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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
August 12 2013 15:23 GMT
#71341
On August 12 2013 23:47 Comeh wrote:
Ah, the incoming player shuffle 2013 edition.

This should be fun.

Let's come up with a short list of team expected to make changes:
IG (Chuan?)
DK (Burning, likely, and some of the other players)
LGD.int (Probably will disband and head home, or maybe stay together and just play from their respective homes).
MUFC (Honestly, who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if a player or two was changed around).
Zenith (Just wild speculation on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if ice^3 wasn't happy with their performance).
TL (So there were some rumors that if TL didn't do well in TI3, they would have some shuffling of players. Not sure whether or not top 8 will encourage or discourage them).
Dignitas (They really should kick #THEKING)
Virtus.Pro (Russian team)
RS (no idea.)
EG? (Bamboe hasn't really "fit" the team as of late - curious if EG will make a move regarding this. No other team in the US has the same kind of "pull" that EG does).

My speculation based on interviews/player statements:
DK: Burning retires as a player.
Zenith: Ice3 said he was unhappy with their performance in his interview with Slasher, can't say if it's gonna lead to roster changes.
TL: Seems like Victor is definitely considering his options atm, but he also seems intent on letting the current roster play a while longer to see how it works out considering the solid TI3 performance.
RS: They're still a new team, and they did well in the east qualifier, LaNm seems optimistic about their prospects.
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dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 15:27:06
August 12 2013 15:25 GMT
#71342
XBOCT calls some of his teammates "useless idiots". Na`Vi disband. All is Lost. WoT is now an official sport in USA as well.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 12 2013 15:26 GMT
#71343
On August 13 2013 00:25 dfs wrote:
XBOCT calls some of his teammates "useless idiots". Na`Vi disband. All is Lost.


Thought that was a joke?
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 15:27:56
August 12 2013 15:27 GMT
#71344
On August 13 2013 00:26 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 00:25 dfs wrote:
XBOCT calls some of his teammates "useless idiots". Na`Vi disband. All is Lost.


Thought that was a joke?

I am pretty sure he meant that, which doesn't actually say anything, because it's XBOCT.
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FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
August 12 2013 15:28 GMT
#71345
--- Nuked ---
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
August 12 2013 15:38 GMT
#71346
On August 13 2013 00:23 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 23:47 Comeh wrote:
Ah, the incoming player shuffle 2013 edition.

This should be fun.

Let's come up with a short list of team expected to make changes:
IG (Chuan?)
DK (Burning, likely, and some of the other players)
LGD.int (Probably will disband and head home, or maybe stay together and just play from their respective homes).
MUFC (Honestly, who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if a player or two was changed around).
Zenith (Just wild speculation on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if ice^3 wasn't happy with their performance).
TL (So there were some rumors that if TL didn't do well in TI3, they would have some shuffling of players. Not sure whether or not top 8 will encourage or discourage them).
Dignitas (They really should kick #THEKING)
Virtus.Pro (Russian team)
RS (no idea.)
EG? (Bamboe hasn't really "fit" the team as of late - curious if EG will make a move regarding this. No other team in the US has the same kind of "pull" that EG does).

My speculation based on interviews/player statements:
DK: Burning retires as a player.
Zenith: Ice3 said he was unhappy with their performance in his interview with Slasher, can't say if it's gonna lead to roster changes.
TL: Seems like Victor is definitely considering his options atm, but he also seems intent on letting the current roster play a while longer to see how it works out considering the solid TI3 performance.
RS: They're still a new team, and they did well in the east qualifier, LaNm seems optimistic about their prospects.


Chuan did tweet alot of funky tweets a few months ago that he wants to go home and he considered himself a traitor playing in a chinese team, maaaaaybe a return to malaysia? If there would be some kind of super pinoy team with ice^3 mushi and chuan i'd buy an unlimited amount of pennants for that
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 12 2013 15:45 GMT
#71347
On August 13 2013 00:27 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 00:26 Caladbolg wrote:
On August 13 2013 00:25 dfs wrote:
XBOCT calls some of his teammates "useless idiots". Na`Vi disband. All is Lost.


Thought that was a joke?

I am pretty sure he meant that, which doesn't actually say anything, because it's XBOCT.

What makes you say he meant it?

Isn't this just standard Xboct?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 12 2013 15:47 GMT
#71348
On August 13 2013 00:28 FSKi wrote:
Why am I sitting through 30 minutes of queue with no game? I just want to dota like every one else.


From what I understand everyone else is not playing either right now.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 15:49:59
August 12 2013 15:47 GMT
#71349
But iceiceice, Mushi and Chuan are not pinoys lol. Maybe you meant SEA.

Can you imagine Mushi, iceiceice, Chuan and 2 players from Dreamz on the same team ? Holy shit, they would be the biggest drama factory in the world.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 12 2013 15:51 GMT
#71350
On August 13 2013 00:38 Makenshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 00:23 Alur wrote:
On August 12 2013 23:47 Comeh wrote:
Ah, the incoming player shuffle 2013 edition.

This should be fun.

Let's come up with a short list of team expected to make changes:
IG (Chuan?)
DK (Burning, likely, and some of the other players)
LGD.int (Probably will disband and head home, or maybe stay together and just play from their respective homes).
MUFC (Honestly, who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if a player or two was changed around).
Zenith (Just wild speculation on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if ice^3 wasn't happy with their performance).
TL (So there were some rumors that if TL didn't do well in TI3, they would have some shuffling of players. Not sure whether or not top 8 will encourage or discourage them).
Dignitas (They really should kick #THEKING)
Virtus.Pro (Russian team)
RS (no idea.)
EG? (Bamboe hasn't really "fit" the team as of late - curious if EG will make a move regarding this. No other team in the US has the same kind of "pull" that EG does).

My speculation based on interviews/player statements:
DK: Burning retires as a player.
Zenith: Ice3 said he was unhappy with their performance in his interview with Slasher, can't say if it's gonna lead to roster changes.
TL: Seems like Victor is definitely considering his options atm, but he also seems intent on letting the current roster play a while longer to see how it works out considering the solid TI3 performance.
RS: They're still a new team, and they did well in the east qualifier, LaNm seems optimistic about their prospects.


Chuan did tweet alot of funky tweets a few months ago that he wants to go home and he considered himself a traitor playing in a chinese team, maaaaaybe a return to malaysia? If there would be some kind of super pinoy team with ice^3 mushi and chuan i'd buy an unlimited amount of pennants for that

Ye, lets break a top 3 team to bring Chuan back to Malaysia t.t
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 12 2013 15:53 GMT
#71351
On August 13 2013 00:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
But iceiceice, Mushi and Chuan are not pinoys lol. Maybe you meant SEA.

Can you imagine Mushi, iceiceice, Chuan and 2 players from Dreamz on the same team ? Holy shit, they would be the biggest drama factory in the world.

There is no way this team would stay together for more than 2 weeks.

They could, however, put up cameras in their residency and make a bad drama out of it.
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TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 15:57:31
August 12 2013 15:53 GMT
#71352
Is anyone else having ridiculous queue times? I've been waiting for almost 20 minutes now.
EDIT:
>20 minutes.
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
Myrick
Profile Joined March 2013
26 Posts
August 12 2013 15:55 GMT
#71353
MMis busted atm. Not just you.
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Slapshot
Profile Joined January 2012
95 Posts
August 12 2013 15:56 GMT
#71354
Haven't been able to find a match during the last 30 minutes...
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
August 12 2013 15:57 GMT
#71355
On August 12 2013 23:47 Comeh wrote:
Ah, the incoming player shuffle 2013 edition.

This should be fun.

Let's come up with a short list of team expected to make changes:
IG (Chuan?)
DK (Burning, likely, and some of the other players)
LGD.int (Probably will disband and head home, or maybe stay together and just play from their respective homes).
MUFC (Honestly, who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if a player or two was changed around).
Zenith (Just wild speculation on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if ice^3 wasn't happy with their performance).
TL (So there were some rumors that if TL didn't do well in TI3, they would have some shuffling of players. Not sure whether or not top 8 will encourage or discourage them).
Dignitas (They really should kick #THEKING)
Virtus.Pro (Russian team)
RS (no idea.)
EG? (Bamboe hasn't really "fit" the team as of late - curious if EG will make a move regarding this. No other team in the US has the same kind of "pull" that EG does).


Isn't TL the most successful NA team from all 3 TIs? Hopefully they stay together.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 12 2013 15:59 GMT
#71356
On August 13 2013 00:57 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 23:47 Comeh wrote:
Ah, the incoming player shuffle 2013 edition.

This should be fun.

Let's come up with a short list of team expected to make changes:
IG (Chuan?)
DK (Burning, likely, and some of the other players)
LGD.int (Probably will disband and head home, or maybe stay together and just play from their respective homes).
MUFC (Honestly, who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if a player or two was changed around).
Zenith (Just wild speculation on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if ice^3 wasn't happy with their performance).
TL (So there were some rumors that if TL didn't do well in TI3, they would have some shuffling of players. Not sure whether or not top 8 will encourage or discourage them).
Dignitas (They really should kick #THEKING)
Virtus.Pro (Russian team)
RS (no idea.)
EG? (Bamboe hasn't really "fit" the team as of late - curious if EG will make a move regarding this. No other team in the US has the same kind of "pull" that EG does).


Isn't TL the most successful NA team from all 3 TIs? Hopefully they stay together.

You are setting a pretty low comparison there
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 12 2013 16:00 GMT
#71357
mm still down? fuckthat
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
August 12 2013 16:01 GMT
#71358
I predict TL fishing for a replacement for ixmke.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 12 2013 16:02 GMT
#71359
On August 13 2013 01:01 Gentso wrote:
I predict TL fishing for a replacement for ixmke.

one can hope
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 12 2013 16:12 GMT
#71360
On August 12 2013 16:30 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 16:19 Mataza wrote:

Oh I love logical puzzles.
First, try to take the current meta as guidelines, not rules. If TI3 showed anything, even the majority of pro teams can have errors in judgment(Naga being actually highly relevant etc.)

Player B description confuses me. Low mobility snowball heroes? Good at snowballing but bad decision making?
I assume it means he is good at playing from ahead but bad at catching up.


Going by what you said(how I understood it at least):
Generally try this:
Put C on solo mid. He should focus on suppressing the enemy, not on lasthits. (Dendi is actually only average at lasthitting, for example).
Put D on the safelane(duh, you implied he can't be left solo), try jungling him.
Put B on carry.
Put A and D as support/jungle duo.

Keep rotating D through positions so he can learn in broad strokes.

Since according to you no one but A can play a role well I think you're overly critical in the description. Since you don't even bother mentioning support at all I assume they're non secretly awful at it.
Which is to be expected, high level support play is basically all decision making, since you aren't even bound to a lane.
If any other player has interest in playing support seriously, tag them along in a support duo. If all someone does is run next to an experienced support, they should learn decently just by copying.

Also you got almost through the description without saying you're the best. Not that it was particularly hard with A being the only player without weaknesses.
Try to be more humble.
Also try to relax, tryharding can will be stressful for those that let the team down(there will always be a perceived weakest link)


By the D support, you mean E right?

No I'm serious in the description, not so much because I'm a major egomaniac but because everyone else has never been in a competitive environment like Dota. I fully acknowledge that my skill is not very good when faced with a lot of players in High/VH, but say in a 1v1 solo match against any of them, I'd barely get scratched. Simply because they haven't had much experience in actual competitive play. For example, I'd rate myself (compared to most regulars here in GD) an abysmal 4 rating (just like xboct hehe) in most positions except maybe solo mid.

I think when you reach a certain level of experience in Dota, you lose most "weaknesses" and just have specific strengths. Pubstars have exceedingly amazing individual strengths. And pro players have those in spades, in most if not all aspects of the game (thus the difference between pros is altogether differently categorized).

Sorry if I sounded arrogant.

Yeah, I got confused(being short on sleep didn't really help)
Also don't take my criticism too serious, I'm just kidding with you.

Also dat diss by mithhaike. grudgematch?


On August 12 2013 23:47 Comeh wrote:
Ah, the incoming player shuffle 2013 edition.

This should be fun.

Let's come up with a short list of team expected to make changes:
IG (Chuan?)
DK (Burning, likely, and some of the other players)
LGD.int (Probably will disband and head home, or maybe stay together and just play from their respective homes).
MUFC (Honestly, who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if a player or two was changed around).
Zenith (Just wild speculation on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if ice^3 wasn't happy with their performance).
TL (So there were some rumors that if TL didn't do well in TI3, they would have some shuffling of players. Not sure whether or not top 8 will encourage or discourage them).
Dignitas (They really should kick #THEKING)
Virtus.Pro (Russian team)
RS (no idea.)
EG? (Bamboe hasn't really "fit" the team as of late - curious if EG will make a move regarding this. No other team in the US has the same kind of "pull" that EG does).


On the upcoming player shuffle, I think Virtus Pro, Quantic and Mouz sports are probably right behind MUFC in regards to upcoming changes considering their abysmal performance.
Ars-Art and LoH should end up on better teams, maybe with each other. Goblak, Silent, AA, LoH +1 could make an awesome team(we will probably not see it happen).

I personally doubt TL will change roster. They outdid the public expectations by far and Liquid isn't known for being highly pressuring on their players. At least I think that after looking at their SC2 back when I was still interested.

I think Synderen switching to another team over the year is to be expected. So far he has a steady record of being on a new team each TI and getting last place with each.
If he was to join EG they would be guaranteed to at least participate next year.
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