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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 12 2013 22:01 GMT
#47341
On March 13 2013 06:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 06:47 Iplaythings wrote:
Now while we're at it, lets hate at gyro (because why not)

cus that copter does waay too fucking much damage with that rocket barrage !


I don't hate gyro. I think he is pretty darn good in this patch and maybe he deserves some nerfs but I don't hate him. Shooting ALL the zombies is fun (aka screw undying I'm glad somebody rapes him )

Fun factor: High (flying red thingie is allways awesome, valve could make some fun skins for that)

But dammit, it feels like rocket barrage + call down is more damage than luna with eclipse + luscent beam.
In the woods, there lurks..
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 12 2013 22:14 GMT
#47342
On March 13 2013 07:01 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 06:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
On March 13 2013 06:47 Iplaythings wrote:
Now while we're at it, lets hate at gyro (because why not)

cus that copter does waay too fucking much damage with that rocket barrage !


I don't hate gyro. I think he is pretty darn good in this patch and maybe he deserves some nerfs but I don't hate him. Shooting ALL the zombies is fun (aka screw undying I'm glad somebody rapes him )

Fun factor: High (flying red thingie is allways awesome, valve could make some fun skins for that)

But dammit, it feels like rocket barrage + call down is more damage than luna with eclipse + luscent beam.

It's more consistent, spread out damage, and is not situational whether there are creeps / summons around. It always does its damage.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
March 12 2013 22:24 GMT
#47343
It doesn't have the 'lol u diving me mate? good luck bro' factor that eclipse does though.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 12 2013 22:27 GMT
#47344
I don't get the commotion.
Gyro is fine. At least I don't think he should even be considered for a nerf.
He has 1 lackluster skill, homing missile. I don't think anyone will disagree that you don't need to max homing missile and you could get away with only putting 1 point in it.
While flak cannon gives him an attack against everything in range, its limited to 6 attacks per cooldown.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 22:51:05
March 12 2013 22:50 GMT
#47345
On March 13 2013 06:00 TheYango wrote:
All of those are analogous to Luna's counterpart skills. It's just that the specific advantages Gyro has over Luna favor pick-offs and Xv1s, while Luna's specific advantages favor 5-man pushing/teamfighting.

Just a note. I think we've seen luna die down a LOT in china. G-league finals, both teams quite prominent with Luna but she wasn't picked or banned ONCE during the entire series I believe.

Also, although rocket barrage can do great damage, it puts you at extreme risk because of the range. And considering gyro has no escape mechanisms and without bkb early on you can get focused easily.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 12 2013 22:55 GMT
#47346
I'm pretty sure I remember seeing her banned in second phase along with LD but I was feverish at the time.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
March 12 2013 22:57 GMT
#47347
A skill not requiring more than 1 point makes it a pretty good skill in my book. It's not as if I'm arguing that he's broken. However, Homing missile is far from a downside.
Never make a hydralisk.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 12 2013 23:01 GMT
#47348
Putting more points into homing in some 1v1 matchups is very strong. Its debatable if it's worth it over the extra levels in flak/barrage (his farming abilities), but in pub games its very strong. My comment is that having the option of a strong laning ability like that is part of his strength, and his versatility.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 23:08:40
March 12 2013 23:08 GMT
#47349
On March 13 2013 07:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 06:00 TheYango wrote:
All of those are analogous to Luna's counterpart skills. It's just that the specific advantages Gyro has over Luna favor pick-offs and Xv1s, while Luna's specific advantages favor 5-man pushing/teamfighting.

Just a note. I think we've seen luna die down a LOT in china. G-league finals, both teams quite prominent with Luna but she wasn't picked or banned ONCE during the entire series I believe.

Also, although rocket barrage can do great damage, it puts you at extreme risk because of the range. And considering gyro has no escape mechanisms and without bkb early on you can get focused easily.


The thing about luna is that its not just the individual hero, its the luna based lineup that's strong, and in every case in which a team's first 3 picks conformed to the basic structure of one that could use luna effectively during the G-League finals, she was banned in the second phase.

This is part of my continuing point on the matter, heroes like luna are strong as a part of a lineup build around them and, unlike things like bat, mag or nyx which are good regardless, thus we don't see any FP lunas anymore, which also helps explain why other teams in the west have generally been unsuccessful with her when they just randomly chuck her into a normal lineup in place of a first position without much thought on the lineup as a whole.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 12 2013 23:31 GMT
#47350
iG's ban/pick skill is insane, that game2 line up still impressed me deeply. While na/eu picks are just....amateurish/cute, being cute/trollish is fine but some line ups are really mind boggling.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
March 12 2013 23:32 GMT
#47351
Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 12 2013 23:35 GMT
#47352
On March 13 2013 08:32 Kishin2 wrote:
Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game.

Should just scale back his flak cannon range a bit, it is sorta silly atm how long it is
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
March 12 2013 23:37 GMT
#47353
OK pathing is still really weird. If you spam click somewhere your hero just cannot decide between two paths and just goes nowhere sometimes. And am i the only one feeling the game still feels unresponsive? Selecting and microing stuff is just... clumsy and weird.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 12 2013 23:41 GMT
#47354
On March 13 2013 08:35 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 08:32 Kishin2 wrote:
Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game.

Should just scale back his flak cannon range a bit, it is sorta silly atm how long it is

Yeah the 800 to 1000 increase was pretty humorous.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 12 2013 23:48 GMT
#47355
On March 13 2013 08:41 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 08:35 ragnorr wrote:
On March 13 2013 08:32 Kishin2 wrote:
Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game.

Should just scale back his flak cannon range a bit, it is sorta silly atm how long it is

Yeah the 800 to 1000 increase was pretty humorous.

Icefrog is a funny guy.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
March 12 2013 23:50 GMT
#47356
Does anyone actually commend people who ask to be commended?
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 12 2013 23:52 GMT
#47357
not many ppl ask for commends these days.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
March 12 2013 23:55 GMT
#47358
There is no incentive to commend or be commended at the moment.
Whats the altitude?
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
March 12 2013 23:57 GMT
#47359
On March 13 2013 08:50 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Does anyone actually commend people who ask to be commended?

Probably.
Some.
Do.
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ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
March 12 2013 23:58 GMT
#47360
On March 13 2013 08:50 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Does anyone actually commend people who ask to be commended?

Lol hell no. I love it when the other team, who just got done stomping your face in start asking for commends. Why would any sensible person oblige them?
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