I get Urn all the time on that hero, it just makes zero sense to me to delay it until after Blink, when a lot of it's usefulness for that hero comes early game when lanes haven't broken yet.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
I get Urn all the time on that hero, it just makes zero sense to me to delay it until after Blink, when a lot of it's usefulness for that hero comes early game when lanes haven't broken yet. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:23 TheYango wrote: I get Urn all the time on that hero, it just makes zero sense to me to delay it until after Blink, when a lot of it's usefulness for that hero comes early game when lanes haven't broken yet. See for me, when I tried it a few times, it felt pretty negligible if I get it RIGHT AFTER blink dagger. I snag my first kill in the lane as I get Blink and that usually is a good tip off for a fast Urn of Shadows. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:21 idonthinksobro wrote: i'm really scared that ursa is OP now. Honestly, its not that big of a deal. The earlier lifesteal is nice (makes jungle smooth actually, but hes still bad at it anyways), but it really only affects lategame ursa, and lategame ursa was dependent on snowballing as it were anyways. Definitely stronger, but not a huge deal. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:22 Torte de Lini wrote: die servers dieeee I'm really anxious to see KOTL in pubs now :D A kotl getting 8k gold is not something that should happen in a normal game and if he rushes aghs first he is just very squishy and has no good escape. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:25 idonthinksobro wrote: A kotl getting 8k gold is not something that should happen in a normal game and if he rushes aghs first he is just very squishy and has no good escape. Wat KotL is a farming machine tho | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:25 TheYango wrote: If your first kill has to wait till after your Blink, you're doing it wrong. true, but sometimes it just doens't happen. If I am snagging kills before I get blink; doesn't that further the point that I have a window to get both Blink & Urn? | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:25 Comeh wrote: Honestly, its not that big of a deal. The earlier lifesteal is nice (makes jungle smooth actually, but hes still bad at it anyways), but it really only affects lategame ursa, and lategame ursa was dependent on snowballing as it were anyways. Definitely stronger, but not a huge deal. the only problem ursa has is staying close to his opponents. He now can get mom or skadi in addition to the blink and it is literally impossible to get away from him. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:26 Torte de Lini wrote: true, but sometimes it just doens't happen. If I am snagging kills before I get blink; doesn't that further the point that I have a window to get both Blink & Urn? Urn works out best in those scrappy games where you don't get to just farm Blink but are constantly fighting, so you grab the Urn to keep you and your team in fighting shape longer while also boosting your combat effectiveness with the extra nuke and strength boost. If you just get to farm a Blink, you get the Blink and then go for a bigger item, because the game's probably no longer in the stage where you have those small scrappy fights where Urn excels. At that point you want a bigger item that is more suitable for the larger fights you're likely to have at that stage of the game. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:26 idonthinksobro wrote: the only problem ursa has is staying close to his opponents. He now can get mom or skadi in addition to the blink and it is literally impossible to get away from him. I mean he could have got SnY or Atos or Purge stick before for the same move speed and slow. Ursa's simply not OP now lol. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:26 idonthinksobro wrote: the only problem ursa has is staying close to his opponents. He now can get mom or skadi in addition to the blink and it is literally impossible to get away from him. He can get MoM and Skadi actually. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
at lv11 you can taunt twice and dunk twice with no items, 3~4 times with a stick i can't imagine needing more than that one point in hunger is nice to chase people down when you gank (or in lane) but hunger max really mediocre compared to spin>taunt>stats | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On April 26 2014 11:37 FinestHour wrote: brace yourselves out with tb in with huskar lich ursa everywhere every game | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 30 2014 06:28 TheYango wrote: Urn works out best in those scrappy games where you don't get to just farm Blink but are constantly fighting, so you grab the Urn to keep you and your team in fighting shape longer while also boosting your combat effectiveness with the extra nuke and strength boost. If you just get to farm a Blink, you get the Blink and then go for a bigger item, because the game's probably no longer in the stage where you have those small scrappy fights where Urn excels. At that point you want a bigger item that is more suitable for the larger fights you're likely to have at that stage of the game. I mean with Blink Dagger, you can go on a crazy killing spree. But we still suffer from the manna issue. What can you get that is relatively cheap; offers some mana regen (and a bonus: it heals!) The strength boost is my personal reassurance; but vit.orb is good. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
TRUST ME DEAD9 UR NOT DUNKING ENOUGH. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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