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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 16 2014 16:05 FinestHour wrote: selective memory is fickle indeed drunk memory is less fickle. wasn't chen-pudge too hilarious to remove? poor china tongfu . | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On March 16 2014 15:33 hfglgg wrote: i am more concerned about lycan to be honest. that hero is just dumb. once he gets a good start he eats heroes and towers alike and you whole base will just disappear in 5 seconds once a teamfight is lost. i honestly can't stand batrider, he seems so gimicky...one trick pony =[ | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On March 16 2014 15:33 hfglgg wrote: i am more concerned about lycan to be honest. that hero is just dumb. once he gets a good start he eats heroes and towers alike and you whole base will just disappear in 5 seconds once a teamfight is lost. honestly a lot of hard carry ad champ heroes do that pretty well lycans just only more obnoxious | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
In my personal opinion, things get really easier when you start running into try hard mmr: people actually counter lycan, phoenix, ember pretty well  | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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rob.au
1087 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On March 16 2014 20:58 Erasme wrote: well when you pick lycan you say 'i can't play on this mmr well enough so i have to pick this hero to even stand a chance' Hey.  | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On March 16 2014 20:58 Erasme wrote: well when you pick lycan you say 'i can't play on this mmr well enough so i have to pick this hero to even stand a chance' Kwark was right. If you want to win its best to pick a hero+strat that doesnt make your game deciding impact dependant of other individuals. GG volvo | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On March 16 2014 21:21 govie wrote: Kwark was right. If you want to win its best to pick a hero+strat that doesnt make your game deciding impact dependant of other individuals. GG volvo You keep saying this but there are so many things that has proven you wrong but whatever.. I have pretty high winrate with solo queue wisp and if ANY hero is dependant on teammates it would be wisp wouldn't it? Literally never understood the attitude of "Best way to win in a team game is to not play as a team." | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
On March 16 2014 21:27 DrPandaPhD wrote: You keep saying this but there are so many things that has proven you wrong but whatever.. I have pretty high winrate with solo queue wisp and if ANY hero is dependant on teammates it would be wisp wouldn't it? Literally never understood the attitude of "Best way to win in a team game is to not play as a team." I don't know how you can win in solo queue consistently as Wisp, I could see at high MMR it could be alright though. Playing as a team is fine for a 50-60% win rate on average but Lycan can do better than that for a while. If you're 3.5k MMR and want to get to 4.5k it might take you 50 games less playing Lycan than other heroes. There are games where your team is going to mess up and lose a big fight or something like that which makes it so you can no longer win team fights. Or a game comes down to your pub initiation which might mess up and you lose. Lycan just eliminates those games for the most part. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
also whats try hard mmr, theres always people that try hard at any mmr and always people that dont at any mmr | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
But it does allow peoples the cognitive dissonance that allows them to pin victory onto themselves and defeats on said teammates who failed to play essentially down a player for the first half of the game. Lycan is seen to increase MMR simply because people at lower levels can't win 5v4. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
On March 16 2014 21:56 teddyoojo wrote: i bet ur one of those queue dodger wisps also whats try hard mmr, theres always people that try hard at any mmr and always people that dont at any mmr Probably the higher MMR's where people are actually effective at trying hard. | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
On March 16 2014 21:27 DrPandaPhD wrote: Literally never understood the attitude of "Best way to win in a team game is to not play as a team." Handling cooperation is hard. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On March 16 2014 21:56 teddyoojo wrote: i bet ur one of those queue dodger wisps also whats try hard mmr, theres always people that try hard at any mmr and always people that dont at any mmr Gotta get that rating. Sometimes I even wait until 10 minutes after the game start to pick the most optimal hero for the situation. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On March 16 2014 21:27 DrPandaPhD wrote: You keep saying this but there are so many things that has proven you wrong but whatever.. I have pretty high winrate with solo queue wisp and if ANY hero is dependant on teammates it would be wisp wouldn't it? Literally never understood the attitude of "Best way to win in a team game is to not play as a team." I cant recall that i kept saying that, but i do think that being able to jungle or/and splitpush (or other solo qualities) has its advantages in the pubs. You can win a game solo as a splitpusher or a ganker even when your team is feeding and the jungle can give you a certainty of xp and/or (more) farm. Lycan has two of those qualities and can push harder solo then most enemy lineups combined. He has multiple ways to infuence the outcome of the game. Maybe you are in a higher skillbracket or you maybe stack when you play IO? I almost never see a wisp and if i do, that team loses 95% of the time. I play alot of support because i enjoy it, no matter the outcome of the game. But if you want to tryhard in soloqeue, i would not advice playing supportroles in mediocre or low mmr. The communicationlevel, gamesence and skilllevel of most players is so low, that it spoils most ways for a support to have a game deciding impact. Ofcourse in a higher skilled game this could be reversed, but in mediocre and low mmr ranges this certainly isnt the case. | ||
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DarkReign_
1250 Posts
Very surprising since they were in decent condition. | ||
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