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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 23 2013 02:19 GMT
#83541
"PL" "Almost won"

Nope
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 23 2013 02:21 GMT
#83542
pl is still a disgusting hero
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 23 2013 02:22 GMT
#83543
Vanguard was the standard source of HP/regen for PL before Tranquils were in the game.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 23 2013 02:24 GMT
#83544
do people still buy vanguard on viper?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 23 2013 02:25 GMT
#83545
On October 21 2013 06:42 FinestHour wrote:
tranq boots arent even that old of an item in dota

thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 23 2013 02:30 GMT
#83546
On October 23 2013 11:24 Kuroeeah wrote:
do people still buy vanguard on viper?

Does the default guide still include it?
Yes.
Yes.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 23 2013 02:33 GMT
#83547
The A-Z challenge should force players into following the default core item build for each hero.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 23 2013 02:35 GMT
#83548
The default core is so bad, and even worse with the new patch now.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 02:55:14
October 23 2013 02:54 GMT
#83549
On October 23 2013 11:02 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 10:47 trinxified wrote:
Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy.


It would be broken.


Really? Because 80% isn't enough to make it good, what's another 20%? It might actually make it decent instead of being situational at best.

At least it would be a good item early to mid game.
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
October 23 2013 03:01 GMT
#83550
On October 23 2013 11:12 Kuroeeah wrote:
sylar went tranquils on PL and almost won in a competitive game.....can i use that as an argument that tranquil is still viable? lol


13 secs feels so long to heal up... It feels like you can do more but i dont wanna reset the countdown arghh,,, the speed boost is nice though
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 03:04:42
October 23 2013 03:03 GMT
#83551
On October 23 2013 11:54 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 11:02 Daozzt wrote:
On October 23 2013 10:47 trinxified wrote:
Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy.


It would be broken.


Really? Because 80% isn't enough to make it good, what's another 20%? It might actually make it decent instead of being situational at best.

At least it would be a good item early to mid game.


It blocks 40 dmg 80% of the time

So if you get hit ten times, it blocks 8 of those hits for a total of 320 dmg blocked.

Making it 100% would be 400 dmg blocked...

How does 80 dmg blocked make an item broken, or worth getting....
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 03:04:53
October 23 2013 03:04 GMT
#83552
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 23 2013 03:09 GMT
#83553
On October 23 2013 12:03 tpmraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 11:54 trinxified wrote:
On October 23 2013 11:02 Daozzt wrote:
On October 23 2013 10:47 trinxified wrote:
Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy.


It would be broken.


Really? Because 80% isn't enough to make it good, what's another 20%? It might actually make it decent instead of being situational at best.

At least it would be a good item early to mid game.


It blocks 40 dmg 80% of the time

So if you get hit ten times, it blocks 8 of those hits for a total of 320 dmg blocked.

Making it 100% would be 400 dmg blocked...

How does 80 dmg blocked make an item broken, or worth getting....


It could be the difference between taking 5 damage or 85 damage which would help make a difference, albiet a small one.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 23 2013 03:13 GMT
#83554
That's why I mentioned the block should just be 100%, at least there's a better argument to get the item.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 23 2013 03:23 GMT
#83555
Playing NP as a "support" is satisfying. Easy to do since you get lots of gold. I let my actual supports in the team get core items faster thus a better chance of winning.

After Midas, I get all the wards, Mek, and Necro 3. Usually GG by then at 30 mins or less.
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
October 23 2013 03:33 GMT
#83556
On October 23 2013 12:23 trinxified wrote:
Playing NP as a "support" is satisfying. Easy to do since you get lots of gold. I let my actual supports in the team get core items faster thus a better chance of winning.

After Midas, I get all the wards, Mek, and Necro 3. Usually GG by then at 30 mins or less.


You are an amazing person.
The Turtle Moves
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 23 2013 03:38 GMT
#83557
On October 23 2013 09:14 Shaella wrote:
I'm working on a broodmother thread for the strategy section. Its taking shape. Slowly.

The key is NOT FUCKING SPAMMING MASSIVE ARMIES OF SPIDERLINGS AND THROWING THEM AWAY tho

Like, you don't need to be carrying a massive horde of spiderlings to do your job a lot of time. Plus with the ability to spawn 4 spiderlings now, you can flash an army up in a matter of seconds if you actually need it

The spiders are actually amazing for map vision. If you're diligent with spreading them around the area you're pushing / farming it should be impossible to kill you without some form of invis.

Btw wasn't Broodmother considered a competitive hero before the patch that increased her spider bounty?
Dodge arrows
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 03:41:01
October 23 2013 03:40 GMT
#83558
at one point
brood pre/ti2 was such a fucking nightmare
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 03:54:32
October 23 2013 03:51 GMT
#83559
It's cause you can literally suicide your spiderlings into a tower until it exploded since the gold bounty wasn't significant enough.

Hmm. She was always capable of creating space if she does her job well.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 04:11:19
October 23 2013 04:10 GMT
#83560
On October 23 2013 12:51 Kuroeeah wrote:
It's cause you can literally suicide your spiderlings into a tower until it exploded since the gold bounty wasn't significant enough.

Hmm. She was always capable of creating space if she does her job well.


See that's the thing though. Other than that she's actually better than she was TI2. She's harder to kill, harder to manfight, and she can push even harder, much faster than before.

Funny enough, if you never have the spawned spiderlings attack creeps you don't even care about the gold bounty because the 4 from her ability still only give 11-13 gold (and have 450 health making them a bitch to deal with).
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