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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 15 2013 08:25 GMT
#51681
It is not a drama at all when you try to swap the places of EG and aL, so if that was EG one game ahead and have some arguably significant lead in game2, aL dc'ed and call for a postpone/remake, would EG say yes? No way.

And that has nothing to do with G1/chinese/russian/green people hosted tournament.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 15 2013 09:13 GMT
#51682
im so tired of people trying to compare mag and enigma
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 15 2013 09:17 GMT
#51683
Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 15 2013 11:21 GMT
#51684
On April 15 2013 16:57 Erasme wrote:
I am more disappointed by the reaction of many tler


I'm more disappointed Fear is still stuck with them
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 15 2013 12:01 GMT
#51685
On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote:
Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle

Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 15 2013 12:46 GMT
#51686
On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote:
Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle

Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage.

Dont eat into the oldschool circle jerk joke. Carrying power is irrelevant on both Mag and enigma and its a waste of time discussing such.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:56:13
April 15 2013 12:53 GMT
#51687
Ty NB
On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote:
Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle

Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/173301780
http://dotabuff.com/matches/166502522
http://dotabuff.com/matches/162253659

Skip blackhole and pulse, get full conversion + malefice then stats. soulring/midas/shadowblade then start killing people. You can also gank, but only if its a sure kill.
Don't do this if you really want to improve tho

On April 15 2013 20:21 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:57 Erasme wrote:
I am more disappointed by the reaction of many tler


I'm more disappointed Fear is still stuck with them

I agree that Fear is the best player on EG, but i think they mainly lack early game chemistry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 15 2013 13:31 GMT
#51688
This DDOSsing is getting so ridiculous. T_T
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 15 2013 13:37 GMT
#51689
On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote:
Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle

Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage.


he's trolling

the reason enigma and magnus get compared is obvious. They both have very similar roles in the game when it comes to fighting. They're good gankers/teamfighters, probably two of the best in the game. Mag is just better in almost every aspect. He's safer to run, needs less farm, has more utility, and is more reliable. Enigma is a shittier version of mag in almost every way.


NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 15 2013 13:39 GMT
#51690
lol, apparently one of the image in chat said the ddos guy has 20k(key or 1000$?) bet on qpad. Tbh if its USD, i could understand where he come from. Man i almost bite my tongue watching Select pulling radiant small camp at 53 >.>... Clearly lack of practice and experience.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 15 2013 13:41 GMT
#51691
On April 15 2013 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:
On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote:
Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle

Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage.


he's trolling

the reason enigma and magnus get compared is obvious. They both have very similar roles in the game when it comes to fighting. They're good gankers/teamfighters, probably two of the best in the game. Mag is just better in almost every aspect. He's safer to run, needs less farm, has more utility, and is more reliable. Enigma is a shittier version of mag in almost every way.



But his ability to jungle does make them different, and not directly comparable right?

Though I would point out I am mainly playing Devils Advocate at this point :3
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
April 15 2013 13:43 GMT
#51692
Yeah Select is let's say at most AVERAGE and he's the weakest link of QPANDAS. Don't know why they've picked him tbh.
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
April 15 2013 13:51 GMT
#51693
Oh, this again.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 15 2013 13:52 GMT
#51694
Just in case some people missed this:

[image loading]

Please save us Valve!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 15 2013 13:53 GMT
#51695
On April 15 2013 22:52 BurningSera wrote:
Just in case some people missed this:

[image loading]

Please save us Valve!


But it was a fun joke.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 15 2013 13:55 GMT
#51696
On April 15 2013 22:53 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:52 BurningSera wrote:
Just in case some people missed this:

[image loading]

Please save us Valve!


But it was a fun joke.


it is a nice joke from these amazing players! Such a shitty day because games are ruined
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 15 2013 13:55 GMT
#51697
On April 15 2013 22:41 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:01 Zealos wrote:
On April 15 2013 18:17 Erasme wrote:
Enigma is a much harder carry and can jungle

Harder carry? Though the jungling aspect is important, not to mention if you can get a midnight pulse on top of the black hole it can do a tonne of damage.


he's trolling

the reason enigma and magnus get compared is obvious. They both have very similar roles in the game when it comes to fighting. They're good gankers/teamfighters, probably two of the best in the game. Mag is just better in almost every aspect. He's safer to run, needs less farm, has more utility, and is more reliable. Enigma is a shittier version of mag in almost every way.



But his ability to jungle does make them different, and not directly comparable right?

Though I would point out I am mainly playing Devils Advocate at this point :3


not really. Enigma can lane too, and he's a great laner. In fact the most recent games I've seen him played, he's been laned (by LGD in mid and a couple other teams as well, in the offlane or even solo safe lane)

Just because he can jungle it doesn't change his role in the game. Enigma's and Magnus's roles are practically the same: in a teamfight, (initiate,) disable the enemy and do as much damage as possible before dying. In the game as a whole, farm your core and go around ganking and pushing/counterpushing. The only real difference is the execution and effectiveness of the two heroes.

In fact, I think putting enigma in the jungle can actually weaken your team. Sure, you get someone else in mid or the offlane, but you lack the option of a trilane. Trilanes are probably the most important facet of play atm IMO. You can't run enigma like chen or enchantress either, so dual roam gets thrown out too.

Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 15 2013 14:14 GMT
#51698
Wait, were more games ruined by DDOS? Are they even worth watching the VODS?
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 14:16:07
April 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#51699
On April 15 2013 23:14 Comeh wrote:
Wait, were more games ruined by DDOS? Are they even worth watching the VODS?


Empire vs Kaipi g2 was "ruined" by DDOS but the result is impressive given the circumstances. Watch that for sure, skip over pauses.

But yes, the rest of the games are pretty much just long-ass pauses.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
April 15 2013 14:16 GMT
#51700
On April 15 2013 23:14 Comeh wrote:
Wait, were more games ruined by DDOS? Are they even worth watching the VODS?

postponed
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