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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 22 2013 09:08 GMT
#62981
And my explanation for the high lol viewer numbers during downtime is that they use youtube.
If the streams goes down, the Youtube Vod gets the same viewer numbers as the streams, and as the VoD is avaiable under the same URL, the script that created this graph counts the viewers of the vod.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
June 22 2013 09:30 GMT
#62982
Is SD shadow poision supposed to trigger corrsive skin of viper?
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
June 22 2013 09:31 GMT
#62983
I'm pretty sure it should, especially after the buff everything triggers corrosive skin of viper.
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
June 22 2013 09:32 GMT
#62984
Oh, I must have skipped that, when reading the changelog. Well, that explains everything.
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
June 22 2013 09:33 GMT
#62985
On June 22 2013 16:57 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 16:49 canikizu wrote:
On June 22 2013 16:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 16:34 TheYango wrote:
The 3rd possibility is that DreamhackLoL did restreams during off-hours while the other streams didn't (I don't remember if this was the case).

If this was the case you'd expect the graph to mimic the peak hours during off hours while restreams. while it looks completely different, and nearly identical to the graphs of the other games off hours.

and even if it didn't mimic the peak hours shapes, you'd expect it to look significantly different from other games off hours, when it looks nearly identical.

If it's restreamed, the viewers are most likely not English speakers, so there're not gonna a lot of people watching it like peak hours.

You kind of underestimate the local streaming culture. There're a lot of local websites that will link the twitchtv stream to their pages, and everytime somebody access the website, the stream will most likely start and count it as a viewer. I mean, pages like LegendsBR.com having twitchtv right on the front page, and pages like op.gg/stream list a bunch of LoL streams from twitchtv and afreeca, so everytime somebody access the website, it's normal that the stream viewcount is active. I personally know some of my country's websites that also designs to have twitchtv on frontpage and stuffs.

Is that Riot fault? I doubt so. It's the effect that will happen when you are too big and everybody wants a piece of the pie.

Like i said if there was something inherently different with the stream or streaming culture of League of legends, you would expect the graph to look fundamentally different during non peak hours than dota 2/sc2 during non peak hours. the graph of LoL looks like the X axis shifted upward roughly 20k-25k units NOT fundamentally different in its shape. The explanations for that are a larger base of people (AKA people are inherently more likely to idle if they watch league than other games, or an artificial boost of some kind). but yeah the first one is the simpler explanation and i'd have to do quite abit of research to ever come to the conclusion of the second option, and even then i'd have to have an audit or riot and all their publicity firms in order to prove/disprove that they were involved in such a thing.

so TL;DR that data look weird, but dunno why, and can't say why without vastly more data.


league of legends has a really really really big player stream culture. if it wasnt for riot pushing esport, player stream were easily much more popular than tournament streams. i think what we see there is the baseline of lol streamviewers who are fanboys of certain players and just watch the team 24/7.

the community is completly different to dota/sc2 were basicly no one cares for playerstreams and everyone watches the tournaments.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
June 22 2013 09:36 GMT
#62986
On June 22 2013 18:32 Talron wrote:
Oh, I must have skipped that, when reading the changelog. Well, that explains everything.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=92055
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 22 2013 09:39 GMT
#62987
According to the new filter function I posted 56 of the 3150 pages
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
June 22 2013 09:42 GMT
#62988
Congrats, I guess?
"Yeah buddy"
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
June 22 2013 09:45 GMT
#62989
On June 22 2013 18:39 Yoshi- wrote:
According to the new filter function I posted 56 of the 3150 pages

Only 11 pages here :\
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
June 22 2013 09:50 GMT
#62990
On June 22 2013 18:31 739 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it should, especially after the buff everything triggers corrosive skin of viper.



Enemy morphling once created a copy of me (viper) and I made the mistake of hitting it.
That was painful
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 22 2013 09:51 GMT
#62991
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 22 2013 09:54 GMT
#62992
On June 22 2013 18:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?

just like double blademail does right?

xD
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 09:55:45
June 22 2013 09:55 GMT
#62993
Apparently I'm responsible for ~83 pages or something. Went through my second page and found this personal gem:

On March 11 2012 02:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
I can't decide what skillbuild to go with the new Invoker changes. QE is probably the strongest now (the one that Dendi goes) but it just feels so boring. Although QW isn't as faceroll anymore it's still amazingly powerful. I have always enjoyed WE very much but it seems pretty weak. Maybe start with an extra bracer or something? HMM.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 22 2013 09:57 GMT
#62994
On June 22 2013 18:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 18:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?

just like double blademail does right?

xD

Double blademail doesn't do that, coz it crashed wc3 when it did
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 22 2013 09:57 GMT
#62995
Riot stream has 4200 viewers when twitch.tv is down. you can't explain that. also that is a TL+ feature right guys?
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 22 2013 09:57 GMT
#62996
On June 22 2013 18:57 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 18:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?

just like double blademail does right?

xD

Double blademail doesn't do that, coz it crashed wc3 when it did

But 5 heroes with blade mail attacking a spectre does.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 22 2013 09:58 GMT
#62997
On June 22 2013 18:57 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 18:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?

just like double blademail does right?

xD

Double blademail doesn't do that, coz it crashed wc3 when it did

was being facetious but i guess it went over your head
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 22 2013 10:00 GMT
#62998
On June 22 2013 18:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 18:57 Qbek wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?

just like double blademail does right?

xD

Double blademail doesn't do that, coz it crashed wc3 when it did

was being facetious but i guess it went over your head

Well when you end a joke with "right?" it is really hard to see when it isn't complete idiocy
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 22 2013 10:02 GMT
#62999
On June 22 2013 19:00 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 18:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:57 Qbek wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?

just like double blademail does right?

xD

Double blademail doesn't do that, coz it crashed wc3 when it did

was being facetious but i guess it went over your head

Well when you end a joke with "right?" it is really hard to see when it isn't complete idiocy

attempted to show it with the face.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 22 2013 10:06 GMT
#63000
On June 22 2013 19:02 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 19:00 Qbek wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:57 Qbek wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 22 2013 18:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Does it result in an infinite loop until either dies?

just like double blademail does right?

xD

Double blademail doesn't do that, coz it crashed wc3 when it did

was being facetious but i guess it went over your head

Well when you end a joke with "right?" it is really hard to see when it isn't complete idiocy

attempted to show it with the face.

I'm just saying i feel the woosh was justified. Still waiting on confirmation of infinite loop, I think it should be patched out if it does coz it's kinda too silly (it would trigger from the replicate attacking if it works like I think it does)
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