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On March 13 2013 06:49 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 06:47 Iplaythings wrote:Now while we're at it, lets hate at gyro (because why not) cus that copter does waay too fucking much damage with that rocket barrage !  I don't hate gyro. I think he is pretty darn good in this patch and maybe he deserves some nerfs but I don't hate him. Shooting ALL the zombies is fun  (aka screw undying I'm glad somebody rapes him  ) Fun factor: High (flying red thingie is allways awesome, valve could make some fun skins for that)
But dammit, it feels like rocket barrage + call down is more damage than luna with eclipse + luscent beam.
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On March 13 2013 07:01 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 06:49 Sn0_Man wrote:On March 13 2013 06:47 Iplaythings wrote:Now while we're at it, lets hate at gyro (because why not) cus that copter does waay too fucking much damage with that rocket barrage !  I don't hate gyro. I think he is pretty darn good in this patch and maybe he deserves some nerfs but I don't hate him. Shooting ALL the zombies is fun  (aka screw undying I'm glad somebody rapes him  ) Fun factor: High (flying red thingie is allways awesome, valve could make some fun skins for that) But dammit, it feels like rocket barrage + call down is more damage than luna with eclipse + luscent beam. It's more consistent, spread out damage, and is not situational whether there are creeps / summons around. It always does its damage.
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
It doesn't have the 'lol u diving me mate? good luck bro' factor that eclipse does though.
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I don't get the commotion. Gyro is fine. At least I don't think he should even be considered for a nerf. He has 1 lackluster skill, homing missile. I don't think anyone will disagree that you don't need to max homing missile and you could get away with only putting 1 point in it. While flak cannon gives him an attack against everything in range, its limited to 6 attacks per cooldown.
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On March 13 2013 06:00 TheYango wrote: All of those are analogous to Luna's counterpart skills. It's just that the specific advantages Gyro has over Luna favor pick-offs and Xv1s, while Luna's specific advantages favor 5-man pushing/teamfighting. Just a note. I think we've seen luna die down a LOT in china. G-league finals, both teams quite prominent with Luna but she wasn't picked or banned ONCE during the entire series I believe.
Also, although rocket barrage can do great damage, it puts you at extreme risk because of the range. And considering gyro has no escape mechanisms and without bkb early on you can get focused easily.
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I'm pretty sure I remember seeing her banned in second phase along with LD but I was feverish at the time.
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A skill not requiring more than 1 point makes it a pretty good skill in my book. It's not as if I'm arguing that he's broken. However, Homing missile is far from a downside.
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Putting more points into homing in some 1v1 matchups is very strong. Its debatable if it's worth it over the extra levels in flak/barrage (his farming abilities), but in pub games its very strong. My comment is that having the option of a strong laning ability like that is part of his strength, and his versatility.
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On March 13 2013 07:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 06:00 TheYango wrote: All of those are analogous to Luna's counterpart skills. It's just that the specific advantages Gyro has over Luna favor pick-offs and Xv1s, while Luna's specific advantages favor 5-man pushing/teamfighting. Just a note. I think we've seen luna die down a LOT in china. G-league finals, both teams quite prominent with Luna but she wasn't picked or banned ONCE during the entire series I believe. Also, although rocket barrage can do great damage, it puts you at extreme risk because of the range. And considering gyro has no escape mechanisms and without bkb early on you can get focused easily.
The thing about luna is that its not just the individual hero, its the luna based lineup that's strong, and in every case in which a team's first 3 picks conformed to the basic structure of one that could use luna effectively during the G-League finals, she was banned in the second phase.
This is part of my continuing point on the matter, heroes like luna are strong as a part of a lineup build around them and, unlike things like bat, mag or nyx which are good regardless, thus we don't see any FP lunas anymore, which also helps explain why other teams in the west have generally been unsuccessful with her when they just randomly chuck her into a normal lineup in place of a first position without much thought on the lineup as a whole.
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iG's ban/pick skill is insane, that game2 line up still impressed me deeply. While na/eu picks are just....amateurish/cute, being cute/trollish is fine but some line ups are really mind boggling.
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Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game.
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On March 13 2013 08:32 Kishin2 wrote: Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game. Should just scale back his flak cannon range a bit, it is sorta silly atm how long it is
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OK pathing is still really weird. If you spam click somewhere your hero just cannot decide between two paths and just goes nowhere sometimes. And am i the only one feeling the game still feels unresponsive? Selecting and microing stuff is just... clumsy and weird.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On March 13 2013 08:35 ragnorr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 08:32 Kishin2 wrote: Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game. Should just scale back his flak cannon range a bit, it is sorta silly atm how long it is Yeah the 800 to 1000 increase was pretty humorous.
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On March 13 2013 08:41 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 08:35 ragnorr wrote:On March 13 2013 08:32 Kishin2 wrote: Gyro needs a nerf imo. He scales way too well throughout the game. Should just scale back his flak cannon range a bit, it is sorta silly atm how long it is Yeah the 800 to 1000 increase was pretty humorous. Icefrog is a funny guy.
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Does anyone actually commend people who ask to be commended?
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not many ppl ask for commends these days.
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Northern Ireland1200 Posts
There is no incentive to commend or be commended at the moment.
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On March 13 2013 08:50 AirbladeOrange wrote: Does anyone actually commend people who ask to be commended? Probably. Some. Do.
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On March 13 2013 08:50 AirbladeOrange wrote: Does anyone actually commend people who ask to be commended? Lol hell no. I love it when the other team, who just got done stomping your face in start asking for commends. Why would any sensible person oblige them?
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