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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 13:28:03
May 01 2013 13:26 GMT
#53921
On May 01 2013 22:19 NB wrote:


Just applied to join EG....

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3218
pretty good interview with Fear, revealing some insight into EG G-1 performance.

Good luck you mad bastard :p
On May 01 2013 13:04 Whole wrote:
is there going to be a little TL meet up at the TI3?

I'm certain there will be, it's really just a matter of deciding on a meeting place together I would imagine.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 01 2013 13:32 GMT
#53922
On May 01 2013 22:19 NB wrote:
https://twitter.com/uw_NB/status/329585507279458304

Just applied to join EG....

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3218
pretty good interview with Fear, revealing some insight into EG G-1 performance.


I feel sad for Fear =(

Doesn't exactly sound happy with anyone on EG other than Jeyo lol =/

He's too good a player to be languishing in an unmotivated team, I hope they sort themselves out already.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 01 2013 13:42 GMT
#53923
Hope they can stabilize.
WriterXiao8~~
andy186
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 13:48:11
May 01 2013 13:47 GMT
#53924
It feels like its going to be "come to the house in arizona or get kicked" or specifically to maelk "gf or dota". EG have shown time and time again when they actually play well they are a very strong team.

If you look at the synergy between fear and demon. If they were all in a teamhouse that could work across the whole team be amazing to see.

ti3 champion fear. couldnt contain the bias
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 01 2013 13:56 GMT
#53925
On May 01 2013 22:13 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 22:03 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On May 01 2013 18:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
I remember a time when he was solely known for his Lifestealer. Is Fear Naix or is Naix Fear? At the time there was another player who was the brunt of the same jokes with the same hero but I've forgotten his name...


What happened to FnC too haha? He played the hell out of Naix before it was the in-thing

Not really. Fear and Johnny Utah were THE Naix players about 4-5 years ago. FnC is only last year.

Illidan (now on VP) was also known to play Naix 24/7 in pubs, I think.
super gg
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 01 2013 13:57 GMT
#53926
Naix used to be such a small cute ghoul with 3 passives

now he is just a dick.
WriterXiao8~~
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 01 2013 14:00 GMT
#53927
On May 01 2013 22:57 Kipsate wrote:
Naix used to be such a small cute ghoul with 3 passives

now he is just a dick.

*press r*
*right click*
*eat sandwich, other team dies*


there werent many counters to magic immunity then either.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
May 01 2013 14:12 GMT
#53928
jeyo as 1 and fear as 5 worked out much better than before. i think eg needs to find a new mid and put demon as 3 or 4.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
May 01 2013 14:15 GMT
#53929
I had just started dota back then. Old naix and old razor were the most noob friendly and "imba" heroes ever.

Fear made a point to convey how upset/unsatisfied he was in that interview. Pretty much directly called out Demon/Bdiz/Maelk, and rightly so. I'm guessing if Bdiz can't resolve his family issues soon and Maelk can't commit more, they're "getting the EG boot". Demon seems like he's finally trying, but he always says he'll do that, so who knows.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 14:35:10
May 01 2013 14:23 GMT
#53930
Enchantress was a pain in early dota.

I'm gonna mess around with skywrath mage as a support.
I've seen many skywrath picks here lately in PH.
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
May 01 2013 14:43 GMT
#53931
You guys think Skywrath has a spot in certain trilanes? Like, Sky + Luna + 1 or Sky + AA (Chilling Touch) + a carry with a snare/disable?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 01 2013 14:44 GMT
#53932
Skywrath is too level (and farm) dependant to work on a trilane imo.
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 14:46:18
May 01 2013 14:44 GMT
#53933
On May 01 2013 23:12 aintz wrote:
jeyo as 1 and fear as 5 worked out much better than before. i think eg needs to find a new mid and put demon as 3 or 4.

the problem is Jeyo only has a limited set of hard carry he can play, also he is the wisp in the tiny wisp combo. I find his naix not as farmed as fear's most of the times and is used as a bomb with Demon's bat.

On May 01 2013 23:44 Kipsate wrote:
Skywrath is too level (and farm) dependant to work on a trilane imo.

I dont know, i think he could be a decent solo mid just like how people ran rubick solo mid in TI2. Mostly depends on how the patch gona change him i guess. I can see his synergy with kotl quite scary.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 14:55:12
May 01 2013 14:52 GMT
#53934
On May 01 2013 23:44 Kipsate wrote:
Skywrath is too level (and farm) dependant to work on a trilane imo.

He has no stuns, has an average slow (at best), and is less effective than silencer in a trilane. He's also, as said, really quite dependent on items and levels. I don't see him as a trilane hero.

Edit: He's also one of the squishiest heroes in the game, which is a big deal for a no stun support.

On May 01 2013 23:44 Kipsate wrote:
Skywrath is too level (and farm) dependant to work on a trilane imo.

I dont know, i think he could be a decent solo mid just like how people ran rubick solo mid in TI2. Mostly depends on how the patch gona change him i guess. I can see his synergy with kotl quite scary.


If left alone, he's one of the best solo vs solo laners in the game. In a bubble, he can beat almost anyone. His problem as a whole is that he's really, really, really vulnerable to any sort of ganking. He could be picked up occasionally if given enough room in the midlane (if the other team has really bad ganking supports, or a lineup that forces the supports to stay near the trilane.

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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 01 2013 14:55 GMT
#53935
I dono, I feel like all his skills are kind of meh, also I don't see the synergy with AA
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 14:58:09
May 01 2013 14:56 GMT
#53936
SM mid I feel is too dependent on rolling the early-mid and snowballing from there because his farm ability is really bad. Even in a fairly decent game he will have a hard time going for Hex as opposed to other strong mid solos such as QoP and Puck (or even Rubick in TI2). On top of that he is really squishy. Putting him mid seems a bit of a high risk medium reward kind of deal (shoutout to Fear), because even if he does well I think other strong mids would contribute just as much if not more, on top of being able to farm gamebreaking items later on.

On the other hand, I can see him work out as a support. His slow has retarded range and is quite strong on level 1, silence is very strong as well, and his spells have good range in general. Not sure if it would be worth it over other top tier supports though.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 01 2013 14:59 GMT
#53937
On May 01 2013 23:56 maru~ wrote:
SM mid I feel is too dependent on rolling the early-mid and snowballing from there because his farm ability is really bad. Even in a fairly decent game he will have a hard time going for Hex as opposed to other strong mid solos such as QoP and Puck (or even Rubick in TI2). On top of that he is really squishy. Putting him mid seems a bit of a high risk medium reward kind of deal (shoutout to Fear), because even if he does well I think other strong mids would contribute just as much if not more, on top of being able to farm gamebreaking items later on.

On the other hand, I can see him work out as a support. His slow has retarded range and is quite strong on level 1, silence is very strong as well, and his spells have good range in general. Not sure if it would be worth it over other top tier supports though.

I would rather have a support with a stun or some such than a slow you can even aim
His silence is good but thats about it
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 01 2013 15:18 GMT
#53938
Yeah, the hero is pretty much near trash can tier atm but we have a patch incoming. Remember how nyx changed post TI2? I think SM is a really fun to watch kinda hero and by no doubt icefrog would like to see him being used more. He is also bug free right now in DotA2 which is amazing if you want to tweak anything.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 01 2013 15:22 GMT
#53939
On May 01 2013 23:43 Yacobs wrote:
You guys think Skywrath has a spot in certain trilanes? Like, Sky + Luna + 1 or Sky + AA (Chilling Touch) + a carry with a snare/disable?

He zones decently (and he's fast) and he has a silence, but he's a lot less dangerous when his 6/11 are late. If he's solo the enemy lives in fear of his killing potential, not os much support.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 15:35:44
May 01 2013 15:32 GMT
#53940
On May 02 2013 00:22 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 23:43 Yacobs wrote:
You guys think Skywrath has a spot in certain trilanes? Like, Sky + Luna + 1 or Sky + AA (Chilling Touch) + a carry with a snare/disable?

He zones decently (and he's fast) and he has a silence, but he's a lot less dangerous when his 6/11 are late. If he's solo the enemy lives in fear of his killing potential, not os much support.


His base armor and base damage are too low to zone decently. You could use bolt, but then you're kinda useless without the slow/silence (which are already weak abilities). Skywrath is also extremely item and level dependent and has no ability to flash farm which makes him a terrible support honestly.

His movespeed is well above average, but it isn't like you can roam with him.
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