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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:41 FinestHour wrote: The ult is fine but the hero as bad as spectre in terms of item dependancy But she is a good laner The agility growth is just as poor, but Medusa has far better spells than spectre for team fighting. | ||
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Grettin
42414 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:41 ChrisXIV wrote: Needs more Rapier, totally serious there. definitely. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: The agility growth is just as poor, but Medusa has far better spells than spectre for team fighting. Yes thats right but im just not looking forward to some asshole afk for 50 minutes | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:49 FinestHour wrote: Yes thats right but im just not looking forward to some asshole afk for 50 minutes Maybe somebody will develop some build that revolves around mid game teamfighting. I bet it starts with drums. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
scrap the Sheepstick and add in a rapier? Her ult seems pretty good against PL / CK in teamfights. Am I right about this? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Denmark14978 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:40 Sn0_Man wrote: I never played much Dota 1. What does a 6-slot Medusa look like? I'm guessing something like: BoT Linkens Butterfly Manta SheepStick Skadi But that is probably way off? No rapier? ZSMJ would be very disappointed. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:57 Sn0_Man wrote: I guess by super-late the mana shield is so mana intensive (due to it not benefitting from armor etc) that it simply isn't worth the item slot to buff it up a bit? Probably. I'm sure it does it's job fine without a sheep. Sheep just seems like a way to be non-useless so long. Well, the sheep just makes you more useless for longer, as its just delaying the time you will be getting up your butterfly / rapier up, meaning you are spending more time farming (you can probably fight without rapier). You are getting a lot out of mana shield from linkens + skadi, though. Not really sure though. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:49 FinestHour wrote: Yes thats right but im just not looking forward to some asshole afk for 50 minutes i'll be that asshole! | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:57 Sn0_Man wrote: I guess by super-late the mana shield is so mana intensive (due to it not benefitting from armor etc) that it simply isn't worth the item slot to buff it up a bit? Probably. I'm sure it does it's job fine without a sheep. Sheep just seems like a way to be non-useless so long. You don't actually need mana as Medusa though so there is no reason to not use mana shield. At least at level 16 Medusa ult doesn't cost mana. You need almost thirty armor (not that this is hard for an agility hero) for armor to be as effective as 2.75 mana shield. Don't quote me on that math though ^_^ I think it's right | ||
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Denmark14978 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4558 Posts
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Denmark14978 Posts
Once you're at BoT, linken, manta, butterfly, satanic and skadhi. Which item would you replace with a rapier, IF you were going for a rapier? @Above, don't max split shot first, max mystic snake. Also linken sphere is a farming item, medusa needs mana regen to farm and synergizes well with her mana shield. Split shot doesn't make sense when both your attack speed and damage is low. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:15 Laurens wrote: Soo, I gave her a try, are you meant to max Q first and farm lanes with that? Also why is linkens more important than say butterfly/yasha ? Is Q her split shot? If so, no, they comes last. You need your mystic snake (bog standard nuke with a twist) and your mana shield (for survivability) first. Your split shot comes last as getting it early is useless (you do little damage, so having a skill which does a % of your damage does relatively little early in the game), and it ends up pushing your lane making it harder for you to farm. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Denmark14978 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:16 TheYango wrote: Also, this discussion is pointless until we know for certain how Split Shot interacts with orbs/crit/etc. in DotA 2. DotA 1 Medusa was limited a lot by how certain things interacted with Split Shot (e.g. Crits disable Split Shot entirely on the attack they proc). I went to test. Skadhi and lifesteal work the way they did in DotA1. From testing mjolner for a while, only main targets procced chain ligthning. Only main targets were applied with desolator debuff and only main targets had mana removed from feedback And she can crit just fine with split-shot. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:25 Unleashing wrote: I went to test. Skadhi and lifesteal work the way they did in DotA1. From testing mjolner for a while, only main targets procced chain ligthning. Only main targets were applied with desolator debuff and only main targets had mana removed from feedback And she can crit just fine with split-shot. Split shot can crit--does this mean only on the main target, or on secondary targets as well? And if secondary targets crit, do they crit along with the main shot, or do they crit independently? How does Evasion interact with her secondary shots now? | ||
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