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On February 22 2013 01:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 00:22 Unleashing wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) I'm not going to stop. Especially because most the heroes bar the few that were changed still have their names. Gondar is still gondar. Templar assassin is still lanaya. Phantom assassin is still mortred. And so on. That's ALSO their names in dota 2. On February 21 2013 23:05 WindWolf wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) As another person who is in the same situation I agree. Just use the Dota2 names when talking Dota2 Dota2 names? Unless the name was changed due to copyright (see leoric) they still have the same names. Tinker is still boush. Ogre magi is still Aggron Stonebreak. Why would you communicate in ways you know at least some of your teammates are unlikely to understand? That rather defeats the purpose of communication, does it not? I mean. . .Aggron? Really? + Show Spoiler + ikr
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N'aix is more used than Lifestealer. Furion (Natures Prophet), Gondar (BH), Rhasta (shadow shaman) and POTM (mirana) are also very used. These 5 you should learn really quick because people use them a lot.
Also names I see commonly used: Lanaya / Krobelus / Ymir / Sillybear / Nevermore
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On February 22 2013 01:52 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 01:47 DoNotDisturb wrote:On February 22 2013 01:32 Knightess wrote: I shed a tear when I watch iceiceice stream and they say leshrac = TS. Good ol Dota 1 days... in the old days of TLIH (2011/early 2012), people were confused when I said rk (sven) that made me sad I've played DotA since naix had 4.0 agi growth and I literally never heard anyone call Sven "rk."
naix had 4.0agi growth? LOL
that's even more imba than warpgate research taking 60 seconds to complete
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On February 22 2013 02:03 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 01:52 cecek wrote:On February 22 2013 01:47 DoNotDisturb wrote:On February 22 2013 01:32 Knightess wrote: I shed a tear when I watch iceiceice stream and they say leshrac = TS. Good ol Dota 1 days... in the old days of TLIH (2011/early 2012), people were confused when I said rk (sven) that made me sad I've played DotA since naix had 4.0 agi growth and I literally never heard anyone call Sven "rk." naix had 4.0agi growth? LOL that's even more imba than warpgate research taking 60 seconds to complete Didnt he have like 30 sec rage too? and 40-50% lifesteal? :D
Edit: "Base attribute - STR HP - 435 MP - 195 Base damage - 39-49 Armor - 4 Base MS - 295
STR - 15 + 1.4 (FFFUUUUU~) AGI - 26 + 4.05 (WHAT THE HELL? YOU'RE A FUCKING STR HERO AFTER ALL!) INT - 15 + 1.5
Skills:
Feast (passive) Lvl 1 - 10% LifeSteal (stackable with other LS) Lvl 2 - 20% LS Lvl 3 - 30% LS Lvl 4 - 40% LS
Poison sting (passive) Lvl 1 - 10% slow on attack Lvl 2 - 20% slow Lvl 3 - 30% slow Lvl 4 - 40% slow (for a passive ability? OMGWTFH4X ! ! !)
Anabolic Frenzy (passive, NOT AGAIN) Lvl 1 - +3% MS, +10% IAS Lvl 2 - +5% MS, +20% IAS Lvl 3 - +7% MS, +30% IAS Lvl 4 - +9% MS (old S&Y gave you +10% MS), +40% IAS
Rage (AT LAST, active) Firstly, and the most important - MAGIC IMMUNE AT ALL LEVELS! Manacost = 150, 90 seconds cooldown.
Lvl 1 - 10 seconds duration, +10 dmg during the Rage Lvl 2 - 15 secs, +15 dmg Lvl 3 - 20 secs of MAGIC IMMUNE (OMGWTFH4X part 2), +20 dmg"
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I knew there was a reason I spent ages thinking Lifestealer was an agility hero.
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It's not like you are intentionally trying to be misleading or an annoying old school hipster. It's that you have been calling the guy Furion for 5 years, you will naturally call him Furion. Specially since people will ussually understand it. Saying you are an idiot because of it is absurd.
I personally had never heard RK as well tbh, but the most common name is often related to where you played Dota 1. Auishta, Strygwyr and Shendelzare Silkwood are a few I can think of that I also don't remember being used often, if at all. Then you get heroes like Viper and Medusa that are almost always refered as their names, instead of their classes. It's just weird and not consistent.
On February 22 2013 02:03 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 01:52 cecek wrote:On February 22 2013 01:47 DoNotDisturb wrote:On February 22 2013 01:32 Knightess wrote: I shed a tear when I watch iceiceice stream and they say leshrac = TS. Good ol Dota 1 days... in the old days of TLIH (2011/early 2012), people were confused when I said rk (sven) that made me sad I've played DotA since naix had 4.0 agi growth and I literally never heard anyone call Sven "rk." naix had 4.0agi growth? LOL that's even more imba than warpgate research taking 60 seconds to complete
He wasn't Naix though, it was a very diferent hero. Not even that good to be honest.
On February 22 2013 02:03 DrPandaPhD wrote: N'aix is more used than Lifestealer. Furion (Natures Prophet), Gondar (BH), Rhasta (shadow shaman) and POTM (mirana) are also very used. These 5 you should learn really quick because people use them a lot.
Also names I see commonly used: Lanaya / Krobelus / Ymir / Sillybear / Nevermore
I Also remember seeing Atropos, Mortred, Leoric, Barathum, Balanar, Mercurial, Magina, Riki (or is it SA? I don't even remember how he is called in Dota2, both were used in Dota 1), some of them quite often. There's quite a few of them.
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Wow. What patch was that?
E: the lifestealer thing, I mean.
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That was long ago, in the 5.x days up through around 6.4 or so.
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The interview with puppey was great. The last question, especially. He's an insightful guy.
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On February 22 2013 02:14 Sn0_Man wrote: Wow. What patch was that?
E: the lifestealer thing, I mean. WE played that version not so long ago with a few of IRC guys, chen was more imba than that, they can attest
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On February 22 2013 01:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 00:22 Unleashing wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) I'm not going to stop. Especially because most the heroes bar the few that were changed still have their names. Gondar is still gondar. Templar assassin is still lanaya. Phantom assassin is still mortred. And so on. That's ALSO their names in dota 2. On February 21 2013 23:05 WindWolf wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) As another person who is in the same situation I agree. Just use the Dota2 names when talking Dota2 Dota2 names? Unless the name was changed due to copyright (see leoric) they still have the same names. Tinker is still boush. Ogre magi is still Aggron Stonebreak. Why would you communicate in ways you know at least some of your teammates are unlikely to understand? That rather defeats the purpose of communication, does it not? I mean. . .Aggron? Really? How would they be unlikely to understand? It is the name of the hero o_o Even in dota2. That's like saying people would be confused if i called lifestealer n'aix. Nobody uses Aggron, well some do, but most use ogre. But it is still his name, and saying that people should stop using 'dota 1 names' is just stupid if they are not referring to names that were changed.
Nobody has been confused when i call Lifestealer n'aix nor when i call spirit breaker barathrum.
Those are the CANON names of the heroes in DOTA 2.
DP is also often called Krob, lone druid is called sylla, heck people still use traxex.
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I can say the old Naix was wtfomg. At like lvl 10 you had ~20 str or something and like 80 agi.
And he had a zergling as a hero model in WC3, with the most weird turn rate/animation ever.
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On February 22 2013 02:46 Qbek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 02:14 Sn0_Man wrote: Wow. What patch was that?
E: the lifestealer thing, I mean. WE played that version not so long ago with a few of IRC guys, chen was more imba than that, they can attest
I forgot you can just pick whatever version of Dota1 you like and play it...
On February 22 2013 02:51 Unleashing wrote:
How would they be unlikely to understand? It is the name of the hero o_o Even in dota2. That's like saying people would be confused if i called lifestealer n'aix. Nobody uses Aggron, well some do, but most use ogre. But it is still his name, and saying that people should stop using 'dota 1 names' is just stupid if they are not referring to names that were changed.
Nobody has been confused when i call Lifestealer n'aix nor when i call spirit breaker barathrum.
Those are the CANON names of the heroes in DOTA 2.
Yeah only there is no easy way to determine who barathrum is in-game. My brother (with about 50 games by now) would be sooooo lost if you said bara, and there wouldn't be any way for him to clear it up without other people explaining.
I'll admit naix simply goes by naix, but even so I think that Lifestealer is just what he should be called.
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But everybody has access to the lore. Ontop of the fact that if you don't know what someone's talking about, you'll ask who they mean, if they are an asshole they'd be an asshole regardless, if they are sensible they'll tell you and then you know for another time.
N'aix, bara, trax, mortred, krob, sylla and so on are all CANON NAMES. they are the names of said heroes. Telling people to stop using them because of dota 1 is nothing short of silly. People should stop calling a hero by the name it has in dota 2 because it also had the name in dota 1? wat.
If he wants to confirm which hero is which, all he has to do is browse through the lore which everybody has access to. The name is the first thing that is listed.
Not that i don't think the name should simply be inside the game, but i wont stop calling doom Lucifer and the likes.
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On February 22 2013 02:51 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 01:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On February 22 2013 00:22 Unleashing wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) I'm not going to stop. Especially because most the heroes bar the few that were changed still have their names. Gondar is still gondar. Templar assassin is still lanaya. Phantom assassin is still mortred. And so on. That's ALSO their names in dota 2. On February 21 2013 23:05 WindWolf wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) As another person who is in the same situation I agree. Just use the Dota2 names when talking Dota2 Dota2 names? Unless the name was changed due to copyright (see leoric) they still have the same names. Tinker is still boush. Ogre magi is still Aggron Stonebreak. Why would you communicate in ways you know at least some of your teammates are unlikely to understand? That rather defeats the purpose of communication, does it not? I mean. . .Aggron? Really? How would they be unlikely to understand? It is the name of the hero o_o Even in dota2. That's like saying people would be confused if i called lifestealer n'aix. Nobody uses Aggron, well some do, but most use ogre. But it is still his name, and saying that people should stop using 'dota 1 names' is just stupid if they are not referring to names that were changed. Nobody has been confused when i call Lifestealer n'aix nor when i call spirit breaker barathrum. Those are the CANON names of the heroes in DOTA 2. DP is also often called Krob, lone druid is called sylla, heck people still use traxex.
So you'll just assume everyone reads the lore? That's the only way to know the names, afaik they aren't displayed in game.
People calling Drow Traxex makes no sense to me. DROW IS SHORTER THAN TRAXEX!
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Trax and drow are equally long, and people usually use Trax, some uses traxex, but yea.
And no i don't assume everyone reads the lore, but acting as though people are oldschool hipsters for using dota 2 names in dota 2 is nothing short of silly to me. 5 year old habits aren't going to die, especially not WHEN IT IS STILL THE NAME OF THE HERO.
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On February 22 2013 02:58 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 02:51 Unleashing wrote:On February 22 2013 01:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On February 22 2013 00:22 Unleashing wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) I'm not going to stop. Especially because most the heroes bar the few that were changed still have their names. Gondar is still gondar. Templar assassin is still lanaya. Phantom assassin is still mortred. And so on. That's ALSO their names in dota 2. On February 21 2013 23:05 WindWolf wrote:On February 21 2013 22:39 Farone wrote: I never played dota1 and I started playing dota2 some time ago, but people using the dota1 names for dota2 heroes is kinda confusing for me. And even more if they use the abbreviation of the hero! STOP IT ;-) As another person who is in the same situation I agree. Just use the Dota2 names when talking Dota2 Dota2 names? Unless the name was changed due to copyright (see leoric) they still have the same names. Tinker is still boush. Ogre magi is still Aggron Stonebreak. Why would you communicate in ways you know at least some of your teammates are unlikely to understand? That rather defeats the purpose of communication, does it not? I mean. . .Aggron? Really? How would they be unlikely to understand? It is the name of the hero o_o Even in dota2. That's like saying people would be confused if i called lifestealer n'aix. Nobody uses Aggron, well some do, but most use ogre. But it is still his name, and saying that people should stop using 'dota 1 names' is just stupid if they are not referring to names that were changed. Nobody has been confused when i call Lifestealer n'aix nor when i call spirit breaker barathrum. Those are the CANON names of the heroes in DOTA 2. DP is also often called Krob, lone druid is called sylla, heck people still use traxex. So you'll just assume everyone reads the lore? That's the only way to know the names, afaik they aren't displayed in game. People calling Drow Traxex makes no sense to me. DROW IS SHORTER THAN TRAXEX!
Both are equally visible in Dota 1. So people just called them whathever they felt was easier or made more sense. Then people keep calling them that way because it's just what they have been calling them for years. That's the reason. It really isn't that complicated or something people really worry about.
If everyone was starting out now, sure the displayed names would be the ones everyone would be saying. It's not because it's canon or it isn't, that's a shitty reason. If someone says Ethreain you can't possibly expect someone to know it is Lich even if it is canon, and avaible for anyone else to see. It's just not a big enough deal for people to change their habits.
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I always remember calling drow just Trax instead of Traxex
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Kardel Sharpeye made sniper seem so much more badass.
If you are confused by me calling heroes by their dota 1 names, Sorry, sucks for you, but I've been calling natures prophet furion for years before dota 2 ever existed, and he shall remain furion so long as he continues to teleport and summon trees.
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timbersaw - > shredder jakiro -> thd bounty hunter -> gondar riki - > sa undying -> dirge lifestealer - naix mirana -> potm nature's prophet -> furion beastmaster -> rexxar lone druid -> sylla
i think those are all the non-in game names i use out of habit
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