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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
October 23 2013 09:22 GMT
#83581
On October 23 2013 14:46 ViZe wrote:Valve was trying to add fart noises for every ability.


You know what? I would like to see that.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 09:46:50
October 23 2013 09:39 GMT
#83582
that one le thread on le reddits is pretty humongous about bringing back old game ready sound
not bad at all

also 6.79 winrates are pretty funny, death prophet at number 1 them ghosts
lich 2nd as expected
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 23 2013 09:52 GMT
#83583
On October 23 2013 18:39 FinestHour wrote:
that one le thread on le reddits is pretty humongous about bringing back old game ready sound
not bad at all

also 6.79 winrates are pretty funny, death prophet at number 1 them ghosts
lich 2nd as expected


Clinkz 44.98%
Broodmother 43.36%

Seriously, pubs?!?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
October 23 2013 09:53 GMT
#83584
On October 23 2013 18:39 FinestHour wrote:
that one le thread on le reddits is pretty humongous about bringing back old game ready sound
not bad at all


its annoying so i'm all for it.

i already have a long and annoying alarm clock. i don't need one for Dota.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 23 2013 10:13 GMT
#83585
dagon eblade brood is so fucking real guys
Cackle™
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
October 23 2013 10:30 GMT
#83586
On October 23 2013 05:35 Plansix wrote:
Not every hero can be a heavy metal guitar solo. Some Heroes are smooth jazz and that's ok.


Life motto.
textbookcovers.tumblr.com
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#83587
On October 23 2013 15:13 Kuroeeah wrote:
The old bong made me pumped, the choir like "BOOOOONNGGG!!-BA-THA-THUM-DUM" made me know that i was called upon for fierce manly battle of DotA. The adrenaline from the call is something akin to the horns that would blow to signify that blood will be shed upon the fields of battle. A true warrior delights in the sounds of combat.

This..this new low bit sounding drum is like something a middle school band class would have came up with. Very unmanly.


1.Piss off people with this stupid new sound
2.release hat for ready sound

Valve is genius. or should i email them already.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#83588
On October 23 2013 10:03 Aceace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 09:13 Mataza wrote:
I miss the old times when I was awful but my opponents even worse.
Brood with lvl 4 Bite and Insatiable Hunger was beast when people panicked and didn't cast any spells. It's funny to watch but I don't think I will ever get that low in valves mmr without having a severe head injury first.

Btw, I know how to fix brood for reals this time:
Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net.
Outside of net let her lose speed gradually to normal.


Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net...

"Removing speed cap and giving ms acceleration" will cause 1687687187867 ms.

That's the joke.
If Broodmother could fight, run instantly into her own fountain heal back up and come back to fight she would be viable.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 23 2013 11:57 GMT
#83589
On October 23 2013 18:52 Laserist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 18:39 FinestHour wrote:
that one le thread on le reddits is pretty humongous about bringing back old game ready sound
not bad at all

also 6.79 winrates are pretty funny, death prophet at number 1 them ghosts
lich 2nd as expected


Clinkz 44.98%
Broodmother 43.36%

Seriously, pubs?!?


Considering how damn low Brood was pre-.79 that is a huge improvement.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 23 2013 12:01 GMT
#83590
Fundamentally, the way brood is played hasn't changed, so pubs that don't know how to play with a brood on the team will still fail.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 23 2013 12:39 GMT
#83591
On October 23 2013 20:57 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 18:52 Laserist wrote:
On October 23 2013 18:39 FinestHour wrote:
that one le thread on le reddits is pretty humongous about bringing back old game ready sound
not bad at all

also 6.79 winrates are pretty funny, death prophet at number 1 them ghosts
lich 2nd as expected


Clinkz 44.98%
Broodmother 43.36%

Seriously, pubs?!?


Considering how damn low Brood was pre-.79 that is a huge improvement.


It was around the same wr as far as I recall, maybe a %1.5 increase max.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 12:45:14
October 23 2013 12:44 GMT
#83592
On October 23 2013 20:48 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 10:03 Aceace wrote:
On October 23 2013 09:13 Mataza wrote:
I miss the old times when I was awful but my opponents even worse.
Brood with lvl 4 Bite and Insatiable Hunger was beast when people panicked and didn't cast any spells. It's funny to watch but I don't think I will ever get that low in valves mmr without having a severe head injury first.

Btw, I know how to fix brood for reals this time:
Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net.
Outside of net let her lose speed gradually to normal.


Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net...

"Removing speed cap and giving ms acceleration" will cause 1687687187867 ms.

That's the joke.
If Broodmother could fight, run instantly into her own fountain heal back up and come back to fight she would be viable.



Broodmother is still pretty similar in "Pub"-Play?
If the enemy has disables and vision ---> You die... What good does Cliffwalking do you if you can't reach a Cliff/Forest and your Spiderlings still grant absurd amounts of Money?...


Sure it's a big buff, but she still has the exactly same weaknesses that made her bad for pubplay.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
October 23 2013 12:46 GMT
#83593
About the standard advised items in the shop, I wish Valve would remove that and instead let the players chose from 2 or 3 featured guides at the start of the game.
It would promote the guide's feature, inform and teach beginners how to really build a hero, and mostly prevent Venom from making a shadow blade.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 12:49:42
October 23 2013 12:48 GMT
#83594
On October 23 2013 21:44 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 20:48 Mataza wrote:
On October 23 2013 10:03 Aceace wrote:
On October 23 2013 09:13 Mataza wrote:
I miss the old times when I was awful but my opponents even worse.
Brood with lvl 4 Bite and Insatiable Hunger was beast when people panicked and didn't cast any spells. It's funny to watch but I don't think I will ever get that low in valves mmr without having a severe head injury first.

Btw, I know how to fix brood for reals this time:
Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net.
Outside of net let her lose speed gradually to normal.


Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net...

"Removing speed cap and giving ms acceleration" will cause 1687687187867 ms.

That's the joke.
If Broodmother could fight, run instantly into her own fountain heal back up and come back to fight she would be viable.



Broodmother is still pretty similar in "Pub"-Play?
If the enemy has disables and vision ---> You die... What good does Cliffwalking do you if you can't reach a Cliff/Forest and your Spiderlings still grant absurd amounts of Money?...


Sure it's a big buff, but she still has the exactly same weaknesses that made her bad for pubplay.


That's just not true.
Before she couldn't hide out of reach yet still in exp range, now she can.

You can have a thousand sentries around her web, if she's hiding in e.g. the clump of trees below dire safelane T1, you can't kill her.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 23 2013 13:13 GMT
#83595
On October 23 2013 21:48 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 21:44 Velr wrote:
On October 23 2013 20:48 Mataza wrote:
On October 23 2013 10:03 Aceace wrote:
On October 23 2013 09:13 Mataza wrote:
I miss the old times when I was awful but my opponents even worse.
Brood with lvl 4 Bite and Insatiable Hunger was beast when people panicked and didn't cast any spells. It's funny to watch but I don't think I will ever get that low in valves mmr without having a severe head injury first.

Btw, I know how to fix brood for reals this time:
Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net.
Outside of net let her lose speed gradually to normal.


Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net...

"Removing speed cap and giving ms acceleration" will cause 1687687187867 ms.

That's the joke.
If Broodmother could fight, run instantly into her own fountain heal back up and come back to fight she would be viable.



Broodmother is still pretty similar in "Pub"-Play?
If the enemy has disables and vision ---> You die... What good does Cliffwalking do you if you can't reach a Cliff/Forest and your Spiderlings still grant absurd amounts of Money?...


Sure it's a big buff, but she still has the exactly same weaknesses that made her bad for pubplay.


That's just not true.
Before she couldn't hide out of reach yet still in exp range, now she can.

You can have a thousand sentries around her web, if she's hiding in e.g. the clump of trees below dire safelane T1, you can't kill her.


Then lane a beastmaster/timber v her :D

The new gamesound wouldn't be bad if it just stopped when you hit accept.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10959 Posts
October 23 2013 13:17 GMT
#83596
My entire point was, that if she gets catched she still just dies. Which is her problem.
Yeah, now you can hide and leech exp which is a big buff... But thats not enough to make her really good in pubs...
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
October 23 2013 13:21 GMT
#83597
Eh. I said this the other day and I'll say it again, the perma phase under the web for her AND the spiderlings makes her extremely deadly after 6 vs almost anything that doesn't kill the spiderlings too fast. I can see pubs failing to realize this though.

Also, haven't seen DP yet, forgot she was buffed. Time to try her :D
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 23 2013 13:27 GMT
#83598
On October 23 2013 22:21 Kelberot wrote:
Eh. I said this the other day and I'll say it again, the perma phase under the web for her AND the spiderlings makes her extremely deadly after 6 vs almost anything that doesn't kill the spiderlings too fast. I can see pubs failing to realize this though.

Also, haven't seen DP yet, forgot she was buffed. Time to try her :D


and again, the spiderlings don't have phase.

that being said I doubt any of the people that are saying it doesn't make a difference have ever played brood. let me make this clear. now unless you get the jump on her and have dust you can't kill her. her win rate before was at 40%. a 3% increase is pretty significant because she is in no way a pub friendly hero. before she was literally unplayable, now she's at least able to be picked.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 13:47:26
October 23 2013 13:46 GMT
#83599
The thing about the Brood buff is that it makes it much more annoying to play against, but doesn't make it any better or any more useful in general. I don't see it staying for long.
It must be the most useless and at the same time the most broken buff in Dota history.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
October 23 2013 13:54 GMT
#83600
So, apparently Flipside.Quantic is going to be Sigma.int, but there's no announcements yet... anyone know more?
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