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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 12:33:30
May 06 2013 12:33 GMT
#54981
Today is a bad day for playing. Didn't play at all.

/joke
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 06 2013 12:55 GMT
#54982
Damn, this spectre from Funnik's stream was awesome. He went phaseboots + mask of madness and probably max desolate. It's ridiculous how dangerous the hero is with that build. Dagger + phase boots + mask of madness is 522 MS with terrain walking, and when desolate is active, it's just stupid how much damage she does with mom activated. Every ultimate is a guaranteed kill, and even without it, she can hunt down heroes easily. He finished the game with 23/4/17 score.
super gg
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 06 2013 12:58 GMT
#54983
You could play that a little less manly and go Phase + Drums + Yasha. Though that does cost like 2k more.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
May 06 2013 12:59 GMT
#54984
On May 06 2013 21:55 cecek wrote:
Damn, this spectre from Funnik's stream was awesome. He went phaseboots + mask of madness and probably max desolate. It's ridiculous how dangerous the hero is with that build. Dagger + phase boots + mask of madness is 522 MS with terrain walking, and when desolate is active, it's just stupid how much damage she does with mom activated. Every ultimate is a guaranteed kill, and even without it, she can hunt down heroes easily. He finished the game with 23/4/17 score.


I saw that too but needs a good team coordination and a good game awareness for team like never let you alone etc..
She has also BM to reduce the chance of focusing.
Worthwhile to try.
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Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
May 06 2013 13:11 GMT
#54985
It looked hilarious and pretty fun. Just pop ult and snag a kill. After a few of those I imagine the average pub will just clump up though, but you can probably build more traditional carry items off of the lead those snipes secure you.
fresh chops
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 13:53:14
May 06 2013 13:52 GMT
#54986
On May 06 2013 20:21 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 20:13 Tobberoth wrote:
On May 06 2013 20:09 cilinder007 wrote:
On May 06 2013 19:21 cecek wrote:
Why not? All that is wasted is the 5% aura, which is like the least relevant part of the item. The stats and extra charges you get full effect from multiple drums on a team.

becuase its still a 1700 gold investement and could be going toward a more important item like a mek, forcestaff, hex, whathaveyou

It is a 1700 investment that could go towards something else, but the thing with the drums is that they are so ridiculously cost-effective that you might not want that money to go to anything else. Take a forcestaff, that's 2350 gold for +10 int, +3 hp regen and a nice active. For 1700, you can instead get +9 ALL attributes... That gives you almost as much mana, mana regen and hp regen, but also more hp, more attack speed and armor. Obviously the premium for the forcestaff is the awesome active, the point is that the drums of endurance is really cost-effective regardless of the aura... and then you have the drum charges on top of that.

its better to have a team with a meka and 1 drums than a team with 3 drums, at one point you need your core items and drums delay your core items

agreed
i also want to add that too many jangos is a bad idea when your team has no utility/disables (aka shit lineup) and the other team has an actual lineup (but the game is still winnable). chances are too many heroes delay their damage output item progression and the buff ends up a poor man's escape tool when the other team has actual progression and you dont
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givemefive
Profile Joined April 2010
United States300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 14:07:50
May 06 2013 14:05 GMT
#54987
One change I've made regarding bracers on supports recently is to avoid them when there is a nyx on the other team. Instead I'll get a vit booster or point booster. This gives quite a bit more needed survival for better item slot efficiency and no int gain. Also on many supports you get arcanes so after youu get the other items you wanted you can disassemble for a soul booster which is a lot of health. The soulbooster is more relevant for say a rubick, lina, or lion than say a shadow demon or THD but still it's something to think about.

Ideally boots->wand->urn->arcanes->blink->point booster->??->

As a support you always want to have at least 1 spot for support items, sometiems 2 so it's important to manage your inventory and put some items in the stash if you need to carry something extra like dust.

Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
May 06 2013 14:08 GMT
#54988
Reverse QQ: people play better when you complement them :D

My last game went smoothly because everybody was so friendly. Magnus is not doing well but we repeatedly called him s4 to boost his morale up. When the game is all said and done, he hit a big RP and we won the game! Great feeling, I bet he was happy too. It's nice to make new friends in Dota <3
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 06 2013 14:08 GMT
#54989
On May 06 2013 23:05 givemefive wrote:
One change I've made regarding bracers on supports recently is to avoid them when there is a nyx on the other team. Instead I'll get a vit booster or point booster. This gives quite a bit more needed survival for better item slot efficiency and no int gain. Also on many supports you get arcanes so after youu get the other items you wanted you can disassemble for a soul booster which is a lot of health. The soulbooster is more relevant for say a rubick, lina, or lion than say a shadow demon or THD but still it's something to think about.

Ideally boots->wand->urn->arcanes->blink->point booster->??->

As a support you always want to have at least 1 spot for support items, sometiems 2 so it's important to manage your inventory and put some items in the stash if you need to carry something extra like dust.


Well the problem is being an effective support and having the money to buy a vit booster.

Actually there is a lot of problems getting a vit booster on a support.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 06 2013 14:12 GMT
#54990
On May 06 2013 23:08 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:05 givemefive wrote:
One change I've made regarding bracers on supports recently is to avoid them when there is a nyx on the other team. Instead I'll get a vit booster or point booster. This gives quite a bit more needed survival for better item slot efficiency and no int gain. Also on many supports you get arcanes so after youu get the other items you wanted you can disassemble for a soul booster which is a lot of health. The soulbooster is more relevant for say a rubick, lina, or lion than say a shadow demon or THD but still it's something to think about.

Ideally boots->wand->urn->arcanes->blink->point booster->??->

As a support you always want to have at least 1 spot for support items, sometiems 2 so it's important to manage your inventory and put some items in the stash if you need to carry something extra like dust.


Well the problem is being an effective support and having the money to buy a vit booster.

Actually there is a lot of problems getting a vit booster on a support.

buy 12 soul ring recipes! "

another alternative is to just attempt building a sange for heavens halberd
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Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
May 06 2013 14:13 GMT
#54991
On May 06 2013 23:12 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:08 Comeh wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:05 givemefive wrote:
One change I've made regarding bracers on supports recently is to avoid them when there is a nyx on the other team. Instead I'll get a vit booster or point booster. This gives quite a bit more needed survival for better item slot efficiency and no int gain. Also on many supports you get arcanes so after youu get the other items you wanted you can disassemble for a soul booster which is a lot of health. The soulbooster is more relevant for say a rubick, lina, or lion than say a shadow demon or THD but still it's something to think about.

Ideally boots->wand->urn->arcanes->blink->point booster->??->

As a support you always want to have at least 1 spot for support items, sometiems 2 so it's important to manage your inventory and put some items in the stash if you need to carry something extra like dust.


Well the problem is being an effective support and having the money to buy a vit booster.

Actually there is a lot of problems getting a vit booster on a support.

buy 12 soul ring recipes! "

another alternative is to just attempt building a sange for heavens halberd

LOL recipe. I remember buying 5 crystalis recipe for my ES to have blink :D
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 06 2013 14:16 GMT
#54992
On May 06 2013 23:13 Delphiki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:12 rabidch wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:08 Comeh wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:05 givemefive wrote:
One change I've made regarding bracers on supports recently is to avoid them when there is a nyx on the other team. Instead I'll get a vit booster or point booster. This gives quite a bit more needed survival for better item slot efficiency and no int gain. Also on many supports you get arcanes so after youu get the other items you wanted you can disassemble for a soul booster which is a lot of health. The soulbooster is more relevant for say a rubick, lina, or lion than say a shadow demon or THD but still it's something to think about.

Ideally boots->wand->urn->arcanes->blink->point booster->??->

As a support you always want to have at least 1 spot for support items, sometiems 2 so it's important to manage your inventory and put some items in the stash if you need to carry something extra like dust.


Well the problem is being an effective support and having the money to buy a vit booster.

Actually there is a lot of problems getting a vit booster on a support.

buy 12 soul ring recipes! "

another alternative is to just attempt building a sange for heavens halberd

LOL recipe. I remember buying 5 crystalis recipe for my ES to have blink :D

maybe if you buy a lot of bracer recipes your team will think you're a noob
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 06 2013 14:24 GMT
#54993
Recipes no longer sell for 80%, it's 50% now so don't do that
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 06 2013 15:00 GMT
#54994
On May 06 2013 20:21 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 20:13 Tobberoth wrote:
On May 06 2013 20:09 cilinder007 wrote:
On May 06 2013 19:21 cecek wrote:
Why not? All that is wasted is the 5% aura, which is like the least relevant part of the item. The stats and extra charges you get full effect from multiple drums on a team.

becuase its still a 1700 gold investement and could be going toward a more important item like a mek, forcestaff, hex, whathaveyou

It is a 1700 investment that could go towards something else, but the thing with the drums is that they are so ridiculously cost-effective that you might not want that money to go to anything else. Take a forcestaff, that's 2350 gold for +10 int, +3 hp regen and a nice active. For 1700, you can instead get +9 ALL attributes... That gives you almost as much mana, mana regen and hp regen, but also more hp, more attack speed and armor. Obviously the premium for the forcestaff is the awesome active, the point is that the drums of endurance is really cost-effective regardless of the aura... and then you have the drum charges on top of that.

its better to have a team with a meka and 1 drums than a team with 3 drums, at one point you need your core items and drums delay your core items

Meka's a bad example because Meka is also stupidly cost-effective. If your mana can support using it, it's cost-effective even if you only ever used it to heal yourself.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
May 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#54995
I still get asked why I go Mek on my OD from time to time
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 15:16:27
May 06 2013 15:15 GMT
#54996
I get reported when I pretend im aui and buy mek on ranged autoattackers with naturally high damage.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 06 2013 15:20 GMT
#54997
On May 07 2013 00:15 PassiveAce wrote:
I get reported when I pretend im aui and buy mek on ranged autoattackers with naturally high damage.

"stupid viper gets mek instead of vg, reported"

Not to mention you actually have no ground for a report if it is just someone playing badly.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 06 2013 15:20 GMT
#54998
I get meka on half the heroes I don't really want to but I have to because that Clockwerk/Furion/Beastmaster/Xherowhoshouldgetmeka isn't going to get one since its a pub.
WriterXiao8~~
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 15:23:22
May 06 2013 15:21 GMT
#54999
On May 07 2013 00:20 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 00:15 PassiveAce wrote:
I get reported when I pretend im aui and buy mek on ranged autoattackers with naturally high damage.

"stupid viper gets mek instead of vg, reported"

Not to mention you actually have no ground for a report if it is just someone playing badly.

if you said that in Portuguese it would be an exact quote :p

-edit this isnt a whine at brazilians. I love errybody.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 06 2013 15:22 GMT
#55000
On May 07 2013 00:20 Kipsate wrote:
I get meka on half the heroes I don't really want to but I have to because that Clockwerk/Furion/Beastmaster/Xherowhoshouldgetmeka isn't going to get one since its a pub.

And then that one time when you want to get a mek on like necrolyte suddenly four people already got a headress
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