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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#99641
wat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 21:58:01
March 22 2014 21:57 GMT
#99642
Do you guys often having particles invisible in dota?
Stuck.
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
March 22 2014 22:17 GMT
#99643
Sometimes when the packet loss too high.
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
March 22 2014 22:23 GMT
#99644
someone explain to me how to BH

whenever I play the hero I just have minimal impact despite trying to be a ganker
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 22 2014 22:25 GMT
#99645
Track everyone
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
March 22 2014 22:30 GMT
#99646
Once you're level 6, you no longer have a designated lane. Go everywhere you can get kills. Pay attention to where your allied supports are, communicate with them to go to X or just follow them to lanes, encourage ganks. Keep roaming, don't prioritise farming creeps as they should be left to your other cores. Get Drums/BKB/Deso. Track track track.
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EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
March 22 2014 22:32 GMT
#99647
Since I've been gone it seems way more people have gotten to high MMR (as in 5.5-6.5k) - can anyone confirm this? One more ranked game before my old abandonment account gets placed, fucking hope it isn't too high.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 22 2014 22:32 GMT
#99648
dont stay in the offlane after 6 run everywhere
also u can actaully get really good ganks in mid on either sent or scourge pre-6 if you have the eye for it
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 22 2014 22:35 GMT
#99649
On March 23 2014 07:32 EmilA wrote:
Since I've been gone it seems way more people have gotten to high MMR (as in 5.5-6.5k) - can anyone confirm this? One more ranked game before my old abandonment account gets placed, fucking hope it isn't too high.


lots of people just finding new ways to abuse the system wtih queing african and only spanish or something
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
March 22 2014 22:39 GMT
#99650
On March 23 2014 07:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
Once you're level 6, you no longer have a designated lane. Go everywhere you can get kills. Pay attention to where your allied supports are, communicate with them to go to X or just follow them to lanes, encourage ganks. Keep roaming, don't prioritise farming creeps as they should be left to your other cores. Get Drums/BKB/Deso. Track track track.


what if the other team groups as 5 and engages Train Mode? because that's usually what happens (in my 2 games of BH so far)
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
March 22 2014 22:42 GMT
#99651
On March 23 2014 07:35 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 07:32 EmilA wrote:
Since I've been gone it seems way more people have gotten to high MMR (as in 5.5-6.5k) - can anyone confirm this? One more ranked game before my old abandonment account gets placed, fucking hope it isn't too high.


lots of people just finding new ways to abuse the system wtih queing african and only spanish or something


Well gee that sounds fucking great lol.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
March 22 2014 22:45 GMT
#99652
On March 23 2014 07:39 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 07:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
Once you're level 6, you no longer have a designated lane. Go everywhere you can get kills. Pay attention to where your allied supports are, communicate with them to go to X or just follow them to lanes, encourage ganks. Keep roaming, don't prioritise farming creeps as they should be left to your other cores. Get Drums/BKB/Deso. Track track track.


what if the other team groups as 5 and engages Train Mode? because that's usually what happens (in my 2 games of BH so far)


Stay back and track, Remember you are squishy as fuck and besides your sheri toss and track you are kinda useless in the fights. You are AMAZING at chasing though, So if your team is chasing people down track gives a speed boost and your W slows them for a nice amount of time.

Try your hardest to get a quick 11 after making your first ganks at 6 so that track REALLY comes online. Lvl 1 track is good but its lvl 2 track that starts to make a huge difference in fights
No Artosis, you are robin
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 22 2014 22:46 GMT
#99653
On March 23 2014 07:23 hooahah wrote:
someone explain to me how to BH

whenever I play the hero I just have minimal impact despite trying to be a ganker

1. Get levels in lane and try not to feed. If you can, run up to Jinada creeps every so often, so you can farm boots, maybe as much as Phase+Bottle.
2. Even if you don't get all these, once you hit 6 or 7 start lurking around a lane where you can potentially get a track kill. Stay there, invisible, until they get into a good position. Then track+run up and kill. Be prepared to use a lot of help from your team, unless you had a really amazing early game.
3. Keep a TP scroll on you at all times, and never ever show up on their map if you can help it. Go around looking for kills, and make sure to be there at any big engagement. Track gold is huge.
4. Build into bigger items with your Track gold, especially BKB if they decide to 5man. Make certain to prevent them from roaming around on the map as they please. Check their inventories for detection all the time, and try to keep at least one of them Tracked at all times. Scout their jungle if it's safe. Scouting Rosh is a bad idea if they're at all good at the game. Try not to feed and force them to play scared so your team can pull ahead in farm.

I think that covers everything? Also, make sure to check out Shuriken's wonky scaling, and take note of the fact that the second level in Windwalk is really good. Jinada max first is generally a good idea, because it don't cost nothin' in terms of mana.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 22 2014 22:47 GMT
#99654
On March 23 2014 07:32 EmilA wrote:
Since I've been gone it seems way more people have gotten to high MMR (as in 5.5-6.5k) - can anyone confirm this? One more ranked game before my old abandonment account gets placed, fucking hope it isn't too high.

literally everyone who you dont know and is above 6k is an abuser
and a fair share of the 5,5k+ ppl aswell
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
March 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#99655
A replay analysis thread would be helpful here. Might be difficult to get people to do the analysis though.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
March 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#99656
On March 23 2014 07:47 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 07:32 EmilA wrote:
Since I've been gone it seems way more people have gotten to high MMR (as in 5.5-6.5k) - can anyone confirm this? One more ranked game before my old abandonment account gets placed, fucking hope it isn't too high.

literally everyone who you dont know and is above 6k is an abuser
and a fair share of the 5,5k+ ppl aswell

there are good people who are relatively unknown above 6k, like w33
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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
March 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#99657
On March 23 2014 07:46 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 07:23 hooahah wrote:
someone explain to me how to BH

whenever I play the hero I just have minimal impact despite trying to be a ganker

1. Get levels in lane and try not to feed. If you can, run up to Jinada creeps every so often, so you can farm boots, maybe as much as Phase+Bottle.
2. Even if you don't get all these, once you hit 6 or 7 start lurking around a lane where you can potentially get a track kill. Stay there, invisible, until they get into a good position. Then track+run up and kill. Be prepared to use a lot of help from your team, unless you had a really amazing early game.
3. Keep a TP scroll on you at all times, and never ever show up on their map if you can help it. Go around looking for kills, and make sure to be there at any big engagement. Track gold is huge.
4. Build into bigger items with your Track gold, especially BKB if they decide to 5man. Make certain to prevent them from roaming around on the map as they please. Check their inventories for detection all the time, and try to keep at least one of them Tracked at all times. Scout their jungle if it's safe. Scouting Rosh is a bad idea if they're at all good at the game. Try not to feed and force them to play scared so your team can pull ahead in farm.

I think that covers everything? Also, make sure to check out Shuriken's wonky scaling, and take note of the fact that the second level in Windwalk is really good. Jinada max first is generally a good idea, because it don't cost nothin' in terms of mana.


I agree with everything but the Jinada max, this is the last thing I max because really the slow is the best part and that does not change from lvl 1. It is better to get 4 1 4 than anything else IMO
No Artosis, you are robin
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 22:56:34
March 22 2014 22:55 GMT
#99658
On March 23 2014 07:50 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 07:47 teddyoojo wrote:
On March 23 2014 07:32 EmilA wrote:
Since I've been gone it seems way more people have gotten to high MMR (as in 5.5-6.5k) - can anyone confirm this? One more ranked game before my old abandonment account gets placed, fucking hope it isn't too high.

literally everyone who you dont know and is above 6k is an abuser
and a fair share of the 5,5k+ ppl aswell

there are good people who are relatively unknown above 6k, like w33

depends on how well u know the dota scene i guess :D:D
also w33 has over 150 earth spirit games, thats pretty much the definition of mmr abuse
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 22:56:50
March 22 2014 22:55 GMT
#99659
On March 23 2014 07:50 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 07:46 Acritter wrote:
On March 23 2014 07:23 hooahah wrote:
someone explain to me how to BH

whenever I play the hero I just have minimal impact despite trying to be a ganker

1. Get levels in lane and try not to feed. If you can, run up to Jinada creeps every so often, so you can farm boots, maybe as much as Phase+Bottle.
2. Even if you don't get all these, once you hit 6 or 7 start lurking around a lane where you can potentially get a track kill. Stay there, invisible, until they get into a good position. Then track+run up and kill. Be prepared to use a lot of help from your team, unless you had a really amazing early game.
3. Keep a TP scroll on you at all times, and never ever show up on their map if you can help it. Go around looking for kills, and make sure to be there at any big engagement. Track gold is huge.
4. Build into bigger items with your Track gold, especially BKB if they decide to 5man. Make certain to prevent them from roaming around on the map as they please. Check their inventories for detection all the time, and try to keep at least one of them Tracked at all times. Scout their jungle if it's safe. Scouting Rosh is a bad idea if they're at all good at the game. Try not to feed and force them to play scared so your team can pull ahead in farm.

I think that covers everything? Also, make sure to check out Shuriken's wonky scaling, and take note of the fact that the second level in Windwalk is really good. Jinada max first is generally a good idea, because it don't cost nothin' in terms of mana.


I agree with everything but the Jinada max, this is the last thing I max because really the slow is the best part and that does not change from lvl 1. It is better to get 4 1 4 than anything else IMO


The cooldown decreases giving you more slow uptime. That is a pretty dumb reason.

A second point in shadow walk so the duration is longer than the cooldown I can understand, but if you want to talk about more points doing nothing...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
March 22 2014 22:56 GMT
#99660
You don't even need 6 as bh. He's effective lvl 1 with just boots and windwalk. You can mess with their jungle or get early kills mid pretty easily.
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