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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
March 27 2013 00:34 GMT
#49261
Omni was very popular pre TI1, also as solo mid. For whatever reason he phased out, despite recieving not a single nerf since that time - it's even the opposite, he only recieved buffs. It's all about trends. I think he's still viable as a hero in general, maybe even solo mid. It's all about re-discovering him.
Yeah his animations are very slow / detailed, but that's always been like that, also in wc3 DotA.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 27 2013 00:51 GMT
#49262
On March 27 2013 09:34 Talron wrote:
Omni was very popular pre TI1, also as solo mid. For whatever reason he phased out, despite recieving not a single nerf since that time - it's even the opposite, he only recieved buffs. It's all about trends. I think he's still viable as a hero in general, maybe even solo mid. It's all about re-discovering him.
Yeah his animations are very slow / detailed, but that's always been like that, also in wc3 DotA.

???

Omniknight wasn't in DotA 2 until after TI1. If you're taking DotA 1, Omni wasn't popular at all in 6.72, at least not in Chinese play (and Western DotA 1 was barely relevant by the time of TI1).
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 27 2013 00:57 GMT
#49263
if omni got the buffs that his hon counterpart got, he would be a great hero.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#49264
Well, it doesn't help that purification is something like ~24 radius smaller than in dota 1.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#49265
I just played a dota1 game while steam down. Cannot wait to see people reaction on Skywrath lolllll that aoe laguna blade with 20s cd along with 3 effectively spells that are very useful throughout a game, almost like a child of silencer X lina.

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or, er...silencer X lion....
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#49266
On March 27 2013 09:34 Talron wrote:
Omni was very popular pre TI1, also as solo mid. For whatever reason he phased out, despite recieving not a single nerf since that time - it's even the opposite, he only recieved buffs. It's all about trends. I think he's still viable as a hero in general, maybe even solo mid. It's all about re-discovering him.
Yeah his animations are very slow / detailed, but that's always been like that, also in wc3 DotA.


Pretty sure it was Fear who explained why people stopped playing him (the first time). When EG went to China, their experience was that winning the lanes was more important than anything else. Better laning meant a better midgame which meant a better chance of winning. Omniknight, used in that style, did very little to help a team win lanes and against the better laning picks popular in China was basically a conceded middle lane.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
March 27 2013 01:12 GMT
#49267
Playing against razor in a game and he goes static link in early game on alchemist which he has 68 damage and he drained 196 damage from him. Is this normal or bug?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
March 27 2013 01:13 GMT
#49268
On March 27 2013 10:12 SkelA wrote:
Playing against razor in a game and he goes static link in early game on alchemist which he has 68 damage and he drained 196 damage from him. Is this normal or bug?


its normal. your attacks will actually heal your enemy. weird you didnt notice
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
March 27 2013 01:17 GMT
#49269
That should be fixed lol . You cant steal more damage than you already have -_-

I was playing puck that game and going phase shift does nothing to static link ...
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
March 27 2013 01:20 GMT
#49270
On March 27 2013 10:17 SkelA wrote:
That should be fixed lol . You cant steal more damage than you already have -_-

I was playing puck that game and going phase shift does nothing to static link ...

Aside from moving out of range I don't think there's a way to break static link. BKB and linkens don't work, nor do any of the disruption / phase shift esque. Maybe ghost scepter does? but I doubt it...
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BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 01:27:29
March 27 2013 01:24 GMT
#49271
If you're playing a game where you can get a kotl, a midlane, and a solo hard lane, you could last pick omni and trilane with kotl omni and a carry and do quite well.

Other than that circumstance it's hard to pick omni because he's melee and a support, so if you put him in a dual lane with a carry it'll be basically a useless lane, and he doesn't gain too much from being solo and can't gank effectively.

That said, omni is probably the most annoying hero ever to team fight against, and if you can't get a diffusal whichever carry he decides to repel will own your face.
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
March 27 2013 01:33 GMT
#49272
On March 27 2013 08:53 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
demon was level 1 at like 8 minutes, eventually giving up and leeching xp off mid. Effective use of omniknight? probably not...

I think he's better off in the jungle, he could stack small and medium creeps 3 times, then kill them with heal.


I've tried this and it doesn't really seem to work. Purification is too expensive and too weak at level 1. And if you get the healing creep in the small camp you're just fucked. If you're talking about pulling so you can actually get some levels before clearing stacks that might be a different story.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 01:37:19
March 27 2013 01:34 GMT
#49273
On March 27 2013 10:13 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:12 SkelA wrote:
Playing against razor in a game and he goes static link in early game on alchemist which he has 68 damage and he drained 196 damage from him. Is this normal or bug?


its normal. your attacks will actually heal your enemy. weird you didnt notice

I'm certain that Razor can't make his opponent's attacks heal. He can steal more than they have, but then he just gets bonus damage while they stay at an effective 0.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 27 2013 01:39 GMT
#49274
You just fell into a sarchasm!
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 27 2013 01:45 GMT
#49275
apparently nyx doesn't lose invis when he attacks an aegis to deny it
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
March 27 2013 01:54 GMT
#49276
On March 27 2013 10:45 flamewheel wrote:
apparently nyx doesn't lose invis when he attacks an aegis to deny it


sounds like nyx
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 02:17:22
March 27 2013 02:05 GMT
#49277
On March 27 2013 10:45 flamewheel wrote:
apparently nyx doesn't lose invis when he attacks an aegis to deny it

As expected of Nyx.


I liked the Omni Storm combo which was used occasionally a long time ago. Add a KotL for good measure. Omni's laning issue remains though and Storm's laning isn't too great either.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 27 2013 02:10 GMT
#49278
On March 27 2013 10:45 flamewheel wrote:
apparently nyx doesn't lose invis when he attacks an aegis to deny it


nyx can also repurchase the aforementioned aegis by reactivating his ult
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
March 27 2013 02:24 GMT
#49279
On March 27 2013 10:54 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:45 flamewheel wrote:
apparently nyx doesn't lose invis when he attacks an aegis to deny it


sounds like nyx


Nyx gots to Nyx.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 27 2013 02:55 GMT
#49280
today is BurNIng's birthday
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