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On April 15 2013 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote: Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage. he's trolling the reason enigma and magnus get compared is obvious. They both have very similar roles in the game when it comes to fighting. They're good gankers/teamfighters, probably two of the best in the game. Mag is just better in almost every aspect. He's safer to run, needs less farm, has more utility, and is more reliable. Enigma is a shittier version of mag in almost every way. The only thing they have in common is their ult. Mag is a good 'ganker' if you blow his ult and has no stun/slow before getting his blink. They both need farm, i don't know what make you think that mag needs less farm.
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On April 15 2013 23:19 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote: Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage. he's trolling the reason enigma and magnus get compared is obvious. They both have very similar roles in the game when it comes to fighting. They're good gankers/teamfighters, probably two of the best in the game. Mag is just better in almost every aspect. He's safer to run, needs less farm, has more utility, and is more reliable. Enigma is a shittier version of mag in almost every way. The only thing they have in common is their ult. Mag is a good 'ganker' if you blow his ult and has no stun/slow before getting his blink. They both need farm, i don't know what make you think that mag needs less farm. "only".
These two heroes are pretty much picked up because of their ult. I think they are worthy of comparison, to some extent, Though I would wager Enigma is not picked up as much in part due to Magnus / hero pool, and in other part in that he practically gives nothing to your safelane if the other team chooses to offensive trilane it.
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I think it's because mag without a dagger can still get a half-decent ulti while it's much harder for enigma, at least against a good team
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Enigma eidolons make KOTL happy.
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On April 15 2013 23:22 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 23:19 Erasme wrote:On April 15 2013 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote: Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage. he's trolling the reason enigma and magnus get compared is obvious. They both have very similar roles in the game when it comes to fighting. They're good gankers/teamfighters, probably two of the best in the game. Mag is just better in almost every aspect. He's safer to run, needs less farm, has more utility, and is more reliable. Enigma is a shittier version of mag in almost every way. The only thing they have in common is their ult. Mag is a good 'ganker' if you blow his ult and has no stun/slow before getting his blink. They both need farm, i don't know what make you think that mag needs less farm. "only". These two heroes are pretty much picked up because of their ult. I think they are worthy of comparison, to some extent, Though I would wager Enigma is not picked up as much in part due to Magnus / hero pool, and in other part in that he practically gives nothing to your safelane if the other team chooses to offensive trilane it.
You won't pick an enigma if your safelane sux / they have a potential strong offensive trilane.
Sure you usually wanna pick an enigma just because of black hole, but there are situations where you're in an advantage if an enemy uses a jungler too. Enigma is the fastest jungler, a fast mek on the team adds so very much to the teamfight/push potential and malefice isn't all that weak during the early game where every stun is a plus.
I think he isn't picked as much because metagame has shifted from 4-1 to other stuff and not because of mag.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
VG vs iG + LGD in game now ZSMJ on SF !
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There are better choices and he is countered too easily these days. Rubick screws him over pretty hard too.
Also is cogs meant to burn mana when magic immune oO?
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United States47024 Posts
On April 15 2013 23:55 Benjef wrote: Also is cogs meant to burn mana when magic immune oO? Yes, they do this in DotA 1. Magic immunity only blocks the damage.
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On April 16 2013 00:02 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 23:55 Benjef wrote: Also is cogs meant to burn mana when magic immune oO? Yes, they do this in DotA 1. Magic immunity only blocks the damage. Ah, came to shock to me yesterday went playing as Naix. Still learning things about this game after playing it for nearly 4 years now...
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On April 16 2013 00:05 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 00:02 TheYango wrote:On April 15 2013 23:55 Benjef wrote: Also is cogs meant to burn mana when magic immune oO? Yes, they do this in DotA 1. Magic immunity only blocks the damage. Ah, came to shock to me yesterday went playing as Naix. Still learning things about this game after playing it for nearly 4 years now... I see what you did there...
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an am named Kiante is wrecking LGDint stack right now
wat a player
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On April 16 2013 00:11 Klonere wrote: an am named Kiante is wrecking LGDint stack right now
wat a player
Well, Kiante is known for being no-fun.
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On April 16 2013 00:11 Klonere wrote: an am named Kiante is wrecking LGDint stack right now
wat a player Interesting... (since Kiante is Australian or something).
I'm sure he would let us know if he were wrecking the stack
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Does he say 'fuck' a lot? If so, definitely Kiante.
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SEA server with 400 ping wtf.
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So we have to wait up to april 26? Damn.
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