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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
October 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#83241
On October 21 2013 01:43 trinxified wrote:
So now that tranqs are not so good on carries, are they all going to get casual RoH now?


Or Helm of Iron Will
Logic fails because we are lazy.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 20 2013 21:42 GMT
#83242
tranq boots arent even that old of an item in dota
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 21 2013 00:07 GMT
#83243
neither is abyssal but to be frank i don't really know if i like abyssal. it's sole purpose to me is shutting down bkb users.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 00:17:26
October 21 2013 00:17 GMT
#83244
reliable bkb penetrating hard disable on ur hard carry in a lot of cases where u can kill them in the stun duration is strong as fuck i always get it (naix am etc)
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 21 2013 00:22 GMT
#83245
Also it gives a whopping 100 damage too, which is not to be underestimated.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 21 2013 00:24 GMT
#83246
it also allows for abyssal -> disassemble into rapier after using active -> solo kill -> disassemble rapier
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
October 21 2013 01:02 GMT
#83247
On October 21 2013 09:24 Kupon3ss wrote:
it also allows for abyssal -> disassemble into rapier after using active -> solo kill -> disassemble rapier


That is seriously some next level stuff.
The Turtle Moves
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 01:40:36
October 21 2013 01:34 GMT
#83248
i don't underestimate anything about the item (it's one of the best items in the game lol), i just dislike the concept of the item. like the creation of the item in itself probably stems from finding a way to deal with BKB without resorting to nerfing the item again.

am i wrong?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 21 2013 01:39 GMT
#83249
i assume by 'conceit'
u meant concept
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 01:40:27
October 21 2013 01:40 GMT
#83250
On October 21 2013 10:39 FinestHour wrote:
i assume by 'conceit'
u meant concept

yes lol, my grammar is awful
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 01:56:11
October 21 2013 01:55 GMT
#83251
Do we have a HyperX D2L thread on Tournaments? Or im to
o blind to see it?


Edit: Yea, we have 1 who unificates both regions. Was looking for a Single region one.
Go pro or die trying
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
October 21 2013 03:23 GMT
#83252
On October 21 2013 09:24 Kupon3ss wrote:
it also allows for abyssal -> disassemble into rapier after using active -> solo kill -> disassemble rapier


Icefrog add rapier disassemble option plz.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 04:06:22
October 21 2013 04:02 GMT
#83253
On October 21 2013 09:07 Kuroeeah wrote:
neither is abyssal but to be frank i don't really know if i like abyssal. it's sole purpose to me is shutting down bkb users.

It's more than that. It makes Basher a slot-effective enough buy in many situations where you'd previously want to have a Basher but didn't want to commit to it because having Basher take up an entire slot at 6 items would burn you.

While you might not like the particular active, I think giving Basher an upgrade was the right change to the item to make it buyable in situations where it was otherwise neglected. The problem was that the item is generally most practical for it's users at ~4th major item, but at that point, a 3k gold item taking up a slot is really unwieldy. Having it upgrade to a bigger item later makes it more comfortable to buy in those scenarios.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 21 2013 04:05 GMT
#83254
On October 21 2013 12:23 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 09:24 Kupon3ss wrote:
it also allows for abyssal -> disassemble into rapier after using active -> solo kill -> disassemble rapier


Icefrog add rapier disassemble option plz.


they have it already as long as u do it within 10 seconds
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 21 2013 04:17 GMT
#83255
So I played bat for the first time doing jungling, and I felt so inefficient... I know stacking is key, but I still felt slow. Got Boots, Bottle and Blink at 12 minutes.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
October 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#83256
On October 21 2013 05:55 Weasel- wrote:
EDIT: Wrong thread so I'll just post some other stuff:

Godz mentioned in the WePlay stream that the new patch won't make much of a deal in the metagame. All I could think of was how wrong that was, and that this is easily the biggest patch Dota has ever received (even bigger than 6.49 where blink dagger was disabled on hero damage). This patch not only has hero changes, but the other changes will completely change the way the game needs to be played.


I don't agree. I think it'll certainly change some, but there will be games that look and feel very similar to what we have now, with defensive trilanes and pulling and such. The 6.49 equivalent is Icefrog removing the jungle completely.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 21 2013 05:24 GMT
#83257
On October 21 2013 13:17 trinxified wrote:
So I played bat for the first time doing jungling, and I felt so inefficient... I know stacking is key, but I still felt slow. Got Boots, Bottle and Blink at 12 minutes.

I've gotten pretty tight at bat jungling - I usually have tranq, bottle and blink at around 9:00~9:30, and then I'll get ganking and smashing afterwards.

I'd say that the most important part is to always stack the big camp, and if you can manage to double stack the big & small at the start of the game, that can help a ton too. If you get bad luck with a ton of trolls or mud cunts, then you just need to continue - it happens and while it slows you down, you'll only be more slowed down if you don't just keep stacking and killin'.

Also, when you've hit 4~5 you can take three camps at once.To be honest, I think it's especially easy in the radiant jungle. You can kill the rightmost three camps, and if you start at ca. ~:00, then you'll be done with them in time to stack the leftmost big camp from the ledge overlooking it (where you could Rubick lift). As dire you can get a good rotation going too, but it isn't as fluid as radiant.

I also don't think you need to hit a special timing. Sure 9 or 10 is better than 12, but you can still do a lot of stuff. The important thing is grabbing the right chances. Get a smoke and just go to town on your enemies.

Anyway, if you want to see some bat games with (I'd say) quite decent jungling, I've got quite a few on my db.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 21 2013 05:29 GMT
#83258
Thanks. Since his damage nerf, might be best to always jungle him now...

That lasso range nerf is killer too. But we'll see.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
October 21 2013 06:10 GMT
#83259
Lmao sing and 1437 threw such a clowny game, fed like a billion couriers when they only had one sets of rax down.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 21 2013 06:56 GMT
#83260


this is how pub games should be played. they didnt even talk about the game at all!
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