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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
March 15 2013 03:46 GMT
#47721
On March 15 2013 11:52 ViZe wrote:
Guys is sheep an ok pickup on BH? There was a void who was pretty big and didn't have bkb so I decided to get it and my team just started shitting on me


If he didn't have MKB either, get Halberd
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wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
March 15 2013 03:48 GMT
#47722
well you do see Hex as a situational item on Ursa (suggestions)
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 15 2013 03:56 GMT
#47723
atos, sheep on ursa are all pretty good
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 15 2013 04:09 GMT
#47724
On March 15 2013 12:46 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 11:52 ViZe wrote:
Guys is sheep an ok pickup on BH? There was a void who was pretty big and didn't have bkb so I decided to get it and my team just started shitting on me


If he didn't have MKB either, get Halberd


Pretty much this was what I was thinking, though not sure if maim stacks with jinada. Either way it gives you a bit of survivability and disarm which is good provided you're not in the chrono.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 15 2013 04:27 GMT
#47725
On March 15 2013 12:48 wairai wrote:
well you do see Hex as a situational item on Ursa (suggestions)

Hex is much better than "situational" on Ursa. It's quite typical as a 3rd or 4th item.
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Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
March 15 2013 04:54 GMT
#47726
A little bit of theorycrafting: what do you guys think about Batrider in an aggresive trilane? Napalm can provide a lot of control, especially with the turn rate slow it gives, and Bat does a ton of damage with firefly, especially if there's stun/slows from the other members of your trilane. Plus, he's got quite good base str and str gain, meaning that he's harder to nuke down than something like a weaver.

I do feel that he's one of the strongest solo laners out there, but if your team is running a magnus and clinkz or something, I think it would be better as a whole to have an aggro trilane bat rather than a safe lane 1v1.
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 15 2013 04:59 GMT
#47727
Fucking Valve and their fucking patches. First game I play today the game decides to disconnect me and then says the server isn't available. I think it's my connection, but no, everything else is working perfectly.

Could we get a patch JUST ONCE that doesn't crash the game? Pretty please?
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
March 15 2013 05:18 GMT
#47728
Last night when I was trying to rejoin the last game of VP - Empire, DH Invitational, the game was about to end and as a result Dota2 crashed.

But hearing about all these crashes makes me nervous about starting the game.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 15 2013 05:19 GMT
#47729
On March 15 2013 13:54 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
A little bit of theorycrafting: what do you guys think about Batrider in an aggresive trilane? Napalm can provide a lot of control, especially with the turn rate slow it gives, and Bat does a ton of damage with firefly, especially if there's stun/slows from the other members of your trilane. Plus, he's got quite good base str and str gain, meaning that he's harder to nuke down than something like a weaver.

I do feel that he's one of the strongest solo laners out there, but if your team is running a magnus and clinkz or something, I think it would be better as a whole to have an aggro trilane bat rather than a safe lane 1v1.

Imo no. Triple magic stick plus a massive number of nuke + lockdown simply are the strongest counter to batrider in the game. Plus he needs level for mid game gank and without level, he wont be able to afford to spam out napalm in lane. Its would be better if you run bat jungle than and offensive trilane.
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 15 2013 05:44 GMT
#47730
On March 15 2013 14:19 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 13:54 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
A little bit of theorycrafting: what do you guys think about Batrider in an aggresive trilane? Napalm can provide a lot of control, especially with the turn rate slow it gives, and Bat does a ton of damage with firefly, especially if there's stun/slows from the other members of your trilane. Plus, he's got quite good base str and str gain, meaning that he's harder to nuke down than something like a weaver.

I do feel that he's one of the strongest solo laners out there, but if your team is running a magnus and clinkz or something, I think it would be better as a whole to have an aggro trilane bat rather than a safe lane 1v1.

Imo no. Triple magic stick plus a massive number of nuke + lockdown simply are the strongest counter to batrider in the game. Plus he needs level for mid game gank and without level, he wont be able to afford to spam out napalm in lane. Its would be better if you run bat jungle than and offensive trilane.


Cannot agree more. Yes, lvl 1 a bat seems a great option but as soon as there is time to pick up magic sticks in the trilane, bat becomes useless. In mid, the awesomeness that is firefly outweighs the benefit of a fast magic stick. 150 instant hp+mana isn't enough when you are getting burned for that much damage in ~2-3 seconds (not to count bats auto attacks). A bit part of batriders laning capability is being able to stack 2-3 napalms then just run over someone. If you face even one stun then you can't do that at all and just get killed.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#47731
So what's the right way to play night stalker?

I usually up the nuke and passive and only up the silence after I max out on other two but I get yelled at in pubs :/

I also get yelled at for not staying in my lane during night wtf?
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 15 2013 05:51 GMT
#47732
I usually don't take silence until it hits night time. One level isn't bad before level 8. And you should definitely roam at night time, just don't make it obvious and camp when they know you're there. Tp ganking is also extremely effective and you should always try to carry a tp during night time.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 15 2013 05:56 GMT
#47733
On March 15 2013 14:46 haduken wrote:
So what's the right way to play night stalker?

I usually up the nuke and passive and only up the silence after I max out on other two but I get yelled at in pubs :/

I also get yelled at for not staying in my lane during night wtf?

Depends, but IMO NS should get at least one point in Silence, particularly against a team with any sort of escape.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 15 2013 05:58 GMT
#47734
On March 15 2013 14:46 haduken wrote:
So what's the right way to play night stalker?

I usually up the nuke and passive and only up the silence after I max out on other two but I get yelled at in pubs :/

I also get yelled at for not staying in my lane during night wtf?

I suggest one point of silence. Its really strong with just one point in it
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
March 15 2013 05:58 GMT
#47735
On March 15 2013 14:46 haduken wrote:
So what's the right way to play night stalker?

I usually up the nuke and passive and only up the silence after I max out on other two but I get yelled at in pubs :/

I also get yelled at for not staying in my lane during night wtf?


ferrari gets one point in silence at level 2. i would just stick to that
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
March 15 2013 06:22 GMT
#47736
Since the passive is absolutely useless until night time, I usually either get silence level 2 (if I know I will need it in lane on short notice), or only level nuke and level silence/passive as per the situations requirements.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 15 2013 06:39 GMT
#47737
On March 15 2013 15:22 RockIronrod wrote:
Since the passive is absolutely useless until night time, I usually either get silence level 2 (if I know I will need it in lane on short notice), or only level nuke and level silence/passive as per the situations requirements.

the point of getting the passive before nighttime is so that when nighttime comes you can immediately start ganking
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Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
March 15 2013 06:42 GMT
#47738
Thunderhammer sound finally stopped sucking \o/
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 15 2013 07:07 GMT
#47739
is this really being debated
just get silence at 2, its not like theres anything better to put it in
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 15 2013 07:32 GMT
#47740


macro or legit player
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