EPTOn June 14 2013 17:31 MrCon wrote:
Is there a free download link ? I can't find it I'm blind
Is there a free download link ? I can't find it I'm blind
big red button under it,says download via novafile
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
big red button under it,says download via novafile | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 14 2013 17:14 Shaella wrote: here's a part of the article that i find particularly interesting ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZB6LIVP.jpg) rofl, apparently blizzard think that pro = unlikely to have bad behavior eh. interestingggg wait it also says the average skilled players (and assuming near 50% players are average at the game) have the worst behavior of all players??? So naive volvo, so naive. Hope they dont make MM with similar thinking behind this graph.... | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
The people who flame the most tend to be people who are bad enough not to know that they're bad | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + /sarcasm | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 14 2013 17:40 BurningSera wrote: wait it also says the average skilled players (and assuming near 50% players are average at the game) have the worst behavior of all players??? This would surprise you? There's a reason MOBAs have such a toxic community: The bad behavior players almost outnumber the manner dudes. The logic behind the graph makes sense as well, you're not going to blame other people if you know you're terrible, and you're not going to need to whine as much when you're good enough to carry anyone and have gotten that good because you realized you have to focus on your own mistakes. People who don't realize they are bad (and think they are matched with players far worse than them) are always the worst flamers, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was close to 50% of the players. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
And if people didnt see how pro players rage so damn in their games then i dont know what to say. reminded me of this related video: rofl rotk cant do that now in the booth xD On June 14 2013 17:59 Tobberoth wrote: This would surprise you? There's a reason MOBAs have such a toxic community: The bad behavior players almost outnumber the manner dudes. The logic behind the graph makes sense as well, you're not going to blame other people if you know you're terrible, and you're not going to need to whine as much when you're good enough to carry anyone and have gotten that good because you realized you have to focus on your own mistakes. People who don't realize they are bad (and think they are matched with players far worse than them) are always the worst flamers, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was close to 50% of the players. No I didnt mean that i dont agree on 'majority of average players tend to behave badly in game' (nor i agree on that) but there are simply too many exceptions in that assumption (eg 'most players barely talk in a game'). People with bad attitude/behavior will tend to behave badly in their games, it is that simple and that's why i said that it is naive to have a graph like that behind their thinking/designs. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
People who yell: Chuan, ROTK, Ferrari, dendi, xboct,.... If you think good conduct goes with high skill level, you are having a huge misconception about the game. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
It's only in team games where the more immature people have the opportunity to actively express this delusion. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Daray
6006 Posts
On June 14 2013 18:16 Kishin2 wrote: People in general tend to think overrate themselves. It's embedded in their psychology. Interestingly enough, the wiki suggests that the reverse may be true in East Asia. It's only in team games where the more immature people have the opportunity to actively express this delusion. I don't think i've ever played an online game where Dunning-Kruger is more pertinent than in dota. It obviously has to do with the game design more than anything else since bad team mates actually help the opposing team even more than in other games and winning the game alone is a difficult task (assuming the enemy team is near your skill level). | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
That Novafile won't let me download it | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On June 14 2013 18:13 NB wrote: People who yell: Chuan, ROTK, Ferrari, dendi, xboct,.... If you think good conduct goes with high skill level, you are having a huge misconception about the game. The graph is pointing out a correlation, not showing a rule. I actually agree with the correlation. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On June 14 2013 18:38 Yoshi- wrote: Anyone has the article and can reupload it somewhere? That Novafile won't let me download it If it helps, here's Kotaku's article about it. Kotaku | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
On June 14 2013 18:35 Daray wrote: I don't think i've ever played an online game where Dunning-Kruger is more pertinent than in dota. It obviously has to do with the game design more than anything else since bad team mates actually help the opposing team even more than in other games and winning the game alone is a difficult task (assuming the enemy team is near your skill level). I'd like to add that it is not Dunning-Kruger every time. You do actually meet players below your skill level, and for some players (including myself) may give complaints rather forcefully during a heated game. That being said, I don't deny it exists - it's just I have played 2k games soon and I still get supports that don't ward, carries that don't farm, etc. I am good enough to know that I suck, but unfortunately I am also good enough to be annoyed when people play like idiots. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On June 14 2013 18:35 Daray wrote: I don't think i've ever played an online game where Dunning-Kruger is more pertinent than in dota. It obviously has to do with the game design more than anything else since bad team mates actually help the opposing team even more than in other games and winning the game alone is a difficult task (assuming the enemy team is near your skill level). You should give EVE a visit. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
Don't do it! It's a trap! | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 14 2013 18:35 Daray wrote: I don't think i've ever played an online game where Dunning-Kruger is more pertinent than in dota. It obviously has to do with the game design more than anything else since bad team mates actually help the opposing team even more than in other games and winning the game alone is a difficult task (assuming the enemy team is near your skill level). I'd say it's far worse in LOL because it's the same as Dota but individual skill makes less of an impact and it's far harder to come back. If your solo offlane feeds in Dota 2, you can still win if you play a high impact role, either as mid and you focus on counter-ganking, or as a hard carry owning them later. If your Top in LoL feeds badly, you're going to have a terrible time since snowballing heroes can become ridiculously strong, you can't really do much if you're playing the AD carry and a fed pantheon jumps on you with his ulti, even if you're under tower. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Of course there are exceptions - if someone solokills you, if he microes like a god with meepo, or casts 5 spells within 3 seconds as invoker the skill is apparent, but that's really an exception. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 14 2013 17:40 BurningSera wrote: rofl, apparently blizzard think that pro = unlikely to have bad behavior eh. interestingggg wait it also says the average skilled players (and assuming near 50% players are average at the game) have the worst behavior of all players??? So naive volvo, so naive. Hope they dont make MM with similar thinking behind this graph.... Your MMR will now be based off of your in game behavior. | ||
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