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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 01:27:33
December 12 2013 01:21 GMT
#90281
On December 12 2013 10:17 cecek wrote:
do you have to level up the passive a lot if you jungle it?


ya passive first (you will laugh so hard if it worked exactly like in dota1 and you didnt have uber bad luck), and then healing next, 1-2-2-1/1-1-3-1 at lvl6 is probably the 'standard' jungler build (go 0-2-3-1 if you really cant be bothered to get out of the jungle soon), come out with a dagger at around 9mins, ulti and profit+10damage.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 12 2013 01:25 GMT
#90282
I'm gonna try that. LC definitely seems like a hero I like to play. Btw, you don't get 10 damage on level 1 duel anymore, it got nerfed.
super gg
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 12 2013 01:26 GMT
#90283
party gets abandon holy shit RIP Baggage, nobody ever play with him again.
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 12 2013 01:28 GMT
#90284
Is the demon mentioned in Legion's lore a dota hero?

How do you play her btw? Is she a straight carry or an initiator? Can you do something like buff with w, blink into enemy team, nuke with q, then quickly ult?
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 12 2013 01:31 GMT
#90285
wow wtf why the nerf icefrog lol. The hero is like in the niche role of being an extreme snowballer, peak at about mid game and then he just feels so weak in every aspect. I have yet to find a effective farming build for him, that AoE spell is nice but you will have mana problem to spam that. Bfury route is just asking for too much from your team with this hero.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 01:37:01
December 12 2013 01:32 GMT
#90286
On December 12 2013 10:21 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 10:17 cecek wrote:
do you have to level up the passive a lot if you jungle it?


ya passive first (you will laugh so hard if it worked exactly like in dota1 and you didnt have uber bad luck), and then healing next, 1-2-2-1/1-1-3-1 at lvl6 is probably the 'standard' jungler build (go 0-2-3-1 if you really cant be bothered to get out of the jungle soon), come out with a dagger at around 9mins, ulti and profit+10damage.

Honestly there's not much point in taking the nuke early. Her cast animation is not amazingly good, so you're not going to have time to cast both spells on ganks. Most likely you'll just self-cast heal, Blink, Duel. The nuke only really gets good in bigger fights.

On December 12 2013 10:28 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Is the demon mentioned in Legion's lore a dota hero?

How do you play her btw? Is she a straight carry or an initiator? Can you do something like buff with w, blink into enemy team, nuke with q, then quickly ult?

The hero's basically a ganking carry that snowballs off Blink+Ulti getting you free damage, transitioning into teamfight items (usually BKB+AC).

You will gank a lot with Blink+Ulti early-midgame, but you have to use Duel a lot more conservatively in teamfights.
yango pls
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
December 12 2013 01:36 GMT
#90287
- Profile now shows Personal abandons and Party Abandons separately.
- Low Priority algorithm now tracks Personal and Party Abandons separately. A Party Abandon on its own cannot put you into low priority.

rejoice silly stackers
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 01:54:45
December 12 2013 01:36 GMT
#90288
On December 12 2013 10:32 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 10:21 BurningSera wrote:
On December 12 2013 10:17 cecek wrote:
do you have to level up the passive a lot if you jungle it?


ya passive first (you will laugh so hard if it worked exactly like in dota1 and you didnt have uber bad luck), and then healing next, 1-2-2-1/1-1-3-1 at lvl6 is probably the 'standard' jungler build (go 0-2-3-1 if you really cant be bothered to get out of the jungle soon), come out with a dagger at around 9mins, ulti and profit+10damage.

Honestly there's not much point in taking the nuke early. Her cast animation is not amazingly good, so you're not going to have time to cast both spells on ganks. Most likely you'll just self-cast heal, Blink, Duel. The nuke only really gets good in bigger fights.


but but it gives MS bonus almost like a drum charge (in 1v1) D:

ya out of the small amount of games that i played LC i never bother to get that nuke in early. But then the spell is not impressive either when it goes to mid/late game, a very situational spell whether get it maxed asap or not.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 12 2013 01:37 GMT
#90289
On December 12 2013 10:31 BurningSera wrote:
wow wtf why the nerf icefrog lol. The hero is like in the niche role of being an extreme snowballer, peak at about mid game and then he just feels so weak in every aspect. I have yet to find a effective farming build for him, that AoE spell is nice but you will have mana problem to spam that. Bfury route is just asking for too much from your team with this hero.

Farming item for that hero is Lothar's.

On December 12 2013 10:36 BurningSera wrote:
ya out of the small amount of games that i played LC i never bother to get that nuke in early. But then the spell is not impressive either when it goes to mid/late game, a very situational spell.

It's biggest usefulness is actually in farming because it cleans creep waves very nicely.
yango pls
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 12 2013 01:51 GMT
#90290
JUNGLE LEGION WOMANDER
dats racist
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
December 12 2013 02:09 GMT
#90291
Post Holdout strats. Best I've done is wave 6 I think after a few pub tries. It's actually quite hard, you cant really tank things at around 5 - 6, seems like kite fest might be best option.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 12 2013 02:13 GMT
#90292
cyborgmatt stream so hilarious :_D
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 12 2013 02:14 GMT
#90293
why is it that legion commanders recommended starting items are impossible to buy at the start of the game?
tango+salve+stout+3 branches
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 02:15:17
December 12 2013 02:14 GMT
#90294
On December 12 2013 08:36 Shaella wrote:
So how many billions of dollars are those sicknasty swords gonna cost?


Don't know but they look cool.

Valve trying to steal all of my money...I'M ONTO YOU GUYS!


Then again her base model looks pretty badass too so I'm not sure if I'd get them or not.



On December 12 2013 11:14 PassiveAce wrote:
why is it that legion commanders recommended starting items are impossible to buy at the start of the game?
tango+salve+stout+3 branches


At a guess they were using the old costs without thinking when preparing the recommended list.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 12 2013 02:18 GMT
#90295
On December 12 2013 11:09 AndyJay wrote:
Post Holdout strats. Best I've done is wave 6 I think after a few pub tries. It's actually quite hard, you cant really tank things at around 5 - 6, seems like kite fest might be best option.

I got to level 7 on the first try. Then we got wiped almost instantly by small roshans. :D I don't know about strats... Drow seems pretty strong from what I saw.
super gg
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 12 2013 02:20 GMT
#90296
On December 12 2013 11:14 -Celestial- wrote:




Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 11:14 PassiveAce wrote:
why is it that legion commanders recommended starting items are impossible to buy at the start of the game?
tango+salve+stout+3 branches


At a guess they were using the old costs without thinking when preparing the recommended list.

its more like new random gold money o_O
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
December 12 2013 02:44 GMT
#90297
Just got to level 11. 2 boss pudges that hook. Team was LC, Mag, Drow, Sven and Jugg. Magnus and Sven seem very strong. I was drow and was just coming online around lvl 8-9, spells seem way stronger than right clicks until you get items which you can easily lose in the early levels if you don't have spells to clear stuff.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 12 2013 02:47 GMT
#90298
i'm afraid of the cost of the LC arcana, I really like LC
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 12 2013 03:37 GMT
#90299
On December 12 2013 11:18 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 11:09 AndyJay wrote:
Post Holdout strats. Best I've done is wave 6 I think after a few pub tries. It's actually quite hard, you cant really tank things at around 5 - 6, seems like kite fest might be best option.

I got to level 7 on the first try. Then we got wiped almost instantly by small roshans. :D I don't know about strats... Drow seems pretty strong from what I saw.

Come on guys, get your ENFOS skill up.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
December 12 2013 03:56 GMT
#90300
OH FUCK YES IM ALIVE!

My wait for LC is over. You can now welcome me back to dota. Goodbye BF4 & POE
Mew Mew Pew Pew
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