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e: Mali and 2p.com also apparently got banned a while ago. | ||
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Torte de Lini
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On April 10 2014 16:30 cecek wrote: I'm not surprised ongamers got banned. Just look at the pace at which Cyborgmatt was submitting his own articles there: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/search?q=author:cyborgmatt&sort=new&restrict_sr=on&t=all I dunno if he tweeted the link to all those submissions. But if he did, and if a similar thing was happening over at /r/leagueoflegends and /r/starcraft, it was just a matter of time until they got banned. I'm even kind of glad it happened, it was retarded when there was big news and the most upvoted post about it was an ongamers link, instead of the original source. e: Mali and 2p.com also apparently got banned a while ago. 2P got banned as well? | ||
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cecek
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Top comment about the ongamers bannings said so. Also, 92% of ongamers traffic last month came from reddit, damn. source | ||
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But at the same time, Reddit needs to realize that as a content aggregation site, they have to be aware of the fact that people are going to advertise there at the same time Reddit also wants to not just become.. Advertopia However, there's an example i'd like to pull out that makes sense Yelp is a review site for resturants Yelp actually stops resturant owners/managers from posting their own reviews, for obvious reasons Perhaps reddit should take a similar stance with Ongamers and similar sites, you can comment on other threads, but you can't make threads linking to your own stuff, might be a reasonable midway. After all if Ongamers articles don't have the quality to get submitted by a reader rather than an employee, there's a problem | ||
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They counterbalance it by posting other content they find, especially Slasher at /r/Games, but they were pretty aggressive. The ultimate flaw is that because they were so aggressive in posting their own content, no one visited OnGamers at their own volition, but rather only when it was posted everywhere on every subreddit; creates a dependency. I mean, OnGamers articles even stopped showing up on TeamLiquid. | ||
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teapoted
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It would be nearly impossible for reddit to enforce a rule about self-promotion. Although sub-reddits have done this in the past and it is much easier on that level. Most of what reddit bans is likely based purely on the statistics of posting and voting trends. And it doesn't even have to be at a very large scale (like buying upvotes) to be highly effective on reddit. With 15 people you could easily control a major subreddit just by manipulating /new and making sure the first comments on certain threads are favorable(or not). | ||
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cecek
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Out of the 25 submitted links, 19 are to ongamers.net The remaining 6 include: him advertising a website selling his shagbark courier plush, /r/dota2trade raffle advertising the same thing, a youtube video advertising the plush again, official dota2 blog link, a self post to /r/buildapc and an imgur link about a dropped he got ingame. | ||
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teapoted
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But if we're talking about vote manipulation, telling people to upvote or not is a technicality, just posting it is telling people to upvote. Just not as aggressively. If it wasn't, you'd just link to the actual source. | ||
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ReignSupreme.
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On April 10 2014 17:56 cecek wrote: Slasher does post quality stuff all over reddit. Matt's been pretty much only spamming every single Dota 2 related ongamers article to /r/dota2. Take his history: http://www.reddit.com/r/search/search?q=author:cyborgmatt&sort=new&t=all Out of the 25 submitted links, 19 are to ongamers.net The remaining 6 include: him advertising a website selling his shagbark courier plush, /r/dota2trade raffle advertising the same thing, a youtube video advertising the plush again, official dota2 blog link, a self post to /r/buildapc and an imgur link about a dropped he got ingame. 'Reddiquette' says that you are allowed a ratio of 9:1. Anyway, what irks me is that there are a multitude of posts in the current Reddit thread about OnGamers self-linking when Twitch were expanding their European infrastructure, yet Twitch did not have an official post at that time, even in the OG article it states: "Later today Twitch will be announcing their newest infrastructure addition in Paris, France." What exactly were they supposed to link to when they want to break the news? | ||
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Fuxk phone spelling | ||
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