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Lixo
Profile Joined May 2011
202 Posts
June 29 2013 11:28 GMT
#64281
Am I the only one getting disconnected every single game without being able to reconnect on EU west ?
And then the game doesn't even apear in my game history ?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 11:49:15
June 29 2013 11:47 GMT
#64282
nvm i'm dumb
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 11:56:42
June 29 2013 11:55 GMT
#64283
back on the od thing

was in a solo q game, lock QoP

other team insta locks an SF which puts me on edge, i always fuck up vs SF cos I know you have to be immaculate in the first two waves in order not to be completely shut down. Sniper gets picked ho hum. Spawn in and the last guy picks OD. I'm sad, really really sad. Preparing to get wrecked mid I go down the lane.

It was sniper mid. Pubs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: I'm really liking the full null plus tango build on qop (i know ur meant to get a flash or smth but i never ask) is it a solid build/what matchups is it best in?
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 29 2013 12:01 GMT
#64284
On June 29 2013 20:55 Klonere wrote:
back on the od thing

was in a solo q game, lock QoP

other team insta locks an SF which puts me on edge, i always fuck up vs SF cos I know you have to be immaculate in the first two waves in order not to be completely shut down. Sniper gets picked ho hum. Spawn in and the last guy picks OD. I'm sad, really really sad. Preparing to get wrecked mid I go down the lane.

It was sniper mid. Pubs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: I'm really liking the full null plus tango build on qop (i know ur meant to get a flash or smth but i never ask) is it a solid build/what matchups is it best in?

qop vs sf is one of the easies matchups in the game, how can you ever lose that, just play super agressive from lvl 1 and soon he can even come close to the creeps, don't let him get free levels and at lvl 6/7 he's a free kill if he stays in lane
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 12:06:16
June 29 2013 12:06 GMT
#64285
i know its a skewed matchup but im really bad
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 12:08:17
June 29 2013 12:07 GMT
#64286
No matchup vs SF is easy, because if you screw up a few lasthits you can suddenly snowball.

Block is insanely important for both players and can decide the matchup alone, if you get a good one off as SF she can't freely harass you and must eat creep hits. You can go even in the case.

If she gets the better block you're kinda screwed, but lvl 3 is your timing where you need to get lotsa souls and just try to dominate during that time.

also, theres too much debating going on and not enough 1vs1
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 29 2013 12:18 GMT
#64287
QoP vs SF is harder then it looks like if you screw up at level 1-3 because if he gets enough souls you can't trade hits with him (and he has superior damage then)and Raze will hit quite hard if he is good with it.

QoP does have the edge though, shadowstrike the guy at level 1.
WriterXiao8~~
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
June 29 2013 12:22 GMT
#64288
Idea for SF to win early is that he has to land razes on you every time you walk forward to shadowstrike him. Apart from that it's a highly skill dependent match up. At low skill levels qop generally is stronger, but at higher levels they can be quite even.
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thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 12:51:53
June 29 2013 12:51 GMT
#64289
On June 29 2013 21:07 Andr3 wrote:
No matchup vs SF is easy, because if you screw up a few lasthits you can suddenly snowball.

Block is insanely important for both players and can decide the matchup alone, if you get a good one off as SF she can't freely harass you and must eat creep hits. You can go even in the case.

If she gets the better block you're kinda screwed, but lvl 3 is your timing where you need to get lotsa souls and just try to dominate during that time.

also, theres too much debating going on and not enough 1vs1



Look at this guy challenging people on 1v1. Every time i challenge him for rare items he runs away with tail between his legs.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 29 2013 12:53 GMT
#64290
On June 29 2013 21:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
Idea for SF to win early is that he has to land razes on you every time you walk forward to shadowstrike him. Apart from that it's a highly skill dependent match up. At low skill levels qop generally is stronger, but at higher levels they can be quite even.

if you get an even block you can zone out the sf to the point you get lvl 2 before he can get any xp and you just nuke and harass him at that point and he cant trade with you untill he gets at least lvl 3, if you try to trade farm as qop you will get owned by his razes and atack dmg
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
June 29 2013 13:13 GMT
#64291
On June 29 2013 21:51 thOr6136 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 21:07 Andr3 wrote:
No matchup vs SF is easy, because if you screw up a few lasthits you can suddenly snowball.

Block is insanely important for both players and can decide the matchup alone, if you get a good one off as SF she can't freely harass you and must eat creep hits. You can go even in the case.

If she gets the better block you're kinda screwed, but lvl 3 is your timing where you need to get lotsa souls and just try to dominate during that time.

also, theres too much debating going on and not enough 1vs1



Look at this guy challenging people on 1v1. Every time i challenge him for rare items he runs away with tail between his legs.

kid think he's good cuz he gets carried every game
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
June 29 2013 13:17 GMT
#64292
Andr3 is right in the essentials though, qop has an advantage yes, but there are so many different factors that can make you lose the lane anyways (or win it).
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
June 29 2013 13:18 GMT
#64293
Yeah, go poison 1st v sf mid and just screw his laning so much.

I mean lvl 1 sf the best he can do is 3 razes lvl 1 and his AA dmg lvl 1 is like negligible.
Or if he goes boot first mid than he evade every poison attempt lvl 1 lol
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 29 2013 13:33 GMT
#64294
if you're playing vs an sf with lvl 1 razes you won the lane because he doesnt know what he's doing
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 29 2013 13:33 GMT
#64295
I have a cheesey qop build somewhere tehehehehe

2-0-2 at lvl4. yup, it is cheesey lol please use it sensibly.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128809152

The fun moments when people didnt expect that especially when they only brought 1 tangos with them, you can possibly forever win the lane after lvl3 (lvl2 dagger). Also if you opened with a null then 1dagger+few hits on him you will take away his salve or almost all of his 1 set of tangos.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 29 2013 13:47 GMT
#64296
On June 29 2013 22:33 cilinder007 wrote:
if you're playing vs an sf with lvl 1 razes you won the lane because he doesnt know what he's doing

lvl 1 raze with bottle first bottle crowing (was) actually quite legit
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 14:09:35
June 29 2013 14:01 GMT
#64297
ehh, nm
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Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
June 29 2013 14:02 GMT
#64298
On June 29 2013 22:47 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 22:33 cilinder007 wrote:
if you're playing vs an sf with lvl 1 razes you won the lane because he doesnt know what he's doing

lvl 1 raze with bottle first bottle crowing (was) actually quite legit


No it wasn't.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 14:11:26
June 29 2013 14:11 GMT
#64299
wrong thread.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 29 2013 14:13 GMT
#64300
Real skillers like me prefer to go aura build on sf. Legit.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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