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rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
March 29 2014 03:39 GMT
#100721
The only problem I have with stacks is that if one tries hard and the other doesn't it often ruins the game for the people not stacking. I mean the same thing can happen in solo q too but it feels more common with stacks.

I don't really care about the MMR differences as long as it's not flat out abuse.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 29 2014 03:42 GMT
#100722
But there's no point in having them be separate modes if there's no difference. So Valve is doing stuff to simultaneously increase the legitimacy of the rankings and differentiate the games. That's good.

People complain all the time about four-stacks being assholes to the fifth guy. And the players in the four-stack complain about how the fifth guy ruins everything. Most of the time people are unhappy with that situation. So they moved that shit out of ranked. Totally fine move. If you want to play as a group of four, go play unranked. I didn't understand the outrage there. And I don't understand it here either.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 03:53:52
March 29 2014 03:53 GMT
#100723
On March 29 2014 12:42 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
But there's no point in having them be separate modes if there's no difference. So Valve is doing stuff to simultaneously increase the legitimacy of the rankings and differentiate the games. That's good.

People complain all the time about four-stacks being assholes to the fifth guy. And the players in the four-stack complain about how the fifth guy ruins everything. Most of the time people are unhappy with that situation. So they moved that shit out of ranked. Totally fine move. If you want to play as a group of four, go play unranked. I didn't understand the outrage there. And I don't understand it here either.


People are always unhappy when any of their options are limited, even if its for a good reason.

I was at the MET in NYC, seeing an installment exhibit on the roof. It was with super cool structure that you could walk through and see the city from all these weird angles and it was awesome. It was made of metal, had super steep stairs and the only allowed 3 people in it at a time. It as also of the roof of the MET, like right on the edge. Anyone who looked at the thing would say "fuck, that thing will kill me if I am not paying attention."

When I exited there was some lady complaining that she wasn't allowed to climb the thing with her glass of wine....and that she had to wait and didn't understand why it could only hold three people at a time.

People will bitch about anything, even if its for their own good.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 29 2014 04:40 GMT
#100724
Yep.

People also get confused because it's ranked, and it has a number. If it matters, then most of the measures Valve have taken are pretty common-sense. If it doesn't matter than who the hell cares if you play ranked or unranked. But instead, people only play ranked but ranked doesn't matter so why restrict X and Y things from happening. There's this weird disconnect.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 29 2014 05:52 GMT
#100725
THe worst thing about rankd to me, is that sometimes people will just instapick a lineup and you'll be like "uhm guys, what do we do against this?"

It's not very fun to be against SS, Bristle, DP, Pugna and Chen and jsut get trampled
In the woods, there lurks..
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
March 29 2014 06:09 GMT
#100726
On March 29 2014 14:52 Iplaythings wrote:
THe worst thing about rankd to me, is that sometimes people will just instapick a lineup and you'll be like "uhm guys, what do we do against this?"

It's not very fun to be against SS, Bristle, DP, Pugna and Chen and jsut get trampled

Nyyyyyyyxnyxnyxnyx
Xypski
Profile Joined December 2009
Denmark156 Posts
March 29 2014 06:21 GMT
#100727
The reason I dislike the change to 4stacks is that 'just playing unranked' means 'just go play some 15 min stomps', which isn't good dota.
Horza
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
March 29 2014 06:46 GMT
#100728
On March 29 2014 15:21 Xypski wrote:
The reason I dislike the change to 4stacks is that 'just playing unranked' means 'just go play some 15 min stomps', which isn't good dota.


sounds like ranked to me.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 29 2014 06:52 GMT
#100729
Rofl. I just played a game as Morph where the enemy ShadowFiend got an Eblade before I did and he kept using it on himself and I was one shotting him. Then the Mirana on their team suddenly had an Eblade as well, wtf is going on guys?

They were a 5 stack so maybe trollling? Oh well easiest 850 GPM of my life.
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 29 2014 07:42 GMT
#100730
On March 29 2014 15:09 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 14:52 Iplaythings wrote:
THe worst thing about rankd to me, is that sometimes people will just instapick a lineup and you'll be like "uhm guys, what do we do against this?"

It's not very fun to be against SS, Bristle, DP, Pugna and Chen and jsut get trampled

Nyyyyyyyxnyxnyxnyx


Unless Nyx has a team to back him up, he's going to get crushed by their 5man
ffxiv enjoyer
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 09:01:43
March 29 2014 09:01 GMT
#100731
On March 29 2014 16:42 Stancel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 15:09 RockIronrod wrote:
On March 29 2014 14:52 Iplaythings wrote:
THe worst thing about rankd to me, is that sometimes people will just instapick a lineup and you'll be like "uhm guys, what do we do against this?"

It's not very fun to be against SS, Bristle, DP, Pugna and Chen and jsut get trampled

Nyyyyyyyxnyxnyxnyx


Unless Nyx has a team to back him up, he's going to get crushed by their 5man

Well I mean, if we're assuming the opposing team is competent and has some co-ordination I'm not sure why we'd assume his own team isn't.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 29 2014 09:47 GMT
#100732
wait. so MMR is visible in the final score summary now?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
March 29 2014 09:48 GMT
#100733
yes
u gotta farm
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
March 29 2014 09:51 GMT
#100734
my blink dagger thrall is so legit holy shit
u gotta farm
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
March 29 2014 10:04 GMT
#100735
Does anyone know when achievements are coming to Dota, or if they are coming? I think the 'win 100/200 games' ones are normal, if they keep out the ones that make you grief your own team by buying 100 couriers... its nice.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 29 2014 10:10 GMT
#100736
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/21m9tl/pyrionflaxs_twitch_channel_just_closed_down/cgeu0f1

Pflax is so clueless, jesus christ.
super gg
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
March 29 2014 10:21 GMT
#100737
After the new patch im 5-0 in ranked, probably coincidence but its nice to see getting teammates only about -+100 of your current rank.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 10:26:46
March 29 2014 10:23 GMT
#100738
why is he clueless?
as far as I know anyone that buys a ticket can cast a game,which really means that anyone that can cast a game can stream it as well.Only one that owns shit is valve and teams play on their servers.Organizations don't own jack shit apart from their own stream,cast and what ever footage they produce separate to the actual game.
I don't think he's in the wrong here.

I guess he is a bit clueless but I don't think he is malicious or anything what he did was really wrong
u gotta farm
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 10:31:37
March 29 2014 10:27 GMT
#100739
On March 29 2014 19:23 Ru ba wrote:
why is he clueless?
as far as I know anyone that buys a ticket can cast a game,which really means that anyone that can cast a game can stream it as well.Only one that owns shit is valve and teams play on their servers.Organizations don't own jack shit apart from their own stream,cast and what ever footage they produce separate to the actual game.
I don't think he's in the wrong here.

I guess he is a bit clueless but I don't think he is malicious or anything what he did was really wrong

Well, you're wrong. You can't cast a game if you buy a ticket, you never could. People had their twitch accounts closed for that in the past. Some organizations are fine with that, but if they're not, they have the right to demand exclusivity on casting. He is clueless and he's trying to turn this into some sort of a ridiculous witchhunt where the big guys are abusing the small poor guys, it's just ridiculous. There's just somuch stuff wrong with the post. Comparing it to streaming TI, comparing it to showing superbowl on a tv in his garden (wtf?) and much, much more.
super gg
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 10:30:13
March 29 2014 10:29 GMT
#100740
On March 29 2014 19:10 cecek wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/21m9tl/pyrionflaxs_twitch_channel_just_closed_down/cgeu0f1

Pflax is so clueless, jesus christ.

not really

did you see cyborgmatt's post in the thread?
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