EPTholy fuck is this the true potential of alchemist?
20mins heart bfury treads midas, 2x net worth of a phantom lancer?
holy fuckkkkkkk
1129 gpm in a pro game
what the
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
holy fuck is this the true potential of alchemist? 20mins heart bfury treads midas, 2x net worth of a phantom lancer? holy fuckkkkkkk 1129 gpm in a pro game what the | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
Man, im playing on 8fps everygame above 40 mins now QQ.... really need to know how to fix this  | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On March 31 2013 02:44 NB wrote: not that we have never seen that before.... Mouz had a similar official game with black 1k+ gpm. Man, im playing on 8fps everygame above 40 mins now QQ.... really need to know how to fix this is it the Nvidia issue? I'm on GT530 and no problems whatsoever :< | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On March 31 2013 02:52 cecek wrote: I don't get why more people don't make a battlefury on Alchemist. Seriously, the shadowblade rush, that's done all the time, seems like such a waste. With battlefury, he's the fastest farmer in the game. No competition at all, he shits all over antimage farming the jungle. He's more easily ganked, that's the only downside. It's also much better than midas, which is just a static gold increase, whereas battlefury multiplies how many creeps you can kill per minute (which synergizes with greed). | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 31 2013 02:52 cecek wrote: I don't get why more people don't make a battlefury on Alchemist. Seriously, the shadowblade rush, that's done all the time, seems like such a waste. With battlefury, he's the fastest farmer in the game. No competition at all, he shits all over antimage farming the jungle. He's more easily ganked, that's the only downside. Because games that allow you to get a farming item first and farm out the game are the exception rather than the rule. Shadow blade is chosen because Alchemist is an effective midgame gank hero, and Shadow Blade suits that. Battle Fury obviously feels better in a game where you can get away with it, but that isn't commonly the case. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On March 31 2013 02:15 konadora wrote: i missed out mith-trust vs mufc.. holy fuck is this the true potential of alchemist? 20mins heart bfury treads midas, 2x net worth of a phantom lancer? holy fuckkkkkkk 1129 gpm in a pro game what the Vods??!?! | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On March 31 2013 02:56 igotmyown wrote: It's also much better than midas, which is just a static gold increase, whereas battlefury multiplies how many creeps you can kill per minute (which synergizes with greed). misconception tbh. Like with medusa, i could clear jungle as fast as AM if not faster, sadly i cant move from camp to camp fast enough. Same with lane creep, you can kill them as fast as you want but only 4 spawn per wave plus Bfury pushing the lane out, expose your carry to enemy ganks. Midas on the other hand is cheaper and has much earlier impact into farming, give you a huge bonus exp(which is pretty damn important on hard carry). Its not to say 1 item is better than the other but they should all be considered situational. Look at Loda doom with the naked vlad rush o.O | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On March 31 2013 03:34 NB wrote: misconception tbh. Like with medusa, i could clear jungle as fast as AM if not faster, sadly i cant move from camp to camp fast enough. Same with lane creep, you can kill them as fast as you want but only 4 spawn per wave plus Bfury pushing the lane out, expose your carry to enemy ganks. Midas on the other hand is cheaper and has much earlier impact into farming, give you a huge bonus exp(which is pretty damn important on hard carry). Its not to say 1 item is better than the other but they should all be considered situational. Look at Loda doom with the naked vlad rush o.O This is generally true, however, Alchemist is the exception to the rule. Because killing creeps faster is better than gold / creep with him, he really benefits from items like maelstrom and batttlefury. However, like Yango said, it really becomes more of a "can I actually get away with this, or do I need midgame strength?" In the current trends the game is being played, its midgame strength. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On March 31 2013 03:37 Comeh wrote: This is generally true, however, Alchemist is the exception to the rule. Because killing creeps faster is better than gold / creep with him, he really benefits from items like maelstrom and batttlefury. However, like Yango said, it really becomes more of a "can I actually get away with this, or do I need midgame strength?" In the current trends the game is being played, its midgame strength. Im not gona do the math, reinstalling dota2 atm. The point is midas comes in much earlier and doesnt push out lanes like Bfury does. Given a free farm alchemist i think you can clear creeps fast enough for the greevil greed bonus to last. Not even counting the fact that you could rush Bfury relatively fast with going midas first(may be 2 mins different?). damn things are really hard to calculate with alchemist bc it is different from game to game. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On March 31 2013 03:37 Comeh wrote: This is generally true, however, Alchemist is the exception to the rule. Because killing creeps faster is better than gold / creep with him, he really benefits from items like maelstrom and batttlefury. However, like Yango said, it really becomes more of a "can I actually get away with this, or do I need midgame strength?" In the current trends the game is being played, its midgame strength. In western DotA? Absolutely, you can get away with it. A good 75% of games I see is a mid hero, carry farming the easy lane, and the remaining 3 heroes are pulling/farming the jungle. You can absolutely get away with a battlefury on Alchemist in that setup, if you max greed you should have it around 10 minutes, easily. I still see many players go for a shadowblade in this setup and not do anything with it. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
to an extent, this cecek guy knows man | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On March 31 2013 09:40 FinestHour wrote: When will people understand?? You need the best players on supports, not mid!! Mid players just spam down waves, refill bottles and farm, supports make the game happen. Pro games are not pubs, where the best player takes mid. to an extent, this cecek guy knows man FH going full time support @2013! | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
1v1 earthshaker mid right now | ||
TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On March 31 2013 10:12 FinestHour wrote: how dare you speak that way to a liquid pasture community league champion player 1v1 earthshaker mid right now Well to be fair, being on that team doesn't make you good. I was technically on it standing in for 3 games, so point proven  + Show Spoiler + jkjk. Finesthour is pro | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
also maybe rabid 'realniggapinoydota' ch | ||
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Bahamas15899 Posts
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United States378 Posts
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