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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Dooba
Croatia588 Posts
If any of you kind souls could just go bump that thread up. Many of us have this issue and we need it fixed.  | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
His lack of diversity in hero pool is killing him. | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:53 igotmyown wrote: Mouz slumping against notidehunter now. Black, arguably the best #1 in the western world is being the weak link, losing against a solo bounty hunter. His lack of diversity in hero pool is killing him. Wasn't there a rumor he was going to leave dota2 and go to sc2 hots? Agreed, however. He is a great last hitter and one of the best farmers, but he needs to learn / actually draft another carry hero to allow new strategies. He can only be put on solo vs solo so many times. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On December 21 2012 06:11 Comeh wrote: Wasn't there a rumor he was going to leave dota2 and go to sc2 hots? Agreed, however. He is a great last hitter and one of the best farmers, but he needs to learn / actually draft another carry hero to allow new strategies. He can only be put on solo vs solo so many times. Black doesnt seem to have that much motivation for the game, when he isin shape he was carrying the mouz lineup to silvers but now you can see what happends when he isnt prepared. You're right about the solo v solo thing, he really thrives the best in that kind of lane. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On December 21 2012 06:11 Comeh wrote: Wasn't there a rumor he was going to leave dota2 and go to sc2 hots? Agreed, however. He is a great last hitter and one of the best farmers, but he needs to learn / actually draft another carry hero to allow new strategies. He can only be put on solo vs solo so many times. Apparently that was just an outburst brought on by frustration that mouz was performing horribly, to which the community massively overreacted to. He isn't really switching. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 21 2012 06:17 Iplaythings wrote: Black doesnt seem to have that much motivation for the game, when he isin shape he was carrying the mouz lineup to silvers but now you can see what happends when he isnt prepared. You're right about the solo v solo thing, he really thrives the best in that kind of lane. Speaking of which, does he play Lone Druid? I can't recall him playing that hero, which seems odd considering the number of times i've seen him solo on the safe lane with a clinkz. Edit: Yeah, I just remembered about Dota Academy - here's the list of heroes he has played (he does play LD) http://dota-academy.com/player/341/ Edit: #2 - I just looked up XBOCT's profile as well, since there was a lot of talk about his "undiverse" hero pool - http://dota-academy.com/player/9/ It seems like barring a few heroes (AM, CK, NS) - he seems to have a couple games on a lot of different heroes, which leads me to believe he can play a lot of them. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Playing it against X western C/D tier team does not count. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 21 2012 07:35 Kipsate wrote: He doesn't play Sylla, which is one of his greatest weaknesses if not the greatest in terms of hero diversity. Playing it against X western C/D tier team does not count. Ah, I didn't look at the specific games - but I totally agree about Sylla. He's one of the best carries in the game - having one of the strongest laning phase, a very potent midgame that can be a solid basis around pushing, and still a very good lategame. His ability to control teamfights with roots is invaluable against melee carries like AM and Void (post-chrono), and makes him a great chaser after the fight has ended. He's also one of the few carries that you can feel very comfortable picking up in the first three picks, because he has some diversity in how he can be laned. This is one of the main reasons I've been drafting / playing him so much lately  .-Sidenote: I really need to learn how to offlane this hero against more than one hero - its tough to know when its safe to pull creeps or not - I feel like my bear ends up taking too much damage...but if I dont, I feel like I am in too big of a threat to last hit on lane. | ||
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forelmashi
421 Posts
anyone else getting th is? | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
On December 21 2012 04:03 r.Evo wrote: XBOCT CK IS STILL KING http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNw6RsHZ5js&feature=player_detailpage That video is way too good, has to be staged. I can only imagine stream chat when that happened lol. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:53 igotmyown wrote: I don't think I could argue that Black is the best carry in the west when he's never played for one of the best teams. Sure, Mouz had it's moments, but against top teams the only way they won was when 4 people were clowning around and Black farmed unattended. Yes, he's had big GPM numbers, but how often do we see him farm from behind? How often do we see him farm while still being very active in fights? Rarely.Mouz slumping against notidehunter now. Black, arguably the best #1 in the western world is being the weak link, losing against a solo bounty hunter. His lack of diversity in hero pool is killing him. And I'm not saying that's because Black is bad, it's just that his team isn't on the level that we'd even know. I just have a hard time seeing how he's a cut above blow/airman/korok/aui/loda/anyone. Except for those games we see where he has 900gpm, but is having high gpm a good thing? It typically just means that you should have been able to finish this game already. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On December 21 2012 08:22 Emnjay808 wrote: That video is way too good, has to be staged. I can only imagine stream chat when that happened lol. I cracked up when that happened, was the funnest part of the game to me. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Talking about old mouz here. | ||
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Autotroph
United Kingdom940 Posts
On December 20 2012 20:02 Firebolt145 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Console net_graph 1 - activates it net_graphproportionalfont 0 - makes everything smaller net_graphinsettop/bottom XXX - play with the numbers to position it vertically net_graphinsetright/left XXX - play with the numbers to position it horizontally Cheers man | ||
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iloveoil
Norway171 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
On December 21 2012 09:19 Numy wrote: Howcome everyone forgets old Pajkaat when talking about Western carry players ;(. He should easily be up there in contention for top dog. LGD.int isn't playing in a whole lot of tournaments if I'm not mistaken People tend to easily forget | ||
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