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Alexc26
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 09:41:51
June 25 2013 09:41 GMT
#63561
Is there anyone in the Dota 2 scene that does what Day 9 does for SC2 with his dailies ? I know Purge does similar videos now and then, ideally looking for someone who does their videos a lot more like Day 9 though, I learnt a lot about Starcraft 2 from his videos, and just would like something similar for Dota.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 09:45:51
June 25 2013 09:42 GMT
#63562
On June 25 2013 16:21 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 16:18 FinestHour wrote:
i like evangelion thats a good anime


bible black?


bahahaha i burst out laugh on that. But seriously though, both are masterpieces and shall be watched as a learning experience by every anime fan *ahem*.


Drum+Forcestaff was my non-freefarming sniper build before the forcestaff nerf, the item is not worthy anymore on carry after nerf. Never try soulring on him but i guess it is pretty fun to get it if you had some insane pushing line up and you are not the #1 carry.


On June 25 2013 18:40 DoNotDisturb wrote:
remember when everyone said treant was useless, icefrog has an unexplainable hardon for it etc etc

oh wait this is TL GD


I seriously believe that Icefrog read our GD rofl.

is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 25 2013 09:53 GMT
#63563
On June 25 2013 18:42 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 16:21 Doraemon wrote:
On June 25 2013 16:18 FinestHour wrote:
i like evangelion thats a good anime


bible black?


bahahaha i burst out laugh on that. But seriously though, both are masterpieces and shall be watched as a learning experience by every anime fan *ahem*.


Drum+Forcestaff was my non-freefarming sniper build before the forcestaff nerf, the item is not worthy anymore on carry after nerf. Never try soulring on him but i guess it is pretty fun to get it if you had some insane pushing line up and you are not the #1 carry.


Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:40 DoNotDisturb wrote:
remember when everyone said treant was useless, icefrog has an unexplainable hardon for it etc etc

oh wait this is TL GD


I seriously believe that Icefrog read our GD rofl.



He saw the tree testicles and was inspired
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 25 2013 09:55 GMT
#63564
*stands up* I am icefrog.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 25 2013 10:15 GMT
#63565
Oh wow, I never considered soul ring on sniper, shit sounds fun as hell if you're maxing shrapnel

I like my phase drums yasha into whatever build though, can't catch me
In the woods, there lurks..
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 25 2013 11:35 GMT
#63566
On June 25 2013 19:15 Iplaythings wrote:
Oh wow, I never considered soul ring on sniper, shit sounds fun as hell if you're maxing shrapnel

I like my phase drums yasha into whatever build though, can't catch me


It's good for the ulti aswell. You can just harass someone out of your lane with it. :p
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
June 25 2013 12:19 GMT
#63567
On June 25 2013 18:41 Alexc26 wrote:
Is there anyone in the Dota 2 scene that does what Day 9 does for SC2 with his dailies ? I know Purge does similar videos now and then, ideally looking for someone who does their videos a lot more like Day 9 though, I learnt a lot about Starcraft 2 from his videos, and just would like something similar for Dota.


The closest to day9 is probably purge, though merlini also does pretty good videos. There's also talk of a guy alan but tbh I don't like him very much. Does a lot of mistakes, complains a lot and just blames everything and everyone but himself for his mistakes.
I recommend watching merlini
http://www.youtube.com/user/MerliniDota
Religion: Buckethead
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
June 25 2013 12:21 GMT
#63568
does a lot of mistakes, complains a lot and just blames everything and everyone but himself for his mistakes.

sounds like merlini
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 25 2013 12:23 GMT
#63569
So.... there is a 3 stack going on right now in the US servers that is spoiling AGOT in all chat, their names use random GOT characters. so um. mute them if you see that.
Alexc26
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom222 Posts
June 25 2013 12:23 GMT
#63570
On June 25 2013 21:19 Incze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:41 Alexc26 wrote:
Is there anyone in the Dota 2 scene that does what Day 9 does for SC2 with his dailies ? I know Purge does similar videos now and then, ideally looking for someone who does their videos a lot more like Day 9 though, I learnt a lot about Starcraft 2 from his videos, and just would like something similar for Dota.


The closest to day9 is probably purge, though merlini also does pretty good videos. There's also talk of a guy alan but tbh I don't like him very much. Does a lot of mistakes, complains a lot and just blames everything and everyone but himself for his mistakes.
I recommend watching merlini
http://www.youtube.com/user/MerliniDota


Thanks, I've watched Merlini's stream a couple of times, although I think he was just doing matches with viewers (each hero had different skills), will be sure to check out his youtube channel.

It would be nice if there was an equivalent of Day 9 for dota, the biggest question I have when watching pro's play, or streams is Why, why did they do this, or get that item, etc, and I'd just like someone to go through and actually explain why someone got or did something and the benefits of it or the problems it caused.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 25 2013 12:28 GMT
#63571
I'd love to just have a show a few times a week and do it, but my knowledge of recording and that stuff is terrible , and while i can teach the basics and about hero roles and such extremely well, I do have some outdated knowledge still despite immense dota 2 time. Also i don't have the inherent respect that day9 had before startinghis dailies, which makes it rough. it'd have to be like Maelk/Fear doing the show after they retired to carry the same amount of respect.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 25 2013 12:35 GMT
#63572
On June 25 2013 21:19 Incze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 18:41 Alexc26 wrote:
Is there anyone in the Dota 2 scene that does what Day 9 does for SC2 with his dailies ? I know Purge does similar videos now and then, ideally looking for someone who does their videos a lot more like Day 9 though, I learnt a lot about Starcraft 2 from his videos, and just would like something similar for Dota.


The closest to day9 is probably purge, though merlini also does pretty good videos. There's also talk of a guy alan but tbh I don't like him very much. Does a lot of mistakes, complains a lot and just blames everything and everyone but himself for his mistakes.
I recommend watching merlini
http://www.youtube.com/user/MerliniDota

Alan dota is OK, but I would always go for Purge and Merlini first... still, it's rare to find decent FP commentary, so Alan is still good to know about. He does indeed whine quite a lot and blame others, but at the same time he's quite good at most heroes and does a decent job explaining how to use them.

Here's his channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHoldDOTA2

I watch most of his videos simply because I've seen all of purges videos already and I need my daily dose of Dota 2 FP commentary.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
June 25 2013 12:37 GMT
#63573
On June 25 2013 21:21 Knightess wrote:
Show nested quote +
does a lot of mistakes, complains a lot and just blames everything and everyone but himself for his mistakes.

sounds like merlini


Are you joking? I've watched a lot of Merlini (mod on his channel aswell) and within public games its very rare that he actually goes out of his way to complain. When a teamfight fails or something he normally just explains what should have happened to change the situation (to the stream, don't think he writes it in team chat or anything).
Alexc26
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 12:39:36
June 25 2013 12:39 GMT
#63574
On June 25 2013 21:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
I'd love to just have a show a few times a week and do it, but my knowledge of recording and that stuff is terrible , and while i can teach the basics and about hero roles and such extremely well, I do have some outdated knowledge still despite immense dota 2 time. Also i don't have the inherent respect that day9 had before startinghis dailies, which makes it rough. it'd have to be like Maelk/Fear doing the show after they retired to carry the same amount of respect.


Yeah, if I had enough game knowledge I would have done it as I feel people would benefit from it, I just have no where near enough knowledge to it.

I wouldn't say you'd need a lot of respect or popularity to do it, I'm sure if someone did it either known or unknown and posted on here or Reddit etc, would get popular, it all depends on the quality of the video and the information they give.

I'll also check out Alan at some point.
negon
Profile Joined February 2012
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 12:45:47
June 25 2013 12:45 GMT
#63575
On June 25 2013 21:23 Alexc26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 21:19 Incze wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:41 Alexc26 wrote:
Is there anyone in the Dota 2 scene that does what Day 9 does for SC2 with his dailies ? I know Purge does similar videos now and then, ideally looking for someone who does their videos a lot more like Day 9 though, I learnt a lot about Starcraft 2 from his videos, and just would like something similar for Dota.


The closest to day9 is probably purge, though merlini also does pretty good videos. There's also talk of a guy alan but tbh I don't like him very much. Does a lot of mistakes, complains a lot and just blames everything and everyone but himself for his mistakes.
I recommend watching merlini
http://www.youtube.com/user/MerliniDota


Thanks, I've watched Merlini's stream a couple of times, although I think he was just doing matches with viewers (each hero had different skills), will be sure to check out his youtube channel.

It would be nice if there was an equivalent of Day 9 for dota, the biggest question I have when watching pro's play, or streams is Why, why did they do this, or get that item, etc, and I'd just like someone to go through and actually explain why someone got or did something and the benefits of it or the problems it caused.

Not to be an ass, but you're being kinda lazy.. the resources are all out there, tons of guides, good streams (pretty much any pro will give insightful commentary every now and then + tournament streams with good casters), quality discussions (here, playdota...) Every single thing about Dota except for the stuff directly related to the latest patch has been explored to death. Just play, watch, read and if you have an actual specific question, then just ask here and people will be happy to help or provide you with some resources.
While I agree it would be nice to have a Day9 for Dota, I don't think there is an actual need for it. Anyway to not be a total downer, there's a couple of vids of a Chinese ex-pro explaining his thought process and stuff when pubbing, I remember them being very useful for me when I was starting out. 3 more eps on the dude's account.
u sixpoll?
Alexc26
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom222 Posts
June 25 2013 12:51 GMT
#63576
On June 25 2013 21:45 negon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 21:23 Alexc26 wrote:
On June 25 2013 21:19 Incze wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:41 Alexc26 wrote:
Is there anyone in the Dota 2 scene that does what Day 9 does for SC2 with his dailies ? I know Purge does similar videos now and then, ideally looking for someone who does their videos a lot more like Day 9 though, I learnt a lot about Starcraft 2 from his videos, and just would like something similar for Dota.


The closest to day9 is probably purge, though merlini also does pretty good videos. There's also talk of a guy alan but tbh I don't like him very much. Does a lot of mistakes, complains a lot and just blames everything and everyone but himself for his mistakes.
I recommend watching merlini
http://www.youtube.com/user/MerliniDota


Thanks, I've watched Merlini's stream a couple of times, although I think he was just doing matches with viewers (each hero had different skills), will be sure to check out his youtube channel.

It would be nice if there was an equivalent of Day 9 for dota, the biggest question I have when watching pro's play, or streams is Why, why did they do this, or get that item, etc, and I'd just like someone to go through and actually explain why someone got or did something and the benefits of it or the problems it caused.

Not to be an ass, but you're being kinda lazy.. the resources are all out there, tons of guides, good streams (pretty much any pro will give insightful commentary every now and then + tournament streams with good casters), quality discussions (here, playdota...) Every single thing about Dota except for the stuff directly related to the latest patch has been explored to death. Just play, watch, read and if you have an actual specific question, then just ask here and people will be happy to help or provide you with some resources.
While I agree it would be nice to have a Day9 for Dota, I don't think there is an actual need for it. Anyway to not be a total downer, there's a couple of vids of a Chinese ex-pro explaining his thought process and stuff when pubbing, I remember them being very useful for me when I was starting out. 3 more eps on the dude's account.


I know there are some out there such as Purge as I mentioned, but using him as an example he doesn't always explain why he got one item instead of another, some videos will do it, but from what I've watched, not a lot of them.

The pro streams I've watched as well they don't tend to speak, if they do it's not to explain what they are doing/why they are doing it.

I have watched some tournament games where the casters will explain things throughout the game, which is great, but it does depend on the caster as there are a few that don't.

I'll also check out the video you posted, cheers by the way to everyone for the information.
negon
Profile Joined February 2012
212 Posts
June 25 2013 13:00 GMT
#63577
Just don't forget that a huge part of understanding comes from own experience, so don't just watch videos but play, play, play.
u sixpoll?
Alexc26
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom222 Posts
June 25 2013 13:01 GMT
#63578
On June 25 2013 22:00 negon wrote:
Just don't forget that a huge part of understanding comes from own experience, so don't just watch videos but play, play, play.


Indeed, although easier said than done due to work, I try to play when I can though.
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
June 25 2013 13:14 GMT
#63579
There were also a few amazing videos of 2009 teaching dota, translated into english. Some of the stuff was quite advanced but I can't remember where the videos were.
Also an old video of dendi's where he taught mid like a boss. I think it was about 2 hours long or so
Religion: Buckethead
negon
Profile Joined February 2012
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 13:15:16
June 25 2013 13:14 GMT
#63580
I feel you, still remember when I started playing, the first few months it all just felt so damn overwhelming. But it indeed is an incredibly enjoyable journey and it keeps getting better and better.
GLHF to you.
@Incze: The vids are on the channel I linked earlier. Definitely worth watching too, it's just that for a lot of new players the fact they're from the "old" Dota will be a problem.
u sixpoll?
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