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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 22 2014 13:01 GMT
#103901
On April 22 2014 21:58 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 20:38 Targe wrote:
I am back

6-1 since Targe's return, it's looking good boys

You will only crash harder

silence, as long as the trees are spawned all will be well
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 22 2014 13:06 GMT
#103902
I believe in Targe!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 22 2014 13:11 GMT
#103903
#targerising
#roadto4k
#willreplaceerasme
#roadtoti4

im feeling good about this boys
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 13:57:36
April 22 2014 13:57 GMT
#103904
On April 22 2014 21:49 Fwizzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 20:25 Talron wrote:
RTZ might have BurNIngs jacket, but I have pic of topless BurNIng. #getonmylevel

post pics or fake


BurNIng your soul.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Was taken from his weibo, so I assume it's pretty certain it must be him, lol.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
April 22 2014 13:59 GMT
#103905
On April 22 2014 16:52 Kuroeeah wrote:
Don't overlook Chuan even if he isn't in a team that's winning, to this day I still think he's one of the best supports/players in the world.

I think highly of RTZ as well though.


ChuaN is also still a better carry/mid than support.
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
April 22 2014 14:03 GMT
#103906
is twitch not working for anybody?
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 14:17:46
April 22 2014 14:12 GMT
#103907
Oracle rumored to be released soon.

Time to only queue CD / CM boys.

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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 22 2014 14:15 GMT
#103908
comeh u ruined my day
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 22 2014 14:20 GMT
#103909
Oracle? Ouch.
His skills look crazy, does anyone who has kept up with Dota1 know how broken he is?
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 14:36:07
April 22 2014 14:21 GMT
#103910
On April 22 2014 23:12 Comeh wrote:
Oracle rumored to be released soon.

Time to only queue CD / CM boys.


That's got to be a joke. Actually, come to think of it, the hero has to be a joke. Even if he only had his ultimate, he would be broken beyond belief.

On April 22 2014 23:20 Unleashing wrote:
Oracle? Ouch.
His skills look crazy, does anyone who has kept up with Dota1 know how broken he is?

Theory is enough. His ultimate means your carry simply cannot die for 7-9 seconds. So the enemy team has a choice: focus your carry through the duration and trade 5 for 1, or guess how much health your carry has and quite possibly let him live, or ignore him and let him deal what is almost certainly going to be MoM-boosted damage. Oh, and your carry is fucking invisible to boot. This is already insane, and the result if Shallow Grave works with it simply doesn't bear thinking of.

Then he has his other three abilities. Six second Heaven's Halberd combined with Shadow Catcher, all of which is single target (by the time you use this, magic damage is probably not going to be your main way of killing people). Alternate Laser or healing spell for half the mana cost and a 3-second cooldown. Decent nuke with a slow and purge that takes away the only drawback of your Laser. So he's pretty much capable of totally protecting your carry in lane, moving around for ganks, and winning teamfights late in a way that makes Dazzle look like an absolutely trash hero.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 14:34:07
April 22 2014 14:29 GMT
#103911
On April 22 2014 23:21 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 23:12 Comeh wrote:
Oracle rumored to be released soon.

Time to only queue CD / CM boys.


That's got to be a joke. Actually, come to think of it, the hero has to be a joke. Even if he only had his ultimate, he would be broken beyond belief.


lmao I looked up his ult after this post, 9 sec duration and 20 sec cd ..? xD
Yeah that looks pretty frustrating.

edit: and prior to 6.79 it only cost 100 instead of 200 mana and had 500 extra range (1500 total). That is insane. What compensates this ult?
Actually he was released in 6.78 so I guess this is just the standard method to get people to play the new hero.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 22 2014 14:34 GMT
#103912
Why haven't these heroes changed much since release in Dota 1? Is it because there's not much of a competitive scene in Dota 1 so balance in a competitive arena has never really been seen?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 14:39:56
April 22 2014 14:38 GMT
#103913
On April 22 2014 23:34 ahswtini wrote:
Why haven't these heroes changed much since release in Dota 1? Is it because there's not much of a competitive scene in Dota 1 so balance in a competitive arena has never really been seen?

Because DOTA2 is Icefrog's day job. DotA Allstars is what he does in his free time. He's too busy figuring out where to go with the next patch to make Oracle and Arc Warden anything but broken little shits.

Back when all he did was Allstars, the totally broken heroes would get fixed pretty quickly. Check out what happened to Elder Titan (then Tauren Chieftain) and Batrider.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
April 22 2014 14:41 GMT
#103914
Radiance sticky napalm was top5 most broken shit
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 22 2014 14:42 GMT
#103915
On April 22 2014 23:41 EmilA wrote:
Radiance sticky napalm was top5 most broken shit

Not 70 base damage on a ranged hero?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
April 22 2014 14:55 GMT
#103916
Can someone explain to me how Fortunes End vs Demonic Purge is fair? Doesn't that skill make Shadow Demon's ulti seem pretty shit? I know it has then slow and goes throught BKB, but ...
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 15:05:08
April 22 2014 14:57 GMT
#103917
On April 22 2014 23:55 Testuser wrote:
Can someone explain to me how Fortunes End vs Demonic Purge is fair? Doesn't that skill make Shadow Demon's ulti seem pretty shit? I know it has then slow and goes throught BKB, but ...

Skills aren't supposed to be fair in a vaccum. The fact you have to channel for quite some time for it to be comparable is also quite a big deal.

Shukuchi is better than almost every single ult.
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 15:18:39
April 22 2014 15:13 GMT
#103918
Temporarily alters the target ally's destiny, delaying all damage, healing and regeneration effects on them until False Promise ends. Ally is granted invisibility while attacking and moving. Removes all negative status effects when applied.
Range: 1000
Duration: 7/8/9
Cooldown:20 secs

WTF IS THIS SHIT ?????
u gotta farm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 22 2014 15:16 GMT
#103919
On April 22 2014 23:55 Testuser wrote:
Can someone explain to me how Fortunes End vs Demonic Purge is fair? Doesn't that skill make Shadow Demon's ulti seem pretty shit? I know it has then slow and goes throught BKB, but ...

Fortune's End has an initial channel and only lasts 0.3s if you don't channel it, while Demonic Purge is straight-up 5s duration.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 15:27:20
April 22 2014 15:27 GMT
#103920
On April 23 2014 00:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 23:55 Testuser wrote:
Can someone explain to me how Fortunes End vs Demonic Purge is fair? Doesn't that skill make Shadow Demon's ulti seem pretty shit? I know it has then slow and goes throught BKB, but ...

Fortune's End has an initial channel and only lasts 0.3s if you don't channel it, while Demonic Purge is straight-up 5s duration.


Negating the buffs is the same right? You mean the slow, I assume.
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