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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
February 20 2013 07:38 GMT
#43981
Still prefer DoA's dota cast as far as humorous casting goes. Then again perhaps the fact it was at a big event makes it more appealing
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 07:51:06
February 20 2013 07:40 GMT
#43982
I've played around with the idea of using naga ult to isolate heroes a bit myself, but haven't found a situation where it worked as intended. It's definitely one of the more entertaining tactics to see when pulled off perfectly. Combining it with a Pudge hook would be pretty awesome.

Bane, Tide, Razor, and Rubick are the only heroes with an ability that reduces damage directly. I'm curious how much survivability a line-up composed of these 4 heroes + 1 would be in a team fight... You have enfeeble that reduces damage of one hero by 30/60/90/120 and cannot be removed by anything, 40% damage reduction in an aoe from anchor smash, flat 32 damage reduction on multiple targets from fade bolt, and Razor can steal hundreds of damage from a single hero. They all go through magic immunity except fade bolt.

The obvious counter would be high magical damage but Rubick has passive aoe magic reduction. Just a casual cloak on every hero and you have 50% magic resistance on everyone and no one on the enemy team does notable damage at all. Nightmare also makes static link reduction guaranteed. Laning doesn't look impractical, especially since there's an extra slot leftover, although it doesn't seem particularly strong. The biggest weakest is probably the lack of damage output, so a glass-cannon carry might have the best synergy. Maybe zues, sf, sniper, luna, lycan can work.

Recalling the moments where I've mindgamed people with the 40% anchor smash on Tide, a strategy like this might be useful. Regardless, seeing it in action, with all that damage reduction, would be highly entertaining.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 09:22:01
February 20 2013 08:46 GMT
#43983
Yesterday I played a game against bounty hunter, riki and nightstalker. At night they just became a 3 man rape train, running over the map ganking everyone. Im pretty sure they were playing together.

I cried myself to sleep afterwards

o_O oops I posted in the wrong thread
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
February 20 2013 09:16 GMT
#43984
On February 20 2013 17:46 solidbebe wrote:
Yesterday I played a game against bounty hunter, riki and nightstalker. At night they just became a 3 man rape train, running over the map ganking everyone. Im pretty sure they were playing together.

I cried myself to sleep afterwards

Wrong thread.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
PromisE
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Philippines151 Posts
February 20 2013 11:38 GMT
#43985
On February 20 2013 16:40 Kishin2 wrote:
I've played around with the idea of using naga ult to isolate heroes a bit myself, but haven't found a situation where it worked as intended. It's definitely one of the more entertaining tactics to see when pulled off perfectly. Combining it with a Pudge hook would be pretty awesome.

Bane, Tide, Razor, and Rubick are the only heroes with an ability that reduces damage directly. I'm curious how much survivability a line-up composed of these 4 heroes + 1 would be in a team fight... You have enfeeble that reduces damage of one hero by 30/60/90/120 and cannot be removed by anything, 40% damage reduction in an aoe from anchor smash, flat 32 damage reduction on multiple targets from fade bolt, and Razor can steal hundreds of damage from a single hero. They all go through magic immunity except fade bolt.

The obvious counter would be high magical damage but Rubick has passive aoe magic reduction. Just a casual cloak on every hero and you have 50% magic resistance on everyone and no one on the enemy team does notable damage at all. Nightmare also makes static link reduction guaranteed. Laning doesn't look impractical, especially since there's an extra slot leftover, although it doesn't seem particularly strong. The biggest weakest is probably the lack of damage output, so a glass-cannon carry might have the best synergy. Maybe zues, sf, sniper, luna, lycan can work.

Recalling the moments where I've mindgamed people with the 40% anchor smash on Tide, a strategy like this might be useful. Regardless, seeing it in action, with all that damage reduction, would be highly entertaining.


It sounds gimmicky. This lineup doesn't have enough damage to fight against good early game heroes (chen, nightstalker, enchantress etc.). The teamfight potential is decent assuming you're not at a disadvantage in terms of gold and exp.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
February 20 2013 12:21 GMT
#43986
It was probably talked about when it was live but here's the VOD for the Pajkatt interview on the GD Show. Pretty interesting, don't get to hear from LGD.int often. http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/369175919

Their general dota2 segment is pretty good now that they have Bruno too in case you've been ignoring that, it's in the VOD chunk before this on starting at around 1:56:00.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
February 20 2013 12:45 GMT
#43987
Anyone else getting sick of these western picks, especially naix and gyro? -_-

every single goddamn game.
POGGERS
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
February 20 2013 12:49 GMT
#43988
Hell no the western picks are finally fun, no more morph vs am
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 13:04:58
February 20 2013 12:59 GMT
#43989
Good interview with Pajjkat and I agree with his views too, really cool stuff. His view on mid is really interesting.

CK+wisp has gotten boring
I dislike Naix
Fuck PL because fuck PL.

Rest of the picks are fine/fun esp Clockwerk and Puck

The addition of Statsman Bruno for GD studio is amazing btw, it made the Dota 2 segment go from nothing to really something

he needs a hat tho.
WriterXiao8~~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
February 20 2013 13:00 GMT
#43990
On February 20 2013 21:59 Kipsate wrote:
Good interview with Pajjkat and I agree with his views too, really cool stuff.

CK+wisp has gotten boring
I dislike Naix
Fuck PL because fuck PL.

Rest of the picks are fine/fun esp Clockwerk and Puck.

loving clockwerk and puck, but naix is just the new morphling/am, even watching antimage games are more fun now ~_~
POGGERS
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 20 2013 13:08 GMT
#43991
This is like the most variety in picks we had in DotA ever. Except maybe the first 2 weeks after each new patch. But I don't remember when last we saw so many heroes played.
super gg
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
February 20 2013 13:10 GMT
#43992
On February 20 2013 22:08 cecek wrote:
This is like the most variety in picks we had in DotA ever. Except maybe the first 2 weeks after each new patch. But I don't remember when last we saw so many heroes played.

of course i'm discounting the early SL/EMS games when I'm saying I'm getting tired of the same naix/gyro picks. Alchemist, Warlock, Spectre, Silencer... hell yeah. Probably I'm just bored of seeing the same picks due to lack of chinese/SEA doto.
POGGERS
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 13:12:35
February 20 2013 13:12 GMT
#43993
On February 20 2013 22:10 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:08 cecek wrote:
This is like the most variety in picks we had in DotA ever. Except maybe the first 2 weeks after each new patch. But I don't remember when last we saw so many heroes played.

of course i'm discounting the early SL/EMS games when I'm saying I'm getting tired of the same naix/gyro picks. Alchemist, Warlock, Spectre, Silencer... hell yeah. Probably I'm just bored of seeing the same picks due to lack of chinese/SEA doto.

china/sea dota has very much less variety of picks though
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
February 20 2013 13:27 GMT
#43994
On February 20 2013 21:45 konadora wrote:
Anyone else getting sick of these western picks, especially naix and gyro? -_-

every single goddamn game.


I actually prefer seeing the western picks over the chinese ones.

I don't like playing against nyx though.
betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
February 20 2013 13:27 GMT
#43995
at this point i'd kill for some AM games
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
February 20 2013 13:28 GMT
#43996
On February 20 2013 22:12 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:10 konadora wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:08 cecek wrote:
This is like the most variety in picks we had in DotA ever. Except maybe the first 2 weeks after each new patch. But I don't remember when last we saw so many heroes played.

of course i'm discounting the early SL/EMS games when I'm saying I'm getting tired of the same naix/gyro picks. Alchemist, Warlock, Spectre, Silencer... hell yeah. Probably I'm just bored of seeing the same picks due to lack of chinese/SEA doto.

china/sea dota has very much less variety of picks though


IMO I'd say about the same, CN/SEA maybe a bit more innovative regarding role usage.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
February 20 2013 13:28 GMT
#43997
On February 20 2013 22:27 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 21:45 konadora wrote:
Anyone else getting sick of these western picks, especially naix and gyro? -_-

every single goddamn game.


I actually prefer seeing the western picks over the chinese ones.

I don't like playing against nyx though.

i'd rather watch nyx or even antifun over naix
POGGERS
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
February 20 2013 13:29 GMT
#43998
On February 20 2013 22:28 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:27 BlitzerSC wrote:
On February 20 2013 21:45 konadora wrote:
Anyone else getting sick of these western picks, especially naix and gyro? -_-

every single goddamn game.


I actually prefer seeing the western picks over the chinese ones.

I don't like playing against nyx though.

i'd rather watch nyx or even antifun over naix


My bad, I thought you wrote Nyx instead of Naix.
I agree that Naix is a boring hero.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 20 2013 13:30 GMT
#43999
Prophet needs more love !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 20 2013 14:05 GMT
#44000
Prophet IS getting love. Fnatic play him very often. Other teams occasionally, too.
super gg
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