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Fake)Plants
United States373 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On March 30 2014 05:52 govie wrote: If its 2k then sheever cant play with bulldog. Doesn't he just have a smurf for that anyway? | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 29 2014 15:21 Xypski wrote: The reason I dislike the change to 4stacks is that 'just playing unranked' means 'just go play some 15 min stomps', which isn't good dota. Well stop playing in a 4stack you're the worst kind of person if you do | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:09 Shaella wrote: Well stop playing in a 4stack you're the worst kind of person if you do I'm sorry for only having 3 friends who I like to play dota with. I'm scum, I know.. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:20 Excludos wrote: I'm sorry for only having 3 friends who I like to play dota with. I'm scum, I know.. no seriously, 4stacks are really the worst thing. They're either the heaviest shit i've ever had to carry, or assholes who blame shit on the one guy they forced to solo support or solo offlane while they trilane horribly. | ||
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hootsushi
Germany3468 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:21 Shaella wrote: no seriously, 4stacks are really the worst thing. They're either the heaviest shit i've ever had to carry, or assholes who blame shit on the one guy they forced to solo support or solo offlane while they trilane horribly. Or they are actually decent people who can communcate with the other guy, I know it sounds crazy, but sometimes it's actually true. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:29 hootsushi wrote: Or they are actually decent people who can communcate with the other guy, I know it sounds crazy, but sometimes it's actually true. not even once in 1000 games | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
4 is usually the stack where no matter how bad or russian the last person is, you can usually work around it with good teamwork. If you're one less + one more random guy to deal with, it can quickly turn to shit. I also don't have a super bad experience playing with a 4 stack as the solo either. Dunno what mmr you're at. Could make a difference. And like I said, its not as easy as just choosing not to play as 4 most of the time. I'm not going to tell one of my friends at random "hey, you can't play with us because we're, apparently, assholes if we play as 4. Some guy on TL told me so". | ||
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NbSky
Canada1023 Posts
If you spent less time crying/complaining about 4 stacks and actually played properly I'm sure you'll do fine. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:51 NbSky wrote: If you spent less time crying/complaining about 4 stacks and actually played properly I'm sure you'll do fine. this is how i know you've never played with a korean 4stack on USW There is no hope. | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:46 Excludos wrote: 4 is usually the stack where no matter how bad or russian the last person is, you can usually work around it with good teamwork. If you're one less + one more random guy to deal with, it can quickly turn to shit. I also don't have a super bad experience playing with a 4 stack as the solo either. Dunno what mmr you're at. Could make a difference. And like I said, its not as easy as just choosing not to play as 4 most of the time. I'm not going to tell one of my friends at random "hey, you can't play with us because we're, apparently, assholes if we play as 4. Some guy on TL told me so". You can still play as 4, just not ranked games, but then again you bring up mmr so you're that kind of people. Also the fact you bring up bad teammates pretty much illustrates the typical 4 stack mentality that "Hey we're awesome, we're just going to blame every mistake on the guy who's not with us." | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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TheEmulator
28102 Posts
This is a good thing. Valve <3 | ||
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:46 Excludos wrote: no matter how bad or russian the last person is, Thats almost sig worthy. I never meet 4 stacks. Lots of 2's who insist on duo laning together. The game only goes one of two ways, either they carry the shit out of the game and we crush the opposition, or they feed 6 times in the first 5 minutes before AFK'ing in the fountain; Every game I've played recently that one of my team has picked pudge, they've AFK'ed out. I guess they pick him with their friend, try and do some "sick plays" fail, feed and then AFK. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On March 30 2014 09:54 Seiuchi wrote: You can still play as 4, just not ranked games, but then again you bring up mmr so you're that kind of people. Also the fact you bring up bad teammates pretty much illustrates the typical 4 stack mentality that "Hey we're awesome, we're just going to blame every mistake on the guy who's not with us." "The kind of guy who brings up mmr", I didn't even say what direction, or anything of the kind where I assumed I was better than you. I stated mmr could make a difference to how 4 stacks act. I guess the horse Im not getting down from must be very high to being out such a statement? Random teammates are potentially bad whether you play as 4 or solo. I don't see your point here? Again you assume shit without actually understanding what Im writing.. I guess it's just more run to whine than to keep a level headed discussion? The qq thread is thataway if you want to play the insult game rather than have an adult discussion on this topic, which is what the rest of us are trying to do. And yes, I'm perfectly aware of the fact that we can play unranked. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On March 30 2014 11:27 Dubzex wrote: I don't think I have ever played with or against a 4 stack that didn't flame the +1. I just realised as I read this. If you're playing as 4 with the same general mmr, unless playing against 4 or 5 stack as well, there's a good chance the random 5th is going to have lower mmr to try to counteract the potential bonus you get by playing as a stack. Altough I think the game is suppose to just find you better opponents instead, it's not always possi le. So a lot of the time, on top of being left out of the communication, you most likely are worse than the 4 stack you're playing with. Of course, its only a theory. I have nothing to back this up with. Could be simply that 4 friends find it easier to blame a random victim than each other | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
We won, but that was one of the first times I've ever used the mute function in the game. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 30 2014 11:36 Excludos wrote: I just realised as I read this. If you're playing as 4 with the same general mmr, unless playing against 4 or 5 stack as well, there's a good chance the random 5th is going to have lower mmr to try to counteract the potential bonus you get by playing as a stack. Altough I think the game is suppose to just find you better opponents instead, it's not always possi le. So a lot of the time, on top of being left out of the communication, you most likely are worse than the 4 stack you're playing with. Of course, its only a theory. I have nothing to back this up with. Could be simply that 4 friends find it easier to blame a random victim than each other i lose with more 4stacks than with I win. Because we lose every damn lane. I've started to screenshot every game i play with a 4stack that ruins me | ||
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