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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On September 16 2013 05:09 Mataza wrote: Since when does Torte show his nationality? (Yes, I only noticed because he is now apparently the same as me, no I'm not xenophobic) He moved to germany to work at clauf | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On September 16 2013 05:11 Kuroeeah wrote: dark seer, NP and bounty hunter are considered to be the best offlaners. I personally think that Batrider is laned off lane if the drafter predicts a solo safe lane. Batrider can still be zoned out even with firefly. Id take timber or weaver over BH. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
Not played that much anymore, is she? | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
Personally I think the "best" off laner would either be a toss up between DS or NP but honestly my only example of NP comes from bulldog. I think BH is still better over the mentioned off laners because if you play him right, you can be completely obnoxious (again i'm taking the admiral bulldog example) by being able to reliably block camps with your prolonged invis more so than a weaver could (Clock blocking camps with rockets is not reliable). I think a team with a decent kill potential can zone actually zone a Timber from xp range and even after a Clock cogs his creep wave, the creep equilibrium will be pushed towards the defender's tower given they pulled. In timber's case, the relatively short range on a low level timber chain can kill him. In weaver's case, what exactly does he do better than a Bounty Hunter as an off laner? I don't think a weaver can last against a good defensive tri that knows what they're doing honestly. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On September 16 2013 05:37 FliedLice wrote: What about Windrunner? Not played that much anymore, is she? Not really no. | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On September 16 2013 05:42 zezamer wrote: Lone druid not mentioned? 300 bounty on his bear removes him from being a top tier off laner imo. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
On September 16 2013 05:39 Kuroeeah wrote: I can see your point about Timber, Weaver and Clockwerk. Personally I think the "best" off laner would either be a toss up between DS or NP but honestly my only example of NP comes from bulldog. I think BH is still better over the mentioned off laners because if you play him right, you can be completely obnoxious (again i'm taking the admiral bulldog example) by being able to reliably block camps with your prolonged invis more so than a weaver could (Clock blocking camps with rockets is not reliable). I think a team with a decent kill potential can zone actually zone a Timber from xp range and even after a Clock cogs his creep wave, the creep equilibrium will be pushed towards the defender's tower given they pulled. In timber's case, the relatively short range on a low level timber chain can kill him. In weaver's case, what exactly does he do better than a Bounty Hunter as an off laner? I don't think a weaver can last against a good defensive tri that knows what they're doing honestly. Clock Rocket blocking camps is not as hard as people make it to be. I mean yeah it's much harder than cog blocking (which is one button), but all you need to know about Rocket Blocking is the relative timing from where you are. However, Rocket Blocking shouldn't be done at lvl 1, should be done at lvl 2 (which isn't bad if you cog block efficiently) | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
 http://i.imgur.com/xtZBj9m.jpg | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On September 16 2013 05:44 Kuroeeah wrote: 300 bounty on his bear removes him from being a top tier off laner imo. Bro, do you even Bulldog? | ||
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GtC
United States546 Posts
On September 16 2013 06:10 MrHoon wrote: Clock Rocket blocking camps is not as hard as people make it to be. I mean yeah it's much harder than cog blocking (which is one button), but all you need to know about Rocket Blocking is the relative timing from where you are. However, Rocket Blocking shouldn't be done at lvl 1, should be done at lvl 2 (which isn't bad if you cog block efficiently) Why shouldn't it be? | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
No one Bulldog but Bulldog | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
Because you want to skill cog at level 1. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
Because you will get zero xp despite blocking their pullcamp if you start with rocket. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On September 16 2013 07:47 r.Evo wrote: Because you will get zero xp despite blocking their pullcamp if you start with rocket. not entirely true. Depends on your initial body block skill, you could let the range creep run ahead which gona result the lane to push to your side and grant you level 2. Thats not even counting the fact that there is a chance of the hard carry pushing the lane out with the intention of letting his support pull when they went safeguard and didnt see ward contest. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On September 16 2013 08:21 NB wrote: idra is streaming dota2 to 3000 people :O while LCS worldfinal is going on :D. Keeping dota number stronk \o/ it's actually fun watching idra having fun playing DotA, if that makes sense. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 16 2013 08:22 Kuroeeah wrote: it's actually fun watching idra having fun playing DotA, if that makes sense. I haven't seen that man smile playing a video game since sc2 started. | ||
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
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