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deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
February 26 2013 23:38 GMT
#44861
On February 27 2013 08:36 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:34 deichkind wrote:
dont get why people are suprised, been underpreforming ofr a long time now


except for when it ACTUALLY matters..

#1
#2

at the biggest, most prestigious and important tournament in the entire scene.


Let's be real, nobody really cares who wins EMS CUP #3 for $50.


Na'Vi comes through when it counts, or at least has done so historically. They won't break up the team because of these piddly little online results. If they shake up the roster it's because of internal dealings and the players just don't feel chemistry, or desire to play with one another any longer which would effect their LAN performance, notably, TI3.


ages ago..dota scene is a fast moving one, cant expect to get a free pass for stuff months and years ago
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
February 26 2013 23:39 GMT
#44862
@DendiBoss Thnx friend. Hope ur team issues will be solved soon. I know how much it sucks -_-



well that pretty much confirms a roster shuffle
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 23:43:19
February 26 2013 23:41 GMT
#44863
On February 27 2013 08:38 deichkind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:36 crms wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:34 deichkind wrote:
dont get why people are suprised, been underpreforming ofr a long time now


except for when it ACTUALLY matters..

#1
#2

at the biggest, most prestigious and important tournament in the entire scene.


Let's be real, nobody really cares who wins EMS CUP #3 for $50.


Na'Vi comes through when it counts, or at least has done so historically. They won't break up the team because of these piddly little online results. If they shake up the roster it's because of internal dealings and the players just don't feel chemistry, or desire to play with one another any longer which would effect their LAN performance, notably, TI3.


ages ago..dota scene is a fast moving one, cant expect to get a free pass for stuff months and years ago



edit; not even worth it, you're quite out of your mind.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
February 26 2013 23:44 GMT
#44864
On February 27 2013 08:39 Klonere wrote:
@DendiBoss Thnx friend. Hope ur team issues will be solved soon. I know how much it sucks -_-

https://twitter.com/LodaBerg/status/306548476739715072

well that pretty much confirms a roster shuffle

Doesn't confirm anything :3
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
February 26 2013 23:44 GMT
#44865
I've somehow delved below the bottom, where people silently co ordinate to put 3 people in mid, or die to neutrals.


Dying to neutrals happen at all levels.

If you seek well, you shall find.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 26 2013 23:45 GMT
#44866
with great power comes great responsibility. mr estonia is cracking under pressure.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 27 2013 00:16 GMT
#44867
I call "elo hell" a myth.

Here is what I did:
+ Show Spoiler +
Just created a new account and took "I'm new", the lowest of the options.
Took PA, one of my worst heroes. I called mid, then Sniper and Anti mage both went mid too. I switched to solo safe lane, where my enemies were Clockwerk and Bane.
We got first blood, but our sniper left for no apparent reason 7 minutes into the game.
I went 5-0 in the lane, while I also had basically free farm.
When I started hunting I bought a magic wand, which I never used and never got full charges.
Went 30-1-1 some minutes later, with Drow leeching exp off my kills.
At that point I had Phase Boots, Mask of Madness, Battlefury, 2 Divine Rapiers and 1 TP scroll.
I dived into their fountain for some more kills, dropped 1 Divine Rapier on purpose and got killed by fountain when I ran away. Enemy Beastmaster and Chaosknight(the high level of their team) picked up the Rapiers.

We still won.

If there is elo hell, I didn't drop deep enough. If you can't get out of elo hell, you are not as good as you think. Lesson one is realizing what your hero can do and what the enemies heroes can't do at the current time. Then use that knowledge to kill them.
There might be a problem with smurfs on lower levels though.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
February 27 2013 00:16 GMT
#44868
On February 27 2013 08:44 Kyrillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
I've somehow delved below the bottom, where people silently co ordinate to put 3 people in mid, or die to neutrals.


Dying to neutrals happen at all levels.


Those sound like high level strats. I die in neuts all the time on purpose
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
February 27 2013 00:24 GMT
#44869
On February 27 2013 08:35 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:30 SilverStar wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:03 duoform wrote:


I wonder what's going on...
ARTSTYLE PLZ

As v1lat would say: uiuiuiuiuiuiui :D


Why is this called titled dendi? It's m5 vs mouz, if he's standing in I can't tell who he's playing
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
February 27 2013 00:25 GMT
#44870
I die to neuts sometimes when i alt tab back into dota cuz i didn't plan out my shift-amove jungle path well enough
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 00:33:46
February 27 2013 00:33 GMT
#44871
yes, spend all gold and die to neutral, free tp back to base. neat trick to do when you dont even need 10seconds to respawn but in pub it is 'omg noob die to neutrals'.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 27 2013 00:37 GMT
#44872
On February 27 2013 09:24 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:35 duoform wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:30 SilverStar wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:03 duoform wrote:
https://twitter.com/zerogravity_ua/status/306534964428673024

I wonder what's going on...
ARTSTYLE PLZ

As v1lat would say: uiuiuiuiuiuiui :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRD2nULerRM

Why is this called titled dendi? It's m5 vs mouz, if he's standing in I can't tell who he's playing

Jusy a guess, Dendi is commentating with him and going uiuiiuiiuiu
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 00:41:06
February 27 2013 00:40 GMT
#44873
On February 27 2013 09:37 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 09:24 igotmyown wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:35 duoform wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:30 SilverStar wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:03 duoform wrote:
https://twitter.com/zerogravity_ua/status/306534964428673024

I wonder what's going on...
ARTSTYLE PLZ

As v1lat would say: uiuiuiuiuiuiui :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRD2nULerRM

Why is this called titled dendi? It's m5 vs mouz, if he's standing in I can't tell who he's playing

Jusy a guess, Dendi is commentating with him and going uiuiiuiiuiu

Yeah I remember this. M5 got really pissed of because Dendi & Co were making fun of them while casting and they could hear it while playing or something.

This was at the starladder 3 lan finals I believe.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 27 2013 00:53 GMT
#44874
Pudge is fun. Been a long time since i last used him, managed to suicide 3 of 6deaths in a single game to prevent giving out kills.

Pudge you too good!
Mew Mew Pew Pew
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 27 2013 01:15 GMT
#44875
On February 27 2013 09:53 Mithhaike wrote:
Pudge is fun. Been a long time since i last used him, managed to suicide 3 of 6deaths in a single game to prevent giving out kills.

Pudge you too good!

If you enjoy denying yourself, wait for techies. :D
super gg
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 27 2013 01:20 GMT
#44876
On February 27 2013 09:16 Mataza wrote:
I call "elo hell" a myth.

Here is what I did:
+ Show Spoiler +
Just created a new account and took "I'm new", the lowest of the options.
Took PA, one of my worst heroes. I called mid, then Sniper and Anti mage both went mid too. I switched to solo safe lane, where my enemies were Clockwerk and Bane.
We got first blood, but our sniper left for no apparent reason 7 minutes into the game.
I went 5-0 in the lane, while I also had basically free farm.
When I started hunting I bought a magic wand, which I never used and never got full charges.
Went 30-1-1 some minutes later, with Drow leeching exp off my kills.
At that point I had Phase Boots, Mask of Madness, Battlefury, 2 Divine Rapiers and 1 TP scroll.
I dived into their fountain for some more kills, dropped 1 Divine Rapier on purpose and got killed by fountain when I ran away. Enemy Beastmaster and Chaosknight(the high level of their team) picked up the Rapiers.

We still won.

If there is elo hell, I didn't drop deep enough. If you can't get out of elo hell, you are not as good as you think. Lesson one is realizing what your hero can do and what the enemies heroes can't do at the current time. Then use that knowledge to kill them.
There might be a problem with smurfs on lower levels though.

i have a solo queue smurf just to experiment. i havent played enough on it but all first 5 games were complete stomps with more than a few rampages (random heroes)

BUT a single digit number of games, let alone a double digit number of games is hardly a good number to base opinions on
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 27 2013 01:33 GMT
#44877
On February 27 2013 10:15 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 09:53 Mithhaike wrote:
Pudge is fun. Been a long time since i last used him, managed to suicide 3 of 6deaths in a single game to prevent giving out kills.

Pudge you too good!

If you enjoy denying yourself, wait for techies. :D

Yep i enjoy denying myself haha. So many times I was poisoned/doomed and dying,i walk next to a teammate and they didn't even think to deny me...now with Pudge i can just deny myself!
Mew Mew Pew Pew
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
February 27 2013 01:39 GMT
#44878
On February 27 2013 09:16 Mataza wrote:
I call "elo hell" a myth.

Here is what I did:
+ Show Spoiler +
Just created a new account and took "I'm new", the lowest of the options.
Took PA, one of my worst heroes. I called mid, then Sniper and Anti mage both went mid too. I switched to solo safe lane, where my enemies were Clockwerk and Bane.
We got first blood, but our sniper left for no apparent reason 7 minutes into the game.
I went 5-0 in the lane, while I also had basically free farm.
When I started hunting I bought a magic wand, which I never used and never got full charges.
Went 30-1-1 some minutes later, with Drow leeching exp off my kills.
At that point I had Phase Boots, Mask of Madness, Battlefury, 2 Divine Rapiers and 1 TP scroll.
I dived into their fountain for some more kills, dropped 1 Divine Rapier on purpose and got killed by fountain when I ran away. Enemy Beastmaster and Chaosknight(the high level of their team) picked up the Rapiers.

We still won.

If there is elo hell, I didn't drop deep enough. If you can't get out of elo hell, you are not as good as you think. Lesson one is realizing what your hero can do and what the enemies heroes can't do at the current time. Then use that knowledge to kill them.
There might be a problem with smurfs on lower levels though.

I never heard the phrase elo hell used in dota. It's something in lol but never ever heard that used in dota.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
February 27 2013 02:14 GMT
#44879
On February 27 2013 09:16 Mataza wrote:
I call "elo hell" a myth.

Here is what I did:
+ Show Spoiler +
Just created a new account and took "I'm new", the lowest of the options.
Took PA, one of my worst heroes. I called mid, then Sniper and Anti mage both went mid too. I switched to solo safe lane, where my enemies were Clockwerk and Bane.
We got first blood, but our sniper left for no apparent reason 7 minutes into the game.
I went 5-0 in the lane, while I also had basically free farm.
When I started hunting I bought a magic wand, which I never used and never got full charges.
Went 30-1-1 some minutes later, with Drow leeching exp off my kills.
At that point I had Phase Boots, Mask of Madness, Battlefury, 2 Divine Rapiers and 1 TP scroll.
I dived into their fountain for some more kills, dropped 1 Divine Rapier on purpose and got killed by fountain when I ran away. Enemy Beastmaster and Chaosknight(the high level of their team) picked up the Rapiers.

We still won.

If there is elo hell, I didn't drop deep enough. If you can't get out of elo hell, you are not as good as you think. Lesson one is realizing what your hero can do and what the enemies heroes can't do at the current time. Then use that knowledge to kill them.
There might be a problem with smurfs on lower levels though.

I don't think you know what "elo hell" is. IMO the called elo hell would be a point in the ladder when you can't rise because your teammates sometimes can suck and your enemies are skilled enough to take advantage of that.

What you have done was create a new account being a long time player against who don't know how to play.

Also, I don't believe that the elo hell exist, it is just that is very hard to measure if the others players skills are higher than in the olds games or not. I think a good comparison would be remember the time when you used to play Dota w3 in Garena and now when you play in D2 MM, the players skills are, in average, higher than in that old times, so better than nothing.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 27 2013 02:49 GMT
#44880
Elo/mmr hell is a myth.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
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