I think most of us who have made a new account can attest to it being very easy to climb to the level of your main account independent of your teammates. If you're better than the rest of the players in the game, it is very noticable. If you feel very dependant on your teammates to win, I would say it is a good testament you're close to your actual MMR.
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Sweden979 Posts
I think most of us who have made a new account can attest to it being very easy to climb to the level of your main account independent of your teammates. If you're better than the rest of the players in the game, it is very noticable. If you feel very dependant on your teammates to win, I would say it is a good testament you're close to your actual MMR. | ||
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lazyitachi
1043 Posts
Unlike in LoL previously where you can specifically say "OMG u so noob drag me down.. i m not 1500, min 1800 Elo.. only here cos noobs like u" or the SC2 equivalent of team games stuck in bronze... :3 | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Normally I should feel guilty for smurfing, but I don't. On the other hand I can believe that occasional smurfs could lead to games that make people believe in elo hell. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
![]() Those Unknown packages where Dota2 keys in the past. It didn't happened yesterday night when I went to bed. Has it happened for anyone else? | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On February 27 2013 11:14 pedrlz wrote: I don't think you know what "elo hell" is. IMO the called elo hell would be a point in the ladder when you can't rise because your teammates sometimes can suck and your enemies are skilled enough to take advantage of that. What you have done was create a new account being a long time player against who don't know how to play. Also, I don't believe that the elo hell exist, it is just that is very hard to measure if the others players skills are higher than in the olds games or not. I think a good comparison would be remember the time when you used to play Dota w3 in Garena and now when you play in D2 MM, the players skills are, in average, higher than in that old times, so better than nothing. I don't get the concept of elo hell It implies that the system has something against you (i.e. always/mostly giving you bad teammates and always/mostly putting you against good opponents) Obviously that doesn't happen. ...But let's assume it does. There's 2 ways to take it: 1) Blame your teammates for not being as good 2) Blame yourself for not being even better. Because let's face it, if you were ars-art on that support, you'd still crush the game, even if your PA goes ghost scepter against some 5stack. Not mutually exclusive. But I like focusing on #2 rather than #1. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
In the end it wouldn't matter though because you'd still win more than lose because you're 'better' and eventually be good enough to compete in the next range of the matchmaker. So I guess after typing all of this, mmr hell is phony and at most limits you for a couple dozen games until your mmr is more sorted out. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
can someone like write me a convincing persuasive essay | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On February 27 2013 14:59 FinestHour wrote: my friend who is new is convinced that maxing necromastery is better then maxing raze on sf and refuses to listen to me can someone like write me a convincing persuasive essay maxing necro can be good if ur owning ur lane hard enough to need space for more souls every time u can level it up but ur lane opponent has an escape or something that makes it impossible to kill him with raze | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
the other one adds +72 dmg the choice is clear you also have higher dmg output at lv 7 cuz more souls for ult | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
actually i guess thats mainly kupon and rabid nvm | ||
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TheEmulator
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BeanerBurrito
1010 Posts
On February 27 2013 14:59 FinestHour wrote: my friend who is new is convinced that maxing necromastery is better then maxing raze on sf and refuses to listen to me can someone like write me a convincing persuasive essay Shadow raze does 300 magic damage at level 4 that means it does 225 damage to heroes per raze (300*.75) you can cast 3 shadow razes in succession dealing a total of 675 damage in about 1-2 seconds Shadow raze is aoe meaning that if you hit 2 units with all of your razes you could do 1350 damage in 1-2 seconds If you are shadow fiend and get +72 damage from souls, you will deal around 100-150 damage per hit, it would take 6 hits to deal 675 damage in about 6 seconds, it would take about 13 hits to deal 1350 damage in about 13 seconds, etc. Shadow raze also allows you to farm creeps all game, push a lane, and defend a lane from being pushed. It's nooby not to get a skill that's so good, also shadow raze is the only spell in the game that gives you 3 spells for 1 skill point, it's baller. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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TheEmulator
28102 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Raze kills shit, necro doesn't. The end | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
Maybe not easier, but most convincing. | ||
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On February 27 2013 14:59 FinestHour wrote: my friend who is new is convinced that maxing necromastery is better then maxing raze on sf and refuses to listen to me can someone like write me a convincing persuasive essay i've smurfed necro/presence/stats/raze before in a game and still ended up with 15 kills and something like 2 deaths... Wouldn't recommend it for anything remotely serious, of course, but it's still humorous. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On February 27 2013 15:27 TheEmulator wrote: Here's your convincing persuasive essay Finesthour: + Show Spoiler + Raze kills shit, necro doesn't. The end nice i enjoyed that essay, i see why they call you tl #1 writer not that i didnt already know that before | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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