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duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
February 26 2013 20:51 GMT
#44801
On February 27 2013 05:43 Comeh wrote:
Alright, so you guys are the head of valve invitations to TI3.

Now that EE is off NTH, does No Tidehunter deserve an invite to TI3?

We are talking about a player. Not a full man roster. If Valve decides to go for Invitations again and doesn't invite No Tidehunter it would be strange. They have been consistent since they put the team together. They won DH. They had a good Thor LAN. They are practicing in a lot in online tournaments as well as the recent EMS.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
February 26 2013 20:52 GMT
#44802
yes because Loda
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 26 2013 20:55 GMT
#44803
On February 27 2013 05:51 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 05:43 Comeh wrote:
Alright, so you guys are the head of valve invitations to TI3.

Now that EE is off NTH, does No Tidehunter deserve an invite to TI3?

We are talking about a player. Not a full man roster. If Valve decides to go for Invitations again and doesn't invite No Tidehunter it would be strange. They have been consistent since they put the team together. They won DH. They had a good Thor LAN. They are practicing in a lot in online tournaments as well as the recent EMS.

The thing (my devils advocate) is that they won DH with a different captain. Having a different captain (particularly one who works as hard as EE, and who apparently made as many calls as him) is a pretty big deal, much bigger than swapping just a normal support for another. I suppose I should edit my question to:

Do you still consider DH and other successes of NTH when selecting them for TI3?
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
February 26 2013 20:57 GMT
#44804
On February 27 2013 05:55 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 05:51 duoform wrote:
On February 27 2013 05:43 Comeh wrote:
Alright, so you guys are the head of valve invitations to TI3.

Now that EE is off NTH, does No Tidehunter deserve an invite to TI3?

We are talking about a player. Not a full man roster. If Valve decides to go for Invitations again and doesn't invite No Tidehunter it would be strange. They have been consistent since they put the team together. They won DH. They had a good Thor LAN. They are practicing in a lot in online tournaments as well as the recent EMS.

The thing (my devils advocate) is that they won DH with a different captain. Having a different captain (particularly one who works as hard as EE, and who apparently made as many calls as him) is a pretty big deal, much bigger than swapping just a normal support for another. I suppose I should edit my question to:

Do you still consider DH and other successes of NTH when selecting them for TI3?


Did we consider TI1 and other successes of Na'Vi when selecting them for TI2?
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 21:05:48
February 26 2013 20:58 GMT
#44805
--- Nuked ---
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 21:00:11
February 26 2013 20:59 GMT
#44806
On February 27 2013 05:55 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 05:51 duoform wrote:
On February 27 2013 05:43 Comeh wrote:
Alright, so you guys are the head of valve invitations to TI3.

Now that EE is off NTH, does No Tidehunter deserve an invite to TI3?

We are talking about a player. Not a full man roster. If Valve decides to go for Invitations again and doesn't invite No Tidehunter it would be strange. They have been consistent since they put the team together. They won DH. They had a good Thor LAN. They are practicing in a lot in online tournaments as well as the recent EMS.

The thing (my devils advocate) is that they won DH with a different captain. Having a different captain (particularly one who works as hard as EE, and who apparently made as many calls as him) is a pretty big deal, much bigger than swapping just a normal support for another. I suppose I should edit my question to:

Do you still consider DH and other successes of NTH when selecting them for TI3?


Yes.

Rationally or not, teams are like franchises. We don't reset counters of championships by sports teams because they get new players, coaches, owners, rosters etc. Sure, the stats are mostly meaningless when major shifts happen but you have to include all successes of the 'team'.

I do laugh though when ESPN etc., report things like 'X team is 10-8 in the world series games' like wtf does that mean to me currently when the entire roster/coaching staff is different? 25 years ago X team had a Y record vs Z team. So now that X v Z are playing today, this might be relevent!! Dumb.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
February 26 2013 21:02 GMT
#44807
Yeah it was a different captain but still, the team spirit is there besides all the drama and whatnot and the rest of the team wants to keep it going.
Of course you have to consider DH. There were a lot of good teams there (Na'Vi, EG, Dignitas, Fnatic, Mouz, aL) and don't forget how few offline finals we have in DotA. It's not like we have NASL, MLG, DH, IEM to judge teams from you know...
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 26 2013 21:02 GMT
#44808
Honestly even ignoring their pre-roster change results, NTH would probably still get the TI3 invite off of Loda+Akke star power. TI invites aren't all results-based.
Moderator
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
February 26 2013 21:03 GMT
#44809
How the fuck do you get out of MMR hell? Out of my last 20 games I've won maybe 3 because my team mates are either too new or too stupid to have any degree of skill. It's making me just want to not play dota again, ever.
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
February 26 2013 21:06 GMT
#44810
On February 27 2013 06:03 kollin wrote:
How the fuck do you get out of MMR hell? Out of my last 20 games I've won maybe 3 because my team mates are either too new or too stupid to have any degree of skill. It's making me just want to not play dota again, ever.

What is MMR hell?
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 26 2013 21:07 GMT
#44811
On February 27 2013 06:03 kollin wrote:
How the fuck do you get out of MMR hell? Out of my last 20 games I've won maybe 3 because my team mates are either too new or too stupid to have any degree of skill. It's making me just want to not play dota again, ever.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369794&currentpage=9#167
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 26 2013 21:09 GMT
#44812
On February 27 2013 06:07 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 06:03 kollin wrote:
How the fuck do you get out of MMR hell? Out of my last 20 games I've won maybe 3 because my team mates are either too new or too stupid to have any degree of skill. It's making me just want to not play dota again, ever.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369794&currentpage=9#167
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452

I feel like that picture of treant should just be replaced by a picture of one of us TL'ers.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
February 26 2013 21:10 GMT
#44813
The thing is, dota is a team game. For example, my skills as a support are generally okay, but lololol let's go 3 mid guys!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 26 2013 21:13 GMT
#44814
On February 27 2013 06:09 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 06:07 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 27 2013 06:03 kollin wrote:
How the fuck do you get out of MMR hell? Out of my last 20 games I've won maybe 3 because my team mates are either too new or too stupid to have any degree of skill. It's making me just want to not play dota again, ever.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369794&currentpage=9#167
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452

I feel like that picture of treant should just be replaced by a picture of one of us TL'ers.


If kollin had a picture in his profile I'd photoshop it in there.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
February 26 2013 21:14 GMT
#44815
im not saying you are but not being a toxic presence on your team through flaming or passive aggressiveness or anything like can lead you to make friends with people online, with which you can go off to the promised land with, aka stacktopia
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 26 2013 21:15 GMT
#44816
there's no esport show that's better than the GD show

this Saturday, BTS vs GD Studio, HERE WE GO
ffxiv enjoyer
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 21:18:14
February 26 2013 21:17 GMT
#44817
On February 27 2013 06:06 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 06:03 kollin wrote:
How the fuck do you get out of MMR hell? Out of my last 20 games I've won maybe 3 because my team mates are either too new or too stupid to have any degree of skill. It's making me just want to not play dota again, ever.

What is MMR hell?


http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/an-extremely-unofficial-dota-matchmaking-faq-part-1/
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/an-extremely-unofficial-dota-matchmaking-faq-part-2/
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/an-extremely-unofficial-dota-matchmaking-faq-part-3/

kollin, don't blame external factors and just get better at the game, if you honestly feel that you are that much better than your bracket just try something i've suggested, pick a hard carry, go solo offlane, win the lane 1v3 and then carry the game. If the difference between you and your bracket isn't that big just try to go into games with a mentality of being "more impactful" and pay more attention to your own mistakes instead of your teammates
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 21:18:44
February 26 2013 21:17 GMT
#44818
Klonere the one guy I got along well with and talked to and stuff is on at the weirdest fucking times ever. Everyone else doesn't communicate or doesn't speak English.
Edit: Kupon I don't know if my carry is good enough to actually do that though. I've spent all this time trying to improve as a support but lolpubs makes it all useless.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
February 26 2013 21:18 GMT
#44819
"Cyborgmatt: BTS wanted to do a BO50, weppas couldn't handle it though"

And both studios will be streaming, so you can hear what each team is saying! :D
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 26 2013 21:19 GMT
#44820
i didnt even know elo hell existed in this moba
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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