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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
July 26 2013 16:14 GMT
#68441
so to break it down:
they have a history of covering terrible games? :D
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:17:27
July 26 2013 16:15 GMT
#68442
Well you got to remember that most people here are pretty recent to the industry, with a view of the competitive gaming world only in the context of the growth that has happened in the last couple of years, and primarily as spectators only. Not to mention that if you're not a UK based fan CSS/COD fan cadred probably never was supremely relevant to your interests in the first place, no matter how long you've been around...

Anyway you gotta take Richard Lewis with a grain of salt, it's not the first time he incites stale drama to get his name out and then pretends it hurts him deeply and that he is just misunderstood or some shit when he mainly does it to stay relevant. Of course my judgement is also perhaps clouded by my past dealings with 4Kings, which painted him rather underhanded in my eyes.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
July 26 2013 16:15 GMT
#68443
Coming from TF2, I can definitely say he's not worth your time.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:16:50
July 26 2013 16:15 GMT
#68444
On July 27 2013 01:14 hfglgg wrote:
so to break it down:
they have a history of covering terrible games? :D
You're calling cs:s viewed in third person bad? Future of eSports, sir.
Once you Goblak...
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:36:39
July 26 2013 16:17 GMT
#68445
I listened the Richard guy LO3 episode about dota, I have a hard time believing he's a journalist, he talked for 5 minutes without having any point really.
"Hum yeah the sky is blue, but perhaps some days it's more blue, so I don't know, and what about the sun, we can't see it at night right, what do you think about that, perhaps it's bad, on the other hand Riot gets a lot of flack so I don't understand."
Wtf. You feel he wants to criticize but he doesn't know how to (mostly because there is nothing really to criticize), so he just keeps going on saying nothing and also "dota fanboys". It's funny to talk about fanboys when you act like a basic fanboy.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
July 26 2013 16:18 GMT
#68446
On July 27 2013 01:10 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:05 Grettin wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:05 Gosi wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:01 teapoted wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:00 Grettin wrote:
On July 27 2013 00:59 Gosi wrote:
First time I have ever heard of that website.


Holy shit. No offense, but people seem to be really clueless here. :D
If they only follow Dota then it's not all that surprising.

I'm sure there are many esports communities who never go to gg.net for example.

Been following the pro scene of cs, sc and dota since like 2005.


Even more odd that you haven't heard of Cadred.

It was always fragbite.se and HLTV.org that had the biggest community and best coverage. Didn't NA have like gotfrag or whatever it was called too before the scene got fucked by CGS?


Thats true i guess.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
July 26 2013 16:19 GMT
#68447
--- Nuked ---
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
July 26 2013 16:19 GMT
#68448
On July 27 2013 01:15 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:14 hfglgg wrote:
so to break it down:
they have a history of covering terrible games? :D
You're calling cs:s viewed in third person bad? Future of eSports, sir.


for that i should have played more than 0 games of cs:s (or 1.6 for this matter).
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:20:12
July 26 2013 16:19 GMT
#68449
On July 27 2013 01:09 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:07 BlitzerSC wrote:
On July 27 2013 00:59 Excludos wrote:
Who do you guys think is going to be the seemingly broken hero that is going to be amazingly overused by every team in TI3? Who is going to be this years Naga?


Naix.

Oh wait, he is not "seemingly" broken. He IS broken.


Naix is going to be used, but not to the same degree. While he's really powerful, he's been this way (even nerfed a tiny bit) for the last year. Teams have had time to practice properly against him. So he's not going to be this "either we ban naga or we lose" type of deal like IT3 had.

Alchemist.

You lose if you let him free farm / dont aggressive trilane him.

He's very strong in trilane vs trilane situations.

He can be played as support.

He's flexible in how he can be built - even Mek is pretty good on him.

He can instant kill gank solo heroes (in the same vain as a shotgun morph) with just a shadowblade.

He can be played mid relatively effectively in a handful of matchups.

He probably will be banned a lot though, so there's that. He's really underpicked in the West, and Na'Vi pretty much dominated TD4 with this hero.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
July 26 2013 16:26 GMT
#68450
On July 27 2013 00:59 Excludos wrote:
Who do you guys think is going to be the seemingly broken hero that is going to be amazingly overused by every team in TI3? Who is going to be this years Naga?

Naga
Skol
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 26 2013 16:29 GMT
#68451
Wow, that guy is hilarious. I guess he's desperate for attention... It's knid of sad, all things considered.
super gg
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 26 2013 16:31 GMT
#68452
On July 27 2013 01:19 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:09 Excludos wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:07 BlitzerSC wrote:
On July 27 2013 00:59 Excludos wrote:
Who do you guys think is going to be the seemingly broken hero that is going to be amazingly overused by every team in TI3? Who is going to be this years Naga?


Naix.

Oh wait, he is not "seemingly" broken. He IS broken.


Naix is going to be used, but not to the same degree. While he's really powerful, he's been this way (even nerfed a tiny bit) for the last year. Teams have had time to practice properly against him. So he's not going to be this "either we ban naga or we lose" type of deal like IT3 had.

Alchemist.

You lose if you let him free farm / dont aggressive trilane him.

He's very strong in trilane vs trilane situations.

He can be played as support.

He's flexible in how he can be built - even Mek is pretty good on him.

He can instant kill gank solo heroes (in the same vain as a shotgun morph) with just a shadowblade.

He can be played mid relatively effectively in a handful of matchups.

He probably will be banned a lot though, so there's that. He's really underpicked in the West, and Na'Vi pretty much dominated TD4 with this hero.

Yeah Na'VI just first pick hims every game because he reveals absolutely nothing about the line up. It's a strong advantage to have all players of their team being able to play him. It's like saying "check" in poker when the other guys have to place a bet.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
July 26 2013 16:33 GMT
#68453
On July 27 2013 01:19 Dattish wrote:
Don't think any esports "journalists" are journalists.


Thoorin is great, fantastic knowledge of BW, CS and Quake, solid interviewer.

Sadly he moved onto LoL
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
July 26 2013 16:35 GMT
#68454
I watched that Lo3 from 3 months ago...that was weird. He seemed so eager to complain about dota 2/valve, no matter what the subject. When they switched topics to WCG, he actually got giddy, and before that he seemed to argue against himself at times.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:51:57
July 26 2013 16:44 GMT
#68455
Thorin is great, and more importantly has integrity.

Thorin was also on Lo3 soon after that and when he was on and Dota was brought up he admitted that he didn't know the game. He asked questions or posed issues. Didn't talk about things he didn't know or try to bring up something just to argue about it.

And he is, nowadays, pretty much just a LoL guy.
Once you Goblak...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 26 2013 16:48 GMT
#68456
Ok, so where is our TI3 drinking game? We need to get on this and remember we don't want to get blind drunk during the first draft.

First rule: If Meepo is drafted, finish your beer.

Ok, on to the rules that will matter:


Draft:
One drink if:
Wisp is first ban.

Game:
One drink if:
First blood before creeps even touch eachother.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:54:57
July 26 2013 16:50 GMT
#68457
On July 27 2013 01:48 Plansix wrote:
Ok, so where is our TI3 drinking game? We need to get on this and remember we don't want to get blind drunk during the first draft.

First rule: If Meepo is drafted, finish your beer.

Ok, on to the rules that will matter:


Draft:
One drink if:
Wisp is first ban.

Game:
One drink if:
First blood before creeps even touch eachother.

One drink for every Sabre Rattled, every Hammer Dropped, and every Shot Fired.

Finish your drink if RNGESUS shows up. Just a drink for RNGG.

If Merlini Police is mentioned, finish your drink.

If Tobi misses first blood, 2 drinks.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 17:02:32
July 26 2013 16:58 GMT
#68458
On July 27 2013 01:50 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:48 Plansix wrote:
Ok, so where is our TI3 drinking game? We need to get on this and remember we don't want to get blind drunk during the first draft.

First rule: If Meepo is drafted, finish your beer.
Finish your drink if RNGESUS shows up. Just a drink for RNGG.

Ok, on to the rules that will matter:


Draft:
One drink if:
Wisp is first ban.

Game:
One drink if:
First blood before creeps even touch eachother.

One drink for every Sabre Rattled, every Hammer Dropped, and every Shot Fired.

We need more specifics. IF someone has to ask if they need to drink, then its a bad rule.

Draft:
One drink if:
Wisp is first ban.
Every time a team gets away with PL, KotL
Every time a team responds with Earthshaker


Game:
One drink if:
First blood before creeps even touch eachother.
One drink every time disruptor sends back a player that TPs in with Glimpse.
If Tobi misses first blood, 2 drinks
If Merlini Police is mentioned, finish your drink.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 26 2013 17:00 GMT
#68459
On July 27 2013 01:19 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:09 Excludos wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:07 BlitzerSC wrote:
On July 27 2013 00:59 Excludos wrote:
Who do you guys think is going to be the seemingly broken hero that is going to be amazingly overused by every team in TI3? Who is going to be this years Naga?


Naix.

Oh wait, he is not "seemingly" broken. He IS broken.


Naix is going to be used, but not to the same degree. While he's really powerful, he's been this way (even nerfed a tiny bit) for the last year. Teams have had time to practice properly against him. So he's not going to be this "either we ban naga or we lose" type of deal like IT3 had.

Alchemist.

You lose if you let him free farm / dont aggressive trilane him.

He's very strong in trilane vs trilane situations.

He can be played as support.

He's flexible in how he can be built - even Mek is pretty good on him.

He can instant kill gank solo heroes (in the same vain as a shotgun morph) with just a shadowblade.

He can be played mid relatively effectively in a handful of matchups.

He probably will be banned a lot though, so there's that. He's really underpicked in the West, and Na'Vi pretty much dominated TD4 with this hero.

Do i just not have the same interpretation of what Excludos was asking?

When he said "amazingly overused" I assume he meant "strong but not as strong as people actually think she is". Like how Na'Vi took advantage of the fact that pretty much every team over-drafted Naga without properly evaluating how much she was worth.

If we're talking about a hero that was just strong across the board and in the draft every game, that was Lycan, not Naga.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 26 2013 17:01 GMT
#68460
On July 27 2013 01:50 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:48 Plansix wrote:
Ok, so where is our TI3 drinking game? We need to get on this and remember we don't want to get blind drunk during the first draft.

First rule: If Meepo is drafted, finish your beer.

Ok, on to the rules that will matter:


Draft:
One drink if:
Wisp is first ban.

Game:
One drink if:
First blood before creeps even touch eachother.

One drink for every Sabre Rattled, every Hammer Dropped, and every Shot Fired.

Finish your drink if RNGESUS shows up. Just a drink for RNGG.

If Merlini Police is mentioned, finish your drink.

If Tobi misses first blood, 2 drinks.

Tobi says "easiest [...] of his life", one drink
One drink for escaping heroes under 10 hp, ultrakills
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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