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On July 26 2013 01:17 dfs wrote:The information is incorrect. It's wasn't a bar, it was their bootcamp base, he was fighting the VP maskot - polar bear, they were drinking and the bear said that he does not respect Crazy, because he feeds on mid so much, there was a fight... the rest is history.
wut?
That's even worse than before.
Welp,this is just some bs now. Might as well just wait for tomorrow news.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
I would pay good money to watch a proffesional DotA player get in a fight with a dude in a bear mascot suit over an argument regarding the pro player's DotA skill.
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On July 26 2013 01:29 cecek wrote:
I would pay good money to watch a proffesional DotA player get in a fight with a dude in a bear mascot suit over an argument regarding the pro player's DotA skill.
Fuck, they should just open TI3 with that and be done with it. Whoever wins just grabs a bottle of vodka, the mic and shout "Lets fucking do this," and drops the mic. I mean, what else could be better?
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Think I'll wait until something more official confirms it...
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This sounds a little too bizarre but it's russia so I don't know what to think.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jul/25/starcraft-day9-sean-plott?CMP=twt_gu
Think it's really weird to call day9 the biggest star in eSports. Everyone might know who he is. But how many people can day9 pull to a stream? last year Tobi was probably the biggest individual caster draw in any eSport, it might not have seemed like it because the Dota culture was very different and we've never been as circle-jerky about casters as SC2, but if you look at the numbers when he was there and when not. Much bigger difference than if day9 is on a stream and not. Hell, you could say Dendi is a bigger 'star' than day9.
And that's just Dota, I don't know shit about LoL, but I'm sure even mid-tier guys are bigger draws than day9.
It just seems to me his name means more than his actual work, which isn't exactly being watched by all that many considering how big of a star people think he is.
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On July 26 2013 01:36 teapoted wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jul/25/starcraft-day9-sean-plott?CMP=twt_guThink it's really weird to call day9 the biggest star in eSports. Everyone might know who he is. But how many people can day9 pull to a stream? last year Tobi was probably the biggest individual caster draw in any eSport, it might not have seemed like it because the Dota culture was very different and we've never been as circle-jerky about casters as SC2, but if you look at the numbers when he was there and when not. Much bigger difference than if day9 is on a stream and not. Hell, you could say Dendi is a bigger 'star' than day9. And that's just Dota, I don't know shit about LoL, but I'm sure even mid-tier guys are bigger draws than day9.
I think you are underrating Day 9 in a lot of ways. He is the most connections to large companies like Redbull, Blizzard and Google. He does a lot of outreach for the scene to groups like that and running the "after hours gaming league" which pitted large companies against eachother, like Google vs Zynga and so on. He may not pull down the largest stream numbers right now, but he does more behind the scenes stuff that many of the other people in Esports. He is very much an ‘every man” player who is interested in getting everyone playing, rather than focusing on the highest level
If anything, Dota 2 would benefit from Day 9 becoming involved. Not because he would cast, but because he would pull in groups like Google, Microsoft and other companies to throw down and make their own teams. Its not the highest level event, but it bring exposure to people that TI3 wouldn’t reach.
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It rests on your definition of "star" but I would say Day9 fits the bill. As you say, everyone knows him. I would bet that if you were to ask random people if they know anyone or anything about esports Day9 would win by a large margin.
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yeah i have friends who have never played a game of starcraft in their lives who know who day9 is.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:44 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 01:36 teapoted wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jul/25/starcraft-day9-sean-plott?CMP=twt_guThink it's really weird to call day9 the biggest star in eSports. Everyone might know who he is. But how many people can day9 pull to a stream? last year Tobi was probably the biggest individual caster draw in any eSport, it might not have seemed like it because the Dota culture was very different and we've never been as circle-jerky about casters as SC2, but if you look at the numbers when he was there and when not. Much bigger difference than if day9 is on a stream and not. Hell, you could say Dendi is a bigger 'star' than day9. And that's just Dota, I don't know shit about LoL, but I'm sure even mid-tier guys are bigger draws than day9. I think you are underrating Day 9 in a lot of ways. He is the most connections to large companies like Redbull, Blizzard and Google. He does a lot of outreach for the scene to groups like that and running the "after hours gaming league" which pitted large companies against eachother, like Google vs Zynga and so on. He may not pull down the largest stream numbers right now, but he does more behind the scenes stuff that many of the other people in Esports. He is very much an ‘every man” player who is interested in getting everyone playing, rather than focusing on the highest level If anything, Dota 2 would benefit from Day 9 becoming involved. Not because he would cast, but because he would pull in groups like Google, Microsoft and other companies to throw down and make their own teams. Its not the highest level event, but it bring exposure to people that TI3 wouldn’t reach. I'm not underrating Day9. I'm ignoring the methods and looking at results.
He got in and popular early. He has the reputation as 'the biggest star'. He's fairly neutral and non-offensive. That's why he gets articles like that written about him. That's why he gets corporate sponsors. If he would have started today, he wouldn't have the same reputation, because he would have never been the clear cut 'biggest attraction in eSport'. Which he was, quite a long time ago now.
That still doesn't make him what he's portrayed as today. Which to me isn't any different than Husky or TB, who got there with different methods and don't have the exact same job description, but functionally the same.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
There's also something to be said for when Day9 was biggest (relative to the size of the audience), there weren't all that many other popular eSports. That's why a much wider range of people watched Day9. Hell, I did, and I really don't like SC. But I've been an eSports fan for a much longer time than that and there wasn't as much action in other games.
And that's happened before, like more than CS players knew who Heaton was. But it wasn't an age of youtube/streaming stars, so it would have never gotten to that level it is now.
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On July 26 2013 01:36 teapoted wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jul/25/starcraft-day9-sean-plott?CMP=twt_guThink it's really weird to call day9 the biggest star in eSports. Everyone might know who he is. But how many people can day9 pull to a stream? last year Tobi was probably the biggest individual caster draw in any eSport, it might not have seemed like it because the Dota culture was very different and we've never been as circle-jerky about casters as SC2, but if you look at the numbers when he was there and when not. Much bigger difference than if day9 is on a stream and not. Hell, you could say Dendi is a bigger 'star' than day9. And that's just Dota, I don't know shit about LoL, but I'm sure even mid-tier guys are bigger draws than day9. It just seems to me his name means more than his actual work, which isn't exactly being watched by all that many considering how big of a star people think he is.
tobi casts the international, day9 casts himself, big difference
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On July 26 2013 02:04 cilinder007 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 01:36 teapoted wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jul/25/starcraft-day9-sean-plott?CMP=twt_guThink it's really weird to call day9 the biggest star in eSports. Everyone might know who he is. But how many people can day9 pull to a stream? last year Tobi was probably the biggest individual caster draw in any eSport, it might not have seemed like it because the Dota culture was very different and we've never been as circle-jerky about casters as SC2, but if you look at the numbers when he was there and when not. Much bigger difference than if day9 is on a stream and not. Hell, you could say Dendi is a bigger 'star' than day9. And that's just Dota, I don't know shit about LoL, but I'm sure even mid-tier guys are bigger draws than day9. It just seems to me his name means more than his actual work, which isn't exactly being watched by all that many considering how big of a star people think he is. tobi casts the international, day9 casts himself, big difference Although I get your point, the difference has nothing to do with the situation.
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If you look at google trends, you'd be hard pressed to name anyone who is more popular than day9. This isn't a definitive measurement of popularity whatsoever, but it gives a rough idea.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On July 26 2013 02:12 Kishin2 wrote:If you look at google trends, you'd be hard pressed to name anyone who is more popular than day9. This isn't a definitive measurement of popularity whatsoever, but it gives a rough idea. Dendi is higher currently.
And Dendi is hardly active in social media, doing interviews for major newspapers, shit like that. Which is what translates into that graph more than real draw.
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On July 26 2013 02:00 Erasme wrote:
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I think Erasme has won.
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EPT
