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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 27 2013 19:52 GMT
#49361
On March 28 2013 04:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Unless ur solo mid (and you shouldn't be with morph these days) the 400HP wraith band build is predicated on being in a safe lane with 1 or more supports to zone your opponents. Fighting for lasthits usually shouldn't be a huge issue.

More dmg is always better though.

Pros miss last hits all the time, especially under the tower. A little bit of help for your average player can be big.



Anyway, FUCK YEAH TREANT, BEST HERO IN THE GAME.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 20:06:17
March 27 2013 20:05 GMT
#49362
On March 28 2013 04:52 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 04:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Unless ur solo mid (and you shouldn't be with morph these days) the 400HP wraith band build is predicated on being in a safe lane with 1 or more supports to zone your opponents. Fighting for lasthits usually shouldn't be a huge issue.

More dmg is always better though.

Pros miss last hits all the time, especially under the tower. A little bit of help for your average player can be big.



Anyway, FUCK YEAH TREANT, BEST HERO IN THE GAME.


Even if you were a perfect player you'd miss last hits under the tower. The tower does random damage (as well as your hero) so it is literally impossible to get all the last hits under the tower. Having 65 damage at level one puts you at a crucial threshold that makes last hitting far more probable. Morphling has a relatively big damage spread though so bad luck is still going to make you miss last hits.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 27 2013 20:07 GMT
#49363
You think morph has a big spread you should check out CK lmao

(yes I know you said relatively, I'm just laughing at the 49-79 damage range he starts with).
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
March 27 2013 20:08 GMT
#49364
On March 28 2013 05:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 04:52 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Unless ur solo mid (and you shouldn't be with morph these days) the 400HP wraith band build is predicated on being in a safe lane with 1 or more supports to zone your opponents. Fighting for lasthits usually shouldn't be a huge issue.

More dmg is always better though.

Pros miss last hits all the time, especially under the tower. A little bit of help for your average player can be big.



Anyway, FUCK YEAH TREANT, BEST HERO IN THE GAME.


Even if you were a perfect player you'd miss last hits under the tower. The tower does random damage (as well as your hero) so it is literally impossible to get all the last hits under the tower. Having 65 damage at level one puts you at a crucial threshold that makes last hitting far more probable. Morphling has a relatively big damage spread though so bad luck is still going to make you miss last hits.

Didn't flamewheel make a guide about last hitting under tower?
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 27 2013 20:09 GMT
#49365
On March 28 2013 05:08 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:52 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Unless ur solo mid (and you shouldn't be with morph these days) the 400HP wraith band build is predicated on being in a safe lane with 1 or more supports to zone your opponents. Fighting for lasthits usually shouldn't be a huge issue.

More dmg is always better though.

Pros miss last hits all the time, especially under the tower. A little bit of help for your average player can be big.



Anyway, FUCK YEAH TREANT, BEST HERO IN THE GAME.


Even if you were a perfect player you'd miss last hits under the tower. The tower does random damage (as well as your hero) so it is literally impossible to get all the last hits under the tower. Having 65 damage at level one puts you at a crucial threshold that makes last hitting far more probable. Morphling has a relatively big damage spread though so bad luck is still going to make you miss last hits.

Didn't flamewheel make a guide about last hitting under tower?

Yes

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375120
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 27 2013 20:13 GMT
#49366
On March 28 2013 05:09 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:08 kollin wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:52 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Unless ur solo mid (and you shouldn't be with morph these days) the 400HP wraith band build is predicated on being in a safe lane with 1 or more supports to zone your opponents. Fighting for lasthits usually shouldn't be a huge issue.

More dmg is always better though.

Pros miss last hits all the time, especially under the tower. A little bit of help for your average player can be big.



Anyway, FUCK YEAH TREANT, BEST HERO IN THE GAME.


Even if you were a perfect player you'd miss last hits under the tower. The tower does random damage (as well as your hero) so it is literally impossible to get all the last hits under the tower. Having 65 damage at level one puts you at a crucial threshold that makes last hitting far more probable. Morphling has a relatively big damage spread though so bad luck is still going to make you miss last hits.

Didn't flamewheel make a guide about last hitting under tower?

Yes

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375120

I wish I had read this 5 months ago.

Fuck me I guess.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 27 2013 20:14 GMT
#49367
On March 28 2013 05:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
You think morph has a big spread you should check out CK lmao

(yes I know you said relatively, I'm just laughing at the 49-79 damage range he starts with).

That's like the point of CK though. Pray to the RNG gods. Large damage spreads on heroes like Lina are just weird.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 27 2013 20:22 GMT
#49368
On March 28 2013 05:14 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
You think morph has a big spread you should check out CK lmao

(yes I know you said relatively, I'm just laughing at the 49-79 damage range he starts with).

That's like the point of CK though. Pray to the RNG gods. Large damage spreads on heroes like Lina are just weird.


Yeah but last-hitting is really not when you want to be praying to RNG gods haha. I do understand that it is like that on purpose. To be fair, his damage floor is high enough that he shouldn't miss many lasthits anyways, but it makes it really awkward to set up lasthits under tower.
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 27 2013 20:23 GMT
#49369
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=79951


Update Notes - March 27, 2013
- Added Bristleback!

GAMEPLAY
- Broodmother: Fixed Insatiable Hunger cooldown on level 1 and 3.
- Dragon Knight: Fixed Dragon Blood armor bonus not carrying over to Illusions.
- Dragon Knight: Fixed Elder Dragon Form frost slow getting dispelled when target initially becomes Magic Immune.
- Doom: Fixed Doom damage being blocked by Pipe.
- Enchantress: Fixed Nature's Attendants lasting 1 second less than intended.
- Huskar: Fixed Life Break leap moving too fast.
- Magnus: Fixed Shockwave hitting units behind you.
- Mirana: Fixed Mirana's Leap range being slightly too short.
- Nyx Assassin: Fixed Impale traveling too far.
- Phantom Lancer: Fixed being able to have 1 juxtapose illusion too many
- Razor: Fixed Static Link break range being 25 too short.
- Shadow Shaman: Fixed Shackles doing a little less damage than intended.
- Slark: Fixed Pounce not initiating an attack order on the leashed target.
- Templar Assassin: Fixed Meld buff getting dispelled.
- Visage: Fixed Familiars not getting affected by Chronosphere.
- Weaver: Fixed being The Swarm units being unable to Latch onto sleeping units.
- Weaver: Fixed The Swarm getting permanently dispelled if the enemy is invulnerable .
- Weaver: Fixed the Swarm units not doing their initial attack immediately upon latching.
- Added Psuedo Random chance for Roshan's Bash.
- Fixed Eye of Skadi frost slow getting dispelled when target initially becomes Magic Immune.
- Fixed Diffusal Blade proccing multiple damage instances.
- Fixed heroes flickering on the minimap when walking by Sentry Wards while under Smoke of Deceit.

UI
- Pausing in a practice or tournament game now prevents the team that paused from querying units, moving the camera or accessing the shop.
- Added ability and item notes, detailed tooltips that will display only if ALT is pressed.
- Adjusted Replay Highlight scene leadin time a bit.
- Arcane Boots now has 'mana' as a shop alias.
- Wisp name change to Io.
- Added 10 second rewind button to replay controls.
- Spectator Items panel now takes up less space and shows items ordered by value.
- Steam friends can be added, removed, and friendship requests confirmed/ignored from within Dota 2.

VISUALS
- New Vengeful Spirit model.
- Added in-game models for when the following items are dropped from inventory into the world: Gem of True Sight, Observer Wards, and Sentry Wards.

BOTS
- Added Bounty Hunter bot.
- Significantly revised how Roam mode works.

AUDIO
- Revised Beastmaster's voice.

DOTA 2 STORE
- Added the Treasure Key of the Cursed Wood and the Treasure Key of the Shaper Divine.
- Several old keys have returned to the store along with a very low drop rate for some older community chests.
- The current set of community crates will no longer expire, but their drop rate will be decreased over time and their rarity increased over time.
- Added new sets for Brewmaster, Lich, Riki, Juggernaut, Beastmaster, and Spectre.
- Added a couple new couriers!
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 27 2013 20:23 GMT
#49370
bristleback getting added soon. guess there's reason to play again
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
March 27 2013 20:25 GMT
#49371
Bristleback IS OUT!

+ Show Spoiler +
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"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 27 2013 20:25 GMT
#49372
Well, one of my friends might play dota again. BRISTLE's BACK BABY
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 27 2013 20:27 GMT
#49373
"- Pausing in a practice or tournament game now prevents the team that paused from querying units, moving the camera or accessing the shop."

that was quick
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 27 2013 20:28 GMT
#49374
fixed diffusal multiple damage instances,

huh.
WriterXiao8~~
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
March 27 2013 20:28 GMT
#49375
- Wisp name change to Io.

I usually call him Io, but still. Valve is fucking weird.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 27 2013 20:29 GMT
#49376
Wait ANOTHER venge remodel? or have we known about this one for a while?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 27 2013 20:29 GMT
#49377
Holy fudge Bristleback!

And lol at Wisp being changed to Io.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 27 2013 20:30 GMT
#49378
On March 28 2013 05:28 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Wisp name change to Io.

I usually call him Io, but still. Valve is fucking weird.

Maybe they were eating some wildwings when they changed Wildkin to Wildwings lol.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 27 2013 20:31 GMT
#49379
On March 28 2013 05:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Wait ANOTHER venge remodel? or have we known about this one for a while?

Its the same one we knew about, its just finally being implemented
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 27 2013 20:33 GMT
#49380
Changing Wisp's name kinda makes sense. Even though wisp is a common name, he did look almost exactly like WC3's wisp.

They should make Venge throw herself at enemies instead of messing with her model.
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