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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 03 2013 18:56 GMT
#54541
On May 04 2013 03:55 Spicy_Curry wrote:
There is no way a major patch is coming in july. That is way too short of a time considering TI3 is early august. I think the patch will hit right after the qualifiers end. That would be the smartest time to implement it.

Well, Icefrog pretty much confirmed that 6.78 will be a patch with many new features(likes heroes) and balance, so it will be quite a big pathc
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 03 2013 18:57 GMT
#54542
Dendi goes carry everything.

The leak on 6.78 is legit because icefrog said in emails that he thought 6.78 for sure and probably 6.78b would be out before TI3. The june/july part could only be wrong if 6.78 came out in may
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
May 03 2013 18:57 GMT
#54543
Early June is pretty much the latest it could come out.
Once you Goblak...
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 03 2013 18:58 GMT
#54544
On May 04 2013 03:52 Comeh wrote:
Lol - another unofficial "leak". Probably BS but always fun nonetheless http://www.moredota.com/Thread-DotA-Allstars-6-78-and-6-78b-coming-in-June-or-July.html


Pretty sure i've seen that before, it's pretty old.
They say this are hidden heroes that icefrog didn't finish.
Aui_2000
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada435 Posts
May 03 2013 18:59 GMT
#54545
On March 19 2013 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 04:09 Aui_2000 wrote:
Hey guys remember when everyone was hating on armlet syllabear?

Not legit till the Chinese do it.


On February 07 2013 04:27 teapoted wrote:
Oh my, it's chairraider

Either way Armlet isn't that great on LD. It's just Aui playing hipster-dota.


thoughts guys?
follow @aui_2000 // www.twitch.tv/aui_2000
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 03 2013 19:00 GMT
#54546
On May 04 2013 03:59 Aui_2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:09 Aui_2000 wrote:
Hey guys remember when everyone was hating on armlet syllabear?

Not legit till the Chinese do it.


Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:27 teapoted wrote:
Oh my, it's chairraider

Either way Armlet isn't that great on LD. It's just Aui playing hipster-dota.


thoughts guys?

Now confirmed by Valve as a bug.

Moderator
Aui_2000
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:02:48
May 03 2013 19:02 GMT
#54547
On May 04 2013 04:00 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:59 Aui_2000 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:09 Aui_2000 wrote:
Hey guys remember when everyone was hating on armlet syllabear?

Not legit till the Chinese do it.


On February 07 2013 04:27 teapoted wrote:
Oh my, it's chairraider

Either way Armlet isn't that great on LD. It's just Aui playing hipster-dota.


thoughts guys?

Now confirmed by Valve as a bug.



doesn't really change its previous viability

Everyone was accounting for the bugged numbers

i win lalala
follow @aui_2000 // www.twitch.tv/aui_2000
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 03 2013 19:02 GMT
#54548
On May 04 2013 03:59 Aui_2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:09 Aui_2000 wrote:
Hey guys remember when everyone was hating on armlet syllabear?

Not legit till the Chinese do it.


Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:27 teapoted wrote:
Oh my, it's chairraider

Either way Armlet isn't that great on LD. It's just Aui playing hipster-dota.


thoughts guys?

Not legit until banned from tournaments.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:04:53
May 03 2013 19:03 GMT
#54549
On May 04 2013 03:59 Aui_2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:09 Aui_2000 wrote:
Hey guys remember when everyone was hating on armlet syllabear?

Not legit till the Chinese do it.


Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:27 teapoted wrote:
Oh my, it's chairraider

Either way Armlet isn't that great on LD. It's just Aui playing hipster-dota.


thoughts guys?
I think you've been saving that for way too long lol.

Sure, Armlet turns out to be better than it seemed from the start. At the time it really didn't seem like it provided more than maelstrom, but I suppose it depends on what you're doing with LD as well. You still play hipster-dota, no escaping it.
Once you Goblak...
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 03 2013 19:04 GMT
#54550
On May 04 2013 03:59 Aui_2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:09 Aui_2000 wrote:
Hey guys remember when everyone was hating on armlet syllabear?

Not legit till the Chinese do it.


Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:27 teapoted wrote:
Oh my, it's chairraider

Either way Armlet isn't that great on LD. It's just Aui playing hipster-dota.


thoughts guys?

still worse than maelstrom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 03 2013 19:04 GMT
#54551
On May 04 2013 04:02 Aui_2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 04:00 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:59 Aui_2000 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 19 2013 04:09 Aui_2000 wrote:
Hey guys remember when everyone was hating on armlet syllabear?

Not legit till the Chinese do it.


On February 07 2013 04:27 teapoted wrote:
Oh my, it's chairraider

Either way Armlet isn't that great on LD. It's just Aui playing hipster-dota.


thoughts guys?

Now confirmed by Valve as a bug.



doesn't really change its previous viability

Everyone was accounting for the bugged numbers

i win lalala

For the record, my comments from the very beginning were in jest.
Moderator
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:08:36
May 03 2013 19:06 GMT
#54552
On May 04 2013 03:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
Yeah sure. 'Consider prioritising Aura over additional levels of Stomp if against heavy resists such as Rubick/Dragon Knight.'

Aura doesn't affect either of those more than normal. Neither Null Field nor Dragon Blood add to base armor/magic resist.

The prime targets for TC's aura are low mobility carries that rely on defensive ability to stay in the fight--because in those cases you can reliably keep the aura on your desired target. Heroes like Luna, DK, Juggernaut, that don't have mobility skills and expect to just engage teamfights head-on.

@Torte, item start should be either the normal 3xBranch+Tango Bottle-rush start or have Stout Shield, not 1x Gauntlet. AC and Medallion are both situational items. AC is an item practically made for TC if he can actually get the farm to get one.
Moderator
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 03 2013 19:07 GMT
#54553
On May 04 2013 04:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
Yeah sure. 'Consider prioritising Aura over additional levels of Stomp if against heavy resists such as Rubick/Dragon Knight.'

Aura doesn't affect either of those more than normal. Neither Null Field nor Dragon Blood add to base armor/magic resist.

The prime targets for TC's aura are low mobility carries that rely on defensive ability to stay in the fight--because in those cases you can reliably keep the aura on your desired target. Heroes like Luna, DK, Juggernaut, that don't have mobility skills and expect to just engage teamfights head-on.

@Torte, item start should be either the normal 3xBranch+Tango Bottle-rush start or have Stout Shield, not 1x Gauntlet. AC and Medallion are both situational items. AC is an item practically made for TC if he can actually get the farm to get one.


I'll add them in.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
May 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#54554
On May 04 2013 03:09 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 02:26 Dankleteer wrote:
Lol you HAVE to love dendi.. He's taking a coffee break with a mug that says "BIG BOSS" on it, a juggernaut jumps him (he's skywrath), he promptly owns him with one hands while continuing to casually sip boss mug.


Now if Demon did the same thing, people would call him a cocky no life bastard.

And if that was SingSing, a new shrine would probably be built.


Haha Demon would yell "DEMON" and sing would say one of his little sayings. Neither has the bossitude to conceive of owning a big boss mug though.
fresh chops
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#54555
It's kind of funny that of the three -armor items in the game, you chose to list the one that's actually pretty bad on TC and not the two that are good.
Moderator
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
May 03 2013 19:09 GMT
#54556
After watching Dendi's Elder Titan game just now, I have to remember never to play ET with a Kunkka on my team.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 03 2013 19:11 GMT
#54557
On May 04 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:
It's kind of funny that of the three -armor items in the game, you chose to list the one that's actually pretty bad on TC and not the two that are good.


I didn't understand why AC is so good on ET and when I mentioned Medallion yesterday, it didn't get much support so I didn't include it in an already rather long list of situational.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:15:11
May 03 2013 19:14 GMT
#54558
On May 04 2013 04:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
Yeah sure. 'Consider prioritising Aura over additional levels of Stomp if against heavy resists such as Rubick/Dragon Knight.'

Aura doesn't affect either of those more than normal. Neither Null Field nor Dragon Blood add to base armor/magic resist.

The prime targets for TC's aura are low mobility carries that rely on defensive ability to stay in the fight--because in those cases you can reliably keep the aura on your desired target. Heroes like Luna, DK, Juggernaut, that don't have mobility skills and expect to just engage teamfights head-on.

@Torte, item start should be either the normal 3xBranch+Tango Bottle-rush start or have Stout Shield, not 1x Gauntlet. AC and Medallion are both situational items. AC is an item practically made for TC if he can actually get the farm to get one.

According to dota2 wiki: Dragon Blood - The armor upgrade counts as base armor, not an addition. So it should get affected by the aura. Or do I miss something?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 03 2013 19:17 GMT
#54559
It's listed as base armor in the UI (adds to the white number rather than the green number), but it's not actually treated as base armor by the one effect in DotA that actually distinguishes base and bonus armor (Natural Order).

So visually it's base armor, but functionally it's not.
Moderator
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:27:52
May 03 2013 19:19 GMT
#54560
On May 04 2013 04:17 TheYango wrote:
It's listed as base armor in the UI (adds to the white number rather than the green number), but it's not actually treated as base armor by the one effect in DotA that actually distinguishes base and bonus armor (Natural Order).

So visually it's base armor, but functionally it's not.

Yes, I just found this, thanks.
Something should be done about Natural Order's interactions with Dragon Blood. It creates too much confusion for no reason, especially now when the DB armor bonus isn't displayed correctly in the first place.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
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