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On October 23 2013 08:07 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Now exactly an epiphany, I was just hoping the new web was stupid enough to compensate for it. Maybe if you make her Q a stun or slow or something....
Wouldn't help her that much. It would help her solo killing power (which she doesn't need), but probably wouldn't make her good enough to work in teamfights. Honestly, I don't think there is a way to make her good enough to play in pubs in general without making her too powerful in competitive without changing her beyond recognition. Fundamentally, pubs play wrong around her.
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On October 23 2013 09:03 Alaric wrote:
Random question: as a melee hero, is there anything I'm supposed to do if there's a Viper on the enemy team apart from cowering and asking for ganks? I just die in 4 hits since he bought crystalys and I'm Jugg, so I assume I'm supposed to be super shit early game.
Also is there a way to check the enemy team's items without clicking on their heroes while they're on the screen? Apparently even when I die I can check the combat log and stuff but not their inventory at the time of kill.
If you're farming as a melee you'd probably want a stout shield. Depending on how oppressive the lane is and what your support is, you can try to farm/survive and get levels to a point where you can kill them, or (my preferred option) gets boots, abandon lane into roam somewhere else.
And no.
Also there appropriate thread for these type of questions is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255901
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I miss the old times when I was awful but my opponents even worse.
Brood with lvl 4 Bite and Insatiable Hunger was beast when people panicked and didn't cast any spells. It's funny to watch but I don't think I will ever get that low in valves mmr without having a severe head injury first.
Btw, I know how to fix brood for reals this time:
Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net.
Outside of net let her lose speed gradually to normal.
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I'm working on a broodmother thread for the strategy section. Its taking shape. Slowly.
The key is NOT FUCKING SPAMMING MASSIVE ARMIES OF SPIDERLINGS AND THROWING THEM AWAY tho
Like, you don't need to be carrying a massive horde of spiderlings to do your job a lot of time. Plus with the ability to spawn 4 spiderlings now, you can flash an army up in a matter of seconds if you actually need it
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On October 23 2013 09:14 Shaella wrote:
The key is NOT FUCKING SPAMMING MASSIVE ARMIES OF SPIDERLINGS AND THROWING THEM AWAY
But how will the enemy team ever get farm if you don't donate spiders?
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On October 23 2013 09:03 Alaric wrote:
Random question: as a melee hero, is there anything I'm supposed to do if there's a Viper on the enemy team apart from cowering and asking for ganks? I just die in 4 hits since he bought crystalys and I'm Jugg, so I assume I'm supposed to be super shit early game.
Also is there a way to check the enemy team's items without clicking on their heroes while they're on the screen? Apparently even when I die I can check the combat log and stuff but not their inventory at the time of kill.
viper stomps most melee heroes in solo vs solo lanes especially now with the poison orb buff, theres not too much you can do, if you're jugg its possible to get ganks off on viper, but keep in mind they have to be good ganks otherwise they may be fruitless because of vipers ability to slow you down in spin. other tips is to level up ward to make sure you dont die and see if you can stack camps to kill with spin. if he catches you alone when you're unable to use any spells/teleport you're likely dead without jukes
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I would consider Viper to easily be one of the best mid heroes because of how the hero can just dominate his lane.
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On October 23 2013 09:13 Mataza wrote:
I miss the old times when I was awful but my opponents even worse.
Brood with lvl 4 Bite and Insatiable Hunger was beast when people panicked and didn't cast any spells. It's funny to watch but I don't think I will ever get that low in valves mmr without having a severe head injury first.
Btw, I know how to fix brood for reals this time:
Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net.
Outside of net let her lose speed gradually to normal.
Give her 3/4/5/6% ms acceleration per second in her net and remove speed cap while under a net...
"Removing speed cap and giving ms acceleration" will cause 1687687187867 ms.
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Yeah, that's what I figured. Started Radiant bot in a duo lane but went mid because the tower was about to die, Viper slowed me and killed me without a care in the world. Happened once again through the ward and a tower, I figured the spin wouldn't protect me from his slow, so I just told the team I couldn't do anything to him to somebody else would have to stop his pushing.
Then I remembered that aa carries are everything but fun when you're a scrub who farms like one.
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Where do I find people to 1v1?
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he means auto attack carries
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Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy.
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On October 23 2013 10:47 trinxified wrote:
Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy.
Honestly with the 80% it's pretty decent on a few heroes. Especially with the nerf to consumable regen + tranquils.
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On October 23 2013 10:52 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2013 10:47 trinxified wrote:
Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy. Honestly with the 80% it's pretty decent on a few heroes. Especially with the nerf to consumable regen + tranquils.
I played PL earlier... Wasn't sure how to sustain myself, so I thought I could make an argument to get Vanguard.
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On October 23 2013 10:47 trinxified wrote:
Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy.
It would be broken.
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On October 23 2013 11:00 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2013 10:52 Nevuk wrote:On October 23 2013 10:47 trinxified wrote:
Wish Vanguard was just 100% block. Perhaps it would be a legitimate buy. Honestly with the 80% it's pretty decent on a few heroes. Especially with the nerf to consumable regen + tranquils. I played PL earlier... Wasn't sure how to sustain myself, so I thought I could make an argument to get Vanguard.
It's fantastic against PL because his illusions do so much less damage due to the block. As PL not sure, but it's really either a casual ring of health, buying a ton of tangos, or buying tranquils anyways as luna and a few other heroes apparently are doing. (which now illusions spawning with broken tranquils means far less).
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valve was even nice enough to introduce 2 new brood skins in the shop u go valve
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sylar went tranquils on PL and almost won in a competitive game.....can i use that as an argument that tranquil is still viable? lol
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