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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 06 2013 07:06 GMT
#54941
On May 06 2013 15:44 RageBot wrote:
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On May 06 2013 11:58 Comeh wrote:
I mean, if you filter to "Heroes: Lone Druid", i'm on page5.

That counts, right?


How do you know in which page you are?


when ur in the waiting screen/any point after game started just go to the main menu and look at live games, then flip through pages to find ur name and game
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
May 06 2013 07:15 GMT
#54942
Not enough people go armlet or medallion on slark. All the benefits of armlet without the life drain because of his ult. Medallion's gives mana regen, which slark needs, and a free -6 armor debuff because of dark pact.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 06 2013 07:18 GMT
#54943
I like shadowblade slark better for unconventional item choices.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 06 2013 07:36 GMT
#54944
On May 06 2013 16:15 Kishin2 wrote:
Not enough people go armlet or medallion on slark. All the benefits of armlet without the life drain because of his ult. Medallion's gives mana regen, which slark needs, and a free -6 armor debuff because of dark pact.

There's not a whole lot of sense in Armlet because of how fast the hero farms once he has a first mana item.

Drums->straight major item like S&Y or BKB. They're stronger item timings than Armlet and because the hero farms so fast, you don't need to stop for a 2.5k gold item.
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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
May 06 2013 07:38 GMT
#54945
On May 06 2013 16:06 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 15:44 RageBot wrote:
On May 06 2013 11:58 Comeh wrote:
I mean, if you filter to "Heroes: Lone Druid", i'm on page5.

That counts, right?


How do you know in which page you are?


when ur in the waiting screen/any point after game started just go to the main menu and look at live games, then flip through pages to find ur name and game

+1

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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 06 2013 07:46 GMT
#54946
i don't see why you'd ever go BKB or SnY on Slark

you don't need BKB when you've got so many ways to get out of stuns or dodge abilities

SnY is a waste compared to Skadi, Skadi serves him amazingly
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 06 2013 08:26 GMT
#54947
Happy birthday Yango :D

On May 06 2013 16:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
I like shadowblade slark better for unconventional item choices.


I honestly think that power treads, shadowblade and orchid is the best build on slark. It owns, no kididngs.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
May 06 2013 08:33 GMT
#54948
On May 06 2013 17:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
Happy birthday Yango :D

Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 16:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
I like shadowblade slark better for unconventional item choices.


I honestly think that power treads, shadowblade and orchid is the best build on slark. It owns, no kididngs.

Slark with ShadowBlade Orchid is my favorite build. But I only have the luxury of building them when Im snowballed from the start. Otherwise, I claw my way to BKB SNY.
Skol
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 06 2013 08:39 GMT
#54949
On May 06 2013 17:33 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 17:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
Happy birthday Yango :D

On May 06 2013 16:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
I like shadowblade slark better for unconventional item choices.


I honestly think that power treads, shadowblade and orchid is the best build on slark. It owns, no kididngs.

Slark with ShadowBlade Orchid is my favorite build. But I only have the luxury of building them when Im snowballed from the start. Otherwise, I claw my way to BKB SNY.


Pretty much my go to build as well. I actually think it's not bad if you're not doing so hot because Orchid has one of the best build-ups ever (tons of sub 1k gold pieces) so even if you do get killed you should be able to put it together. The utlity on it is also super nice for team fights as well as cornering someone alone.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 06 2013 08:45 GMT
#54950
Euls is also funny for purging dust quickly.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 06 2013 08:50 GMT
#54951
Usually you do need a bkb eventually, but I don't think going for it as a first item (or second after drums) is very clever. You want to get some sort of a ganking item first and then the bkb for teamfights. Treads -> drums -> Shadowblade/Orchid -> bkb is the best way to go about things, I think.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 09:03:02
May 06 2013 09:00 GMT
#54952
On May 06 2013 17:39 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 17:33 Emnjay808 wrote:
On May 06 2013 17:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
Happy birthday Yango :D

On May 06 2013 16:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
I like shadowblade slark better for unconventional item choices.


I honestly think that power treads, shadowblade and orchid is the best build on slark. It owns, no kididngs.

Slark with ShadowBlade Orchid is my favorite build. But I only have the luxury of building them when Im snowballed from the start. Otherwise, I claw my way to BKB SNY.


Pretty much my go to build as well. I actually think it's not bad if you're not doing so hot because Orchid has one of the best build-ups ever (tons of sub 1k gold pieces) so even if you do get killed you should be able to put it together. The utlity on it is also super nice for team fights as well as cornering someone alone.

The problem is that while Orchid has good buildup, most of the Oblivion Staff stats are wasted, because after the first Robe of the Magi, none of the mana stats do you any good (with Treads swap and 1 Robe fo the Magi, you can basically flatline your mana even if you're using Dark Pact to farm--and just send a clarity if you're low mana after a kill).

Particularly if you're getting Drums first, you don't need that much mana/regen. Two Oblivion Staves basically has the same usefulness to you as a Yasha.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 06 2013 09:10 GMT
#54953
Drums isn't my favorite item on him but I agree that if I was getting it then orchid is pretty pointless. I like getting stats from other places since you don't need the MS bonus most of the time and attack speed is relatively easy to get. Not to mention at least 2-3 people seem to get it so stacking it isn't that fun.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 06 2013 09:14 GMT
#54954
Drums are good since it allows you to get closer to 522 with lower ranks in your ultimate.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 06 2013 09:16 GMT
#54955
MS is actually a really important stat for Slark to have if you're in games where people actually get detection properly and your ult stops being a reliable MS source in fights.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 06 2013 09:20 GMT
#54956
You can never have too many drum charges. And the stats on him are always nice. I don't think the mana regen is all wasted from an orchid. If you farm the jungle and use pounce to jump from amp to camp faster and dark pact to kill them, you burn through mana pretty damn quickly. Of course you don't have to use pounce as it doesn't speed your farming that much, but it's not negligible, and you never run out of mana. If there's at least one hero that's vulnerable to silence(puck/weaver/storm/etc.), I think orchid is a good buy on Slark.
super gg
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 06 2013 09:21 GMT
#54957
All roads lead to Drums of Endurance.
WriterXiao8~~
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
May 06 2013 09:25 GMT
#54958
Isn't Lothar broken on him because in Dota2 you don't make smoke when you're invisible but not under ulti effect? Perfect initiation tool, attack, latch, pact ulti and everyone die.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 06 2013 09:25 GMT
#54959
I have yet to be in a game and think "I wish I didn't buy the drums." The item is just good on any hero at any point of the game. I guess if you're a 5 slotted carry, you don't want to use the 6th slot on drums, but apart from that it's just sooo good.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 06 2013 09:31 GMT
#54960
On May 06 2013 18:25 Gheizen64 wrote:
Isn't Lothar broken on him because in Dota2 you don't make smoke when you're invisible but not under ulti effect? Perfect initiation tool, attack, latch, pact ulti and everyone die.

The practical usefulness of that isn't that high. In gank/solo kill situation, you can just use the ulti to open anyway with 522 MS--for any hero that has an escape that requires you to open the gank/solo kill next to them, said escape breaks the Pounce tether anyway. For teamfights, you're not initiating because you're a carry with extremely low base stats. You generally need to pick your engagement quite carefully pre-BKB and you definitely almost never want to be the first one in.

Lothar's is good on Slark because it gives cost-efficient damage stats and a second invis to give your ult usage some flexibility. It's not "broken" by any means.
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