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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
September 13 2013 08:39 GMT
#77501
On September 13 2013 17:28 FinestHour wrote:
next level jungling legion commanders
coming to pubs near you soon tm valve time

You mean standard jungling legion commander
Mew Mew Pew Pew
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 13 2013 08:40 GMT
#77502
On September 13 2013 17:39 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 17:28 FinestHour wrote:
next level jungling legion commanders
coming to pubs near you soon tm valve time

You mean standard jungling legion commander

He might mean the guys who try to ancient farm from lvl 1 with everyone.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 08:48:55
September 13 2013 08:48 GMT
#77503
Holy shit. I thought that Brew's ulti CD was ridiculously long, but I just went through and looked at some other skills to compare.

Its only 20 seconds shorter than a black hole at level 1, and longer than Warlock's rock and Ravage.

Icefrog buff plx
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
September 13 2013 08:58 GMT
#77504
So here´s something you can do:

-Play with 4 friends with voice communication(skype etc)
-Every single line your hero speaks you have to speak out loud to your friends, the more you can copy the voice acting the better
-wisp is banned
-No other means of communication except pinging are allowed.
AoD
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 09:07:12
September 13 2013 09:01 GMT
#77505
I'm so hoping Icefrog will buff Brewmaster. He is my second favourite hero after the mighty TONY.

+ Show Spoiler +
Tiny .
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 09:13:37
September 13 2013 09:12 GMT
#77506
For the last 15-20 games I've been futilely trying to carry my team by myself, picking mid heroes like SF, slark etc, leading to of course more losses than wins.

Now today I went fuck it and starting picking PL. However it seems like the matchmaker has finally decided it's time for me to win because in both games I played today, my team literally won 4v5 without me. The second game I even had to lane safe lane solo against WR + kunkka doing some Zhou-style 1-protect-4 but then suddenly all the other lanes win, mid pudge wins against invoker (wtf LOL), goes like 8-0 in 15 minutes and their alch who was laning safe lane solo against our Slark + Axe got utterly decimated. Valve MMR lmao.

In all seriousness though, I know that Valve has publicly announced that their matchmaking doesn't try to enforce winrates and never looks at your past winrate, but it's games like this that really make you scratch your head and wonder what really goes on in matchmaking.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 13 2013 09:16 GMT
#77507
It is not hard to win lane as Pudge vs Invoker to be honest.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 13 2013 09:16 GMT
#77508
On September 13 2013 17:48 Two_DoWn wrote:
Holy shit. I thought that Brew's ulti CD was ridiculously long, but I just went through and looked at some other skills to compare.

Its only 20 seconds shorter than a black hole at level 1, and longer than Warlock's rock and Ravage.

Icefrog buff plx


Yeah I think it's odd that the Brew ult cd is so damn long, especially since it gets weaker and weaker as the game goes on. Why does brew ult have 140s CD at level 16 when a mag RP has 100s?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 09:50:48
September 13 2013 09:20 GMT
#77509
On September 13 2013 18:12 writer22816 wrote:
For the last 15-20 games I've been futilely trying to carry my team by myself, picking mid heroes like SF, slark etc, leading to of course more losses than wins.

Now today I went fuck it and starting picking PL. However it seems like the matchmaker has finally decided it's time for me to win because in both games I played today, my team literally won 4v5 without me. The second game I even had to lane safe lane solo against WR + kunkka doing some Zhou-style 1-protect-4 but then suddenly all the other lanes win, mid pudge wins against invoker (wtf LOL), goes like 8-0 in 15 minutes and their alch who was laning safe lane solo against our Slark + Axe got utterly decimated. Valve MMR lmao.

In all seriousness though, I know that Valve has publicly announced that their matchmaking doesn't try to enforce winrates and never looks at your past winrate, but it's games like this that really make you scratch your head and wonder what really goes on in matchmaking.



I've seen that SO MUCH. You get a hard carry, go off and farm and then at 40 minutes its "hey guys, I'm farmed now; ready to fig...oh you're taking the throne? I'll go back and open the champagne with this abyssal blade I guess..."


It seems to happen worst of all on Antimage for me. Either I'll go off, farm and my team will throw so hard I can't pull it back or I'll go off, farm and my team will just win without me. In contrast I've been playing a pretty solid Void lately, supercarry style with midas and bfury, and tend to be heavily involved with my team regardless of the farm heavy style. Maybe its just the way different heroes play I don't know...


Edit: Also I agree with 739 above. Winning as Pudge against Invoker isn't exactly a huge surprise. Although having a good Pudge on your team as opposed to the enemy team is a surprise. I thought that was just a myth.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 09:21:24
September 13 2013 09:21 GMT
#77510
On September 13 2013 18:12 writer22816 wrote:
For the last 15-20 games I've been futilely trying to carry my team by myself, picking mid heroes like SF, slark etc, leading to of course more losses than wins.

Now today I went fuck it and starting picking PL. However it seems like the matchmaker has finally decided it's time for me to win because in both games I played today, my team literally won 4v5 without me. The second game I even had to lane safe lane solo against WR + kunkka doing some Zhou-style 1-protect-4 but then suddenly all the other lanes win, mid pudge wins against invoker (wtf LOL), goes like 8-0 in 15 minutes and their alch who was laning safe lane solo against our Slark + Axe got utterly decimated. Valve MMR lmao.

In all seriousness though, I know that Valve has publicly announced that their matchmaking doesn't try to enforce winrates and never looks at your past winrate, but it's games like this that really make you scratch your head and wonder what really goes on in matchmaking.

Dota is a 5v5 game with a lot of variables, so stomps can be deceptive. Even evenly matched pro-teams occasionally have very onesided games.
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
September 13 2013 09:24 GMT
#77511
???

How do you win your lane as Pudge vs Invoker ? Please tell me. There is no way Pudge can survive cold snap harass.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 13 2013 09:29 GMT
#77512
Probably I haven't played vs good Invokers in mid lane as Pudge yet but once You get in a good position he should be dead or harrassed to death. 1 landed hook and rot do the work but I guess it's all level-dependant and based on early game agression.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 09:34:29
September 13 2013 09:33 GMT
#77513
On September 13 2013 18:24 BlitzerSC wrote:
???

How do you win your lane as Pudge vs Invoker ? Please tell me. There is no way Pudge can survive cold snap harass.

You try for a level 2/3 kill. If success, you won that lane. If fail, tough it out till level 6 with bottle crow and try to kill him again. As for gold,i assume you know how to pull the creep line back so that you at least get a couple of last hits.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 09:37:12
September 13 2013 09:35 GMT
#77514
[image loading]

DK !!! (to bad it's cast from replay not live)
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
September 13 2013 09:40 GMT
#77515
On September 13 2013 18:33 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 18:24 BlitzerSC wrote:
???

How do you win your lane as Pudge vs Invoker ? Please tell me. There is no way Pudge can survive cold snap harass.

You try for a level 2/3 kill. If success, you won that lane. If fail, tough it out till level 6 with bottle crow and try to kill him again. As for gold,i assume you know how to pull the creep line back so that you at least get a couple of last hits.


In my experience, Invoker will win a manfight from level 4 onwards, even if he is hooked. He needs to cast both cold snap and sunstrike. Especially if Invoker has creep advantage.

From level 7 Pudge goes back to winning if he uses both his spells.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 13 2013 09:48 GMT
#77516
On September 13 2013 17:26 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 17:05 Shaella wrote:
i think i should write a broodmother guide

like, she's never going to have a high Wr right now, but her biggest weakness is that spiderlings give way too much away. Like the best way to play her a lot of the time is don't spawn the spiderlings up unless you're going for a push, cause they're great for soaking damage

I think it was Socksha on Sing's stream where he didnt even get spiderlings, just web and the passive.

It sucked shit.

I played with one just now. Solo mid Broodmother without spiderlings! Still dominated Puck tho.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
tapes
Profile Joined January 2013
487 Posts
September 13 2013 09:49 GMT
#77517
On September 13 2013 17:58 Altsa wrote:
So here´s something you can do:

-Play with 4 friends with voice communication(skype etc)
-Every single line your hero speaks you have to speak out loud to your friends, the more you can copy the voice acting the better
-wisp is banned
-No other means of communication except pinging are allowed.

I already do this every time I play with my friends. I'm sure that my friends are tired of hearing "your queen moves" and "no pain no gain" every time they play with me.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
September 13 2013 09:53 GMT
#77518
On September 13 2013 18:49 tapes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 17:58 Altsa wrote:
So here´s something you can do:

-Play with 4 friends with voice communication(skype etc)
-Every single line your hero speaks you have to speak out loud to your friends, the more you can copy the voice acting the better
-wisp is banned
-No other means of communication except pinging are allowed.

I already do this every time I play with my friends. I'm sure that my friends are tired of hearing "your queen moves" and "no pain no gain" every time they play with me.



Personally I started RPing in a few games in the chat with other people.

Quite fun and generally goes down well because of the "wtf" nature of it. X-D
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
September 13 2013 09:54 GMT
#77519
On September 13 2013 18:12 writer22816 wrote:
For the last 15-20 games I've been futilely trying to carry my team by myself, picking mid heroes like SF, slark etc, leading to of course more losses than wins.

Now today I went fuck it and starting picking PL. However it seems like the matchmaker has finally decided it's time for me to win because in both games I played today, my team literally won 4v5 without me. The second game I even had to lane safe lane solo against WR + kunkka doing some Zhou-style 1-protect-4 but then suddenly all the other lanes win, mid pudge wins against invoker (wtf LOL), goes like 8-0 in 15 minutes and their alch who was laning safe lane solo against our Slark + Axe got utterly decimated. Valve MMR lmao.

In all seriousness though, I know that Valve has publicly announced that their matchmaking doesn't try to enforce winrates and never looks at your past winrate, but it's games like this that really make you scratch your head and wonder what really goes on in matchmaking.


Yes, the matchmaking is crappy. Basically my game history is made up by win streaks and loss streaks, there's rarely a streak of mixed results.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 13 2013 09:57 GMT
#77520
On September 13 2013 18:24 BlitzerSC wrote:
???

How do you win your lane as Pudge vs Invoker ? Please tell me. There is no way Pudge can survive cold snap harass.


You are a pudge. It doesn't matter if you can't win lane as long as you still have kill potential once you hit 6. Just survive until then. Early levels invoker has terrible base damage so you can out last hit/deny him before he gets levels up to harass you with cold snap. Abuse that and you'll get a quick bottle while delaying his leveling. This should be enough of an edge to let you get to your kill potential. It's all about waiting for that one mistake from him that lets you kill
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