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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
March 26 2012 17:25 GMT
#5681
On March 27 2012 02:23 imweakless wrote:
GGs... AL so good..


Except for yesterday where they got smashed two games in a row by MUFC
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
March 26 2012 17:25 GMT
#5682
Navi way too overconfident?. aL played some amazing dota too.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 26 2012 17:32 GMT
#5683
CLG vs GoSu

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/PurgeGamers
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 26 2012 17:50 GMT
#5684
On March 27 2012 00:40 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 22:04 Kiante wrote:
aparantly SK is going to sponsor a female dota team. with kellymilkies on the roster.

or it's a big fake. either way it's fucking hillarious.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SKDota


found it on reddit

coach merlini and solace manager.... seem legit @_@.
last time i check kellymilkies nationality is Singaporean... not USA, not sure though

about her background: she is originally came from SEA dota -> sc2 ->hon/LoL casting/media -> now dota2

pretty sure she admitted that her dota skill in the nationality thread is low... not sure how this team could ever compete with anyone...


Counterstrike before all of that, after SC2 she never really got into casting she was hired by own3d and still works there.

She has been a part of a 'team' with those girls that have scrim'd in a bunch of in house leagues for a few months but Kelly never really took it seriously she just likes to play the game. Sayuri on the other hand is super intense about the team so I don't know why everyone is putting it all on kelly. Sayuri is the person with the influence, she tried getting Merlini Kuroky and a few others to get sponsorship from like TSM or some shit like that, and she was one of only two people you could realistically go to, to get beta keys early on in beta (along with merlini). Basically everyone who was in beta pre-NDA got a key from merlini/sayuri or got a key from someone who got it from those two.

Also, Kelly is Singaporean yes but she sorta lives in the US now. Sorta being a very open term.



On to another topic though, why is Purge featured on TL? The guy is a caster and not particularly entertaining, engaging, nor good compared to the pros that have been featured so far. Blitz is better in every aspect and he still has yet to get featured.

On March 27 2012 01:16 Kiante wrote:
it's like he just blurts out shit as he see's it instead of knowing anything.


This is basically a perfect description of Ayesee. He doesn't even take the time to research ANYTHING about the scene before casting. He calls havost(XBOCT) ex-box. Calls Pajkatt Paj-cat, called Yaphets Yah-pets. Come on, these are such basic things that casters should know.

On top of that, in the past he alwyas says 'hey i'm not the expert thats what i have draskyll for' yet he starts blurting out stuff like "This Carry ES build by Dendi is going to change the metagame, people are going to start doing it" but no, dendi can do whatever he wants, its not going to change the pub metagame at all, that just isn't how dota works.

People need to stop complaining about Tobi's casting, its fine, he at least has knowledge of the scene.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 18:02:22
March 26 2012 18:01 GMT
#5685
I think Purge got featured when he started doing the starladder casts. Since those were pretty high quality matches and he was the only english broadcaster, I guess they deemed him worthy.

edit; who complains about tobi!? he's p4p best caster in all of esports, by far.
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PredPrey
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany46 Posts
March 26 2012 18:02 GMT
#5686
If my game is on page 4, does that mean my rating is pretty high or is it random?
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
March 26 2012 18:05 GMT
#5687
Purge casts a bunch of stuff (he was casting the premier league and now starladder). 90% of purges stream is high level teams playing in a decent competition. as for your points about his commentating etc, that's all relative. personally i like his commentating, but despise luminous, so when lumi isn't casting purge's stream is much better. his play isn't that bad either. he's not pro gamer level, but he has good knowledge and talks through all his decisions when he plays pubs in a way that could allow lesser skilled players to learn.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 26 2012 18:08 GMT
#5688
On March 27 2012 03:05 Kiante wrote:
Purge casts a bunch of stuff (he was casting the premier league and now starladder). 90% of purges stream is high level teams playing in a decent competition. as for your points about his commentating etc, that's all relative. personally i like his commentating, but despise luminous, so when lumi isn't casting purge's stream is much better. his play isn't that bad either. he's not pro gamer level, but he has good knowledge and talks through all his decisions when he plays pubs in a way that could allow lesser skilled players to learn.


Yea I don't mind purge if luminous isn't on. Also purge and Godz are quite a nice team.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 26 2012 18:09 GMT
#5689
On March 27 2012 03:01 crms wrote:
I think Purge got featured when he started doing the starladder casts. Since those were pretty high quality matches and he was the only english broadcaster, I guess they deemed him worthy.

edit; who complains about tobi!? he's p4p best caster in all of esports, by far.

most of people who speak 2 languages and play dota b4 the international dont like tobi cast... his play by play back then was no where close to what he is right now and is analytical casting is quite lack...

Personally i dont like purge either, have blitz on my steam friendlist but i have never check out his stream... The feature thing is quite questionable bc he is the 'only caster' doesnt mean he is a good one and should be featured. But TL does has some funny conditions into their featured listing so i dont think they gona remove him anytime soon...
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 26 2012 18:18 GMT
#5690
On March 27 2012 02:50 Zlasher wrote:

This is basically a perfect description of Ayesee. He doesn't even take the time to research ANYTHING about the scene before casting. He calls havost(XBOCT) ex-box. Calls Pajkatt Paj-cat, called Yaphets Yah-pets. Come on, these are such basic things that casters should know.

On top of that, in the past he alwyas says 'hey i'm not the expert thats what i have draskyll for' yet he starts blurting out stuff like "This Carry ES build by Dendi is going to change the metagame, people are going to start doing it" but no, dendi can do whatever he wants, its not going to change the pub metagame at all, that just isn't how dota works.

People need to stop complaining about Tobi's casting, its fine, he at least has knowledge of the scene.


Cool you are bitching about useless things.

Tobi also needed years to get xboct name right, and how should he have researched that? In the famous "how to pronounce dota2 pro gamers" wiki? Also tobi can't get names like "korok" right, and this name is not even "weird". If you want to bitch about those nonsense things you can do the same for tobi or any other caster.

Also ofc when Dendi does something it also effects pubs game, suddenly people go for exort invoker or pudge. This statement wasn't wrong at all, also it was more a joke than a real statement.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 26 2012 18:18 GMT
#5691
Did he just say dark seer low armor? The fuck.
Dark seer has 7 armor or so at level 1, how can he have low armor later on in the game? x_X
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 18:24:59
March 26 2012 18:24 GMT
#5692
Thoughts Bulba?

Lvl 9 Venomancer, ouch.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 26 2012 18:24 GMT
#5693
im watching russian cast... despite dont understand shit, its much more exciting hearing OPPA OPAA xD...

btw is jetlag = loda??? -_-
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 26 2012 18:25 GMT
#5694
On March 27 2012 03:24 NB wrote:
im watching russian cast... despite dont understand shit, its much more exciting hearing OPPA OPAA xD...

btw is jetlag = loda??? -_-

That would be a safe bet considering he just flew back from Singapore and is experiencing some jetlag,
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 26 2012 18:28 GMT
#5695
On March 27 2012 03:24 NB wrote:
im watching russian cast... despite dont understand shit, its much more exciting hearing OPPA OPAA xD...

btw is jetlag = loda??? -_-

Yeah but they're too bad at obsing. Purge has a neutral cast (not fantastic, not bad, and at least informative), and he has a correct obsing, which is really rare in the dota scene where the average observer is terribad.
widdox
Profile Joined August 2011
166 Posts
March 26 2012 18:28 GMT
#5696
I'm new to watching the DOTA 2 scene but for me Ayesee and Draskill do an excellent job. I was pleasantly surprised how well they did together. Yes ayesee is not an expert, but he doesn't need to be. He does a good job calling the action and letting Draskill fill in the details in the down time.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
March 26 2012 18:31 GMT
#5697
On March 27 2012 03:28 widdox wrote:
I'm new to watching the DOTA 2 scene but for me Ayesee and Draskill do an excellent job. I was pleasantly surprised how well they did together. Yes ayesee is not an expert, but he doesn't need to be. He does a good job calling the action and letting Draskill fill in the details in the down time.

The problem is, you dont really understand what you're missing. if he misses a gank you just miss it. if you saw a good caster/observer casting the same game as aysee you'd understand
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widdox
Profile Joined August 2011
166 Posts
March 26 2012 18:35 GMT
#5698
On March 27 2012 03:31 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 03:28 widdox wrote:
I'm new to watching the DOTA 2 scene but for me Ayesee and Draskill do an excellent job. I was pleasantly surprised how well they did together. Yes ayesee is not an expert, but he doesn't need to be. He does a good job calling the action and letting Draskill fill in the details in the down time.

The problem is, you dont really understand what you're missing. if he misses a gank you just miss it. if you saw a good caster/observer casting the same game as aysee you'd understand


You definitely know when you miss something. It says on the left who killed who. I'd say that in the recent casts that has happened less. I did go back and watch a few of the first Monthly Madness and I could tell that he has gotten a lot better. What I like is that they both understand their roles and concentrate on them. That is when they don't try to bring bulba in. Tobi to me is harder to listen to. I guess to each their own.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 26 2012 18:37 GMT
#5699
On March 27 2012 03:31 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 03:28 widdox wrote:
I'm new to watching the DOTA 2 scene but for me Ayesee and Draskill do an excellent job. I was pleasantly surprised how well they did together. Yes ayesee is not an expert, but he doesn't need to be. He does a good job calling the action and letting Draskill fill in the details in the down time.

The problem is, you dont really understand what you're missing. if he misses a gank you just miss it. if you saw a good caster/observer casting the same game as aysee you'd understand

and tbh he cant even do his job right... for the love of god dendi was playing SD not riki and NO, THERE IS ONLY 1 DENDI ON NAVI
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 26 2012 18:40 GMT
#5700
On March 27 2012 03:31 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 03:28 widdox wrote:
I'm new to watching the DOTA 2 scene but for me Ayesee and Draskill do an excellent job. I was pleasantly surprised how well they did together. Yes ayesee is not an expert, but he doesn't need to be. He does a good job calling the action and letting Draskill fill in the details in the down time.

The problem is, you dont really understand what you're missing. if he misses a gank you just miss it. if you saw a good caster/observer casting the same game as aysee you'd understand

No, if there is a problem then it's the caster being misinformed.
New players wont notice it, because they don't know if what the casters say is true.
Where even just an average player will cringe inside when someone calls, for example, dark seer, low armor.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
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