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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 01 2013 15:33 GMT
#53941
ROX.KIS are scrimming DD on Dread's stream right now, in case anyone was interested.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 01 2013 15:34 GMT
#53942
What roles are people playing on DD?
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 01 2013 15:36 GMT
#53943
Decently? 800 range on the Arcane bolt is fucking insane.... plus the concussive 1600 range... I dont see any of the combo Yacobs mentioned work bc SM doesnt scale with his attack damage. Arcane bolt is not an orb and it does not carry your attack damage. If anything SM needs something like an OD aura in order to spam his spells.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
May 01 2013 15:40 GMT
#53944
YOu guys are all werid! As a pub pick in Dota1 (Yes I still play it!) SM can rape face... If youre up against a dominating skywrath player theres no way around it. You die...

He is one of my fav picks in high level pubs.
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 01 2013 15:41 GMT
#53945
Silent is playing Phantom Lancer which is weird now I think about it.
Goblak (pretty sure freewinner is his alias) is on kotl and the captain spot.
Funzii is playing puck, who I think was mid.
The rest 2 are Maldejambes on Darkseer. I think that's fuckingmad, but not 100% sure.
One more name I don't recoginse at all on Gyro, support gyro, I think.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 01 2013 15:49 GMT
#53946
On May 01 2013 23:56 maru~ wrote:
SM mid I feel is too dependent on rolling the early-mid and snowballing from there because his farm ability is really bad. Even in a fairly decent game he will have a hard time going for Hex as opposed to other strong mid solos such as QoP and Puck (or even Rubick in TI2). On top of that he is really squishy. Putting him mid seems a bit of a high risk medium reward kind of deal (shoutout to Fear), because even if he does well I think other strong mids would contribute just as much if not more, on top of being able to farm gamebreaking items later on.

On the other hand, I can see him work out as a support. His slow has retarded range and is quite strong on level 1, silence is very strong as well, and his spells have good range in general. Not sure if it would be worth it over other top tier supports though.

I mean, zoning ability in a trilane isn't the only reason you pick supports.

All the hero does is level/item dependent damage. What do you expect the hero to accomplish while underfarmed/underleveled?
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 01 2013 15:50 GMT
#53947
On May 02 2013 00:41 cecek wrote:
Silent is playing Phantom Lancer which is weird now I think about it.
Goblak (pretty sure freewinner is his alias) is on kotl and the captain spot.
Funzii is playing puck, who I think was mid.
The rest 2 are Maldejambes on Darkseer. I think that's fuckingmad, but not 100% sure.
One more name I don't recoginse at all on Gyro, support gyro, I think.

Who was picking?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 01 2013 15:51 GMT
#53948
On May 02 2013 00:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Who was picking?

On May 02 2013 00:41 cecek wrote:
Silent is playing Phantom Lancer which is weird now I think about it.
Goblak (pretty sure freewinner is his alias) is on kotl and the captain spot.
Funzii is playing puck, who I think was mid.
The rest 2 are Maldejambes on Darkseer. I think that's fuckingmad, but not 100% sure.
One more name I don't recoginse at all on Gyro, support gyro, I think.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 01 2013 15:55 GMT
#53949
Captain is not always the same as the drafter, although most of the time it is.
WriterXiao8~~
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 01 2013 16:06 GMT
#53950
I don't know why fear is so happy with Jeyo, I really think that Jeyo's carry preformance has been lacking, he doesn't have the carry farming mindset yet
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 01 2013 16:09 GMT
#53951
On May 02 2013 01:06 Shaella wrote:
I don't know why fear is so happy with Jeyo, I really think that Jeyo's carry preformance has been lacking, he doesn't have the carry farming mindset yet

I'm inclined to agree, but I imagine its that Jeyo shows a higher level of dedication and commitment compared to the other members.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 01 2013 16:13 GMT
#53952
On May 02 2013 01:09 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 01:06 Shaella wrote:
I don't know why fear is so happy with Jeyo, I really think that Jeyo's carry preformance has been lacking, he doesn't have the carry farming mindset yet

I'm inclined to agree, but I imagine its that Jeyo shows a higher level of dedication and commitment compared to the other members.

probably, helps that he came to the house too
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
May 01 2013 16:13 GMT
#53953
Servers still completely messed up?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 01 2013 16:13 GMT
#53954
I'd guess jeyo is less "entitled" (or maybe "complacent"), since I think a large part of Demon and Maelk's issues are the fact that they are used to success, and probably see it as their due, in a way. I mean, maybe not all the time but its kinda the attitude that they seem to have.

A bit like vigoss?
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 01 2013 16:14 GMT
#53955
SM will never make it into the CM draft in the top level game.

Whoever pick it is essentially giving free win to the other team.

Too farm and level dependent.
Conclusion: cannot be played as a support

Doesn't transition well into the late-game and too squishy and no AoE control/no mobility
1.So he is terrible compared to the other mid lane hero(QoP,Magnus,Puck,TA,SS,etc)

Conclusion:
SM is not legit in top level games.
Play your best
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 01 2013 16:15 GMT
#53956
I still remember people here on TL saying that Nyx was a bad support.
Yeah...
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 01 2013 16:19 GMT
#53957
On May 02 2013 01:14 FakeDeath wrote:
SM will never make it into the CM draft in the top level game.

Whoever pick it is essentially giving free win to the other team.

Too farm and level dependent.
Conclusion: cannot be played as a support

Doesn't transition well into the late-game and too squishy and no AoE control/no mobility
1.So he is terrible compared to the other mid lane hero(QoP,Magnus,Puck,TA,SS,etc)

Conclusion:
SM is not legit in top level games.

He was picked in the dota1 GEST tournament.
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
May 01 2013 16:21 GMT
#53958
If you can force a tri vs tri situation, I think skywrath would fare decently well vs a lot of the currently popular non mid solos (lone druid, weaver, natures prophet, clockwerk, I'm sure I am forgetting others) and be able to contribute majorly to lots of different lineup styles, with the huge damage, nice range, slow, and built-in orchid he brings to the table if he can only get a decent start.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 01 2013 16:22 GMT
#53959
On May 02 2013 01:14 FakeDeath wrote:
SM will never make it into the CM draft in the top level game.

Whoever pick it is essentially giving free win to the other team.

Too farm and level dependent.
Conclusion: cannot be played as a support

Doesn't transition well into the late-game and too squishy and no AoE control/no mobility
1.So he is terrible compared to the other mid lane hero(QoP,Magnus,Puck,TA,SS,etc)

Conclusion:
SM is not legit in top level games.

His biggest problem is that he's ridiculously (almost more than anyone) easy to gank, and lane dominaters that don't have a stun aren't too popular in the bottle crow era we are in right now. If he doesn't get off to a ridiculously good start, he loses.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 16:25:19
May 01 2013 16:23 GMT
#53960
On May 02 2013 01:21 JJoNeEightY wrote:
If you can force a tri vs tri situation, I think skywrath would fare decently well vs a lot of the currently popular non mid solos (lone druid, weaver, natures prophet, clockwerk, I'm sure I am forgetting others) and be able to contribute majorly to lots of different lineup styles, with the huge damage, nice range, slow, and built-in orchid he brings to the table if he can only get a decent start.

Safe lane vs. hard lane I'm pretty sure Skywrath crushes any hero in the game 1v1.

The distance to their hard lane tower is too long--so his level 3 kill threat is ridiculously high.
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