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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
December 04 2012 05:17 GMT
#31841
On December 04 2012 13:53 rwrzr wrote:
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On December 04 2012 13:33 Implenia wrote:
On December 04 2012 13:31 Doraemon wrote:
with all the complaining about MM and clueless teammates

this is an idea that could be implemented, although i am myself against it, have a set of "trials or campaign" where a player must complete before they can join MM permanentely. this is just to cover the basics of calling missing, warding, couriers and any other basic dota concepts

Tutorials have been announced, strings have already been implemented, it will come soon. Making it mandatory is just tedious. Beginners will play it, advanced players will skip it.


Give incentive i.e. items or sex coupons.

Fly in Gaben personally to coach you for 2 hours because today teaching yourself is too hard. Seriously when the bots were set to hard by default I had so many people dc after 5 minute because they got stomped. How can you even not figure out that there are different bot settings by yourself? I'm getting old and bitter.
whatgoat
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada34 Posts
December 04 2012 05:43 GMT
#31842
On December 04 2012 11:56 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 11:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:11 r.Evo wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:09 Doraemon wrote:
On December 04 2012 10:54 r.Evo wrote:
I would kill for aussies in my games. Aussies and Scottish / Irish people. I'm pretty sure it's impossible for me to tilt when I have either of those on voice coms. :3


i really should get my mic going then i only play on US west...ive had russians, indonesians, chinese and a lot of australians in games.

You should be used to horrible ping no matter where you play, come east! =P


haha. i can play 300ms perfectly fine, but i think it's a little worse on east. playing with TL guys is fun, rage less and you're guaranteed to play with at least one person that knows the basics. haha

and 9/10 times if they don't know the basics but are from tl they WANT to know the basics and will take advice.


Eh I got grouped up with a Clinkz (a TLer) that got 0 searing arrows (stats instead), who also complained about Clinkz's mana usage and then says Orchid is a bad item for Clinkz.


hahahahahahahaha oh god how deep is the trench
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
December 04 2012 05:44 GMT
#31843
Hey has anyone ever seen a team get 2 couriers as a legit strategy? Maybe one for crowing and one for the jungler?
3Y3S
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada177 Posts
December 04 2012 06:07 GMT
#31844
On December 04 2012 14:44 Attakijing wrote:
Hey has anyone ever seen a team get 2 couriers as a legit strategy? Maybe one for crowing and one for the jungler?

It was quite common in dota 1 in the Filipino scene, where bottle crowing was running rampant, you would get two couriers and get like 3 bottles and keep on constantly bottle crowing and spamming. i don't know how common it is now though, most people would probably say its a waste, you can probably just get most of it done with one courier.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 04 2012 06:18 GMT
#31845
On December 04 2012 14:43 whatgoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 11:56 Pseudoku wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:11 r.Evo wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:09 Doraemon wrote:
On December 04 2012 10:54 r.Evo wrote:
I would kill for aussies in my games. Aussies and Scottish / Irish people. I'm pretty sure it's impossible for me to tilt when I have either of those on voice coms. :3


i really should get my mic going then i only play on US west...ive had russians, indonesians, chinese and a lot of australians in games.

You should be used to horrible ping no matter where you play, come east! =P


haha. i can play 300ms perfectly fine, but i think it's a little worse on east. playing with TL guys is fun, rage less and you're guaranteed to play with at least one person that knows the basics. haha

and 9/10 times if they don't know the basics but are from tl they WANT to know the basics and will take advice.


Eh I got grouped up with a Clinkz (a TLer) that got 0 searing arrows (stats instead), who also complained about Clinkz's mana usage and then says Orchid is a bad item for Clinkz.


hahahahahahahaha oh god how deep is the trench

reminds me of this

On November 29 2012 05:15 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
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On November 29 2012 04:46 ToguRo wrote:
dumb question ... are you supposed to use flaming arrows to last hit with clinkz ? the attack delay is making it hard for me to get the last hits

Proof that this wasn't a dumb question: you got several conflicting yet smart answers.

I'm generally against it because of the low mana pool. I would rather lose 5 last hits in the lane than die or miss a kill due to not enough mana.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 04 2012 06:46 GMT
#31846
On December 04 2012 15:07 3Y3S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 14:44 Attakijing wrote:
Hey has anyone ever seen a team get 2 couriers as a legit strategy? Maybe one for crowing and one for the jungler?

It was quite common in dota 1 in the Filipino scene, where bottle crowing was running rampant, you would get two couriers and get like 3 bottles and keep on constantly bottle crowing and spamming. i don't know how common it is now though, most people would probably say its a waste, you can probably just get most of it done with one courier.

CROW CROW CROW
CROW CROW CROW
(It's actually one for long lane solo or the mid typically and the other for typical use. It really depends on the heroes but super mana dependent heroes do benefit greatly from it. I don't see it done often anymore but it was frequently done by fnaticrc back in their hon days.

I really need to stop posting drunk.

In dota 1 I saw people go guinsoo's more than orchid on clinkz, which makes sense to me. I understand the change in item preference (orchid is now far cheaper) but guinsoo's is so much better on him.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 04 2012 06:54 GMT
#31847
On December 04 2012 15:46 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 15:07 3Y3S wrote:
On December 04 2012 14:44 Attakijing wrote:
Hey has anyone ever seen a team get 2 couriers as a legit strategy? Maybe one for crowing and one for the jungler?

It was quite common in dota 1 in the Filipino scene, where bottle crowing was running rampant, you would get two couriers and get like 3 bottles and keep on constantly bottle crowing and spamming. i don't know how common it is now though, most people would probably say its a waste, you can probably just get most of it done with one courier.

CROW CROW CROW
CROW CROW CROW
(It's actually one for long lane solo or the mid typically and the other for typical use. It really depends on the heroes but super mana dependent heroes do benefit greatly from it. I don't see it done often anymore but it was frequently done by fnaticrc back in their hon days.

I really need to stop posting drunk.

In dota 1 I saw people go guinsoo's more than orchid on clinkz, which makes sense to me. I understand the change in item preference (orchid is now far cheaper) but guinsoo's is so much better on him.

guinsoos costs a lot more and the duration is less. it really depends on what heroes you're killing since the only thing stopping them from getting away is what items they have and use

having 2 couriers is nice to have if you have multiple randoms, but its not easy to get away with in competitive games
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 04 2012 07:19 GMT
#31848
Orchid also has a far better buildup. 2xOblivion Staff is very smooth, while a first-item Sheep would mean you're buying Ult Orb + Mystic Staff (very weird development for an Agi hero), or Ult Orb + Void Stone then sitting on cash for 2700 gold.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 04 2012 07:54 GMT
#31849
On December 04 2012 14:43 whatgoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 11:56 Pseudoku wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:11 r.Evo wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:09 Doraemon wrote:
On December 04 2012 10:54 r.Evo wrote:
I would kill for aussies in my games. Aussies and Scottish / Irish people. I'm pretty sure it's impossible for me to tilt when I have either of those on voice coms. :3


i really should get my mic going then i only play on US west...ive had russians, indonesians, chinese and a lot of australians in games.

You should be used to horrible ping no matter where you play, come east! =P


haha. i can play 300ms perfectly fine, but i think it's a little worse on east. playing with TL guys is fun, rage less and you're guaranteed to play with at least one person that knows the basics. haha

and 9/10 times if they don't know the basics but are from tl they WANT to know the basics and will take advice.


Eh I got grouped up with a Clinkz (a TLer) that got 0 searing arrows (stats instead), who also complained about Clinkz's mana usage and then says Orchid is a bad item for Clinkz.


hahahahahahahaha oh god how deep is the trench

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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 07:58:40
December 04 2012 07:57 GMT
#31850
On December 04 2012 15:54 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 15:46 Nevuk wrote:
On December 04 2012 15:07 3Y3S wrote:
On December 04 2012 14:44 Attakijing wrote:
Hey has anyone ever seen a team get 2 couriers as a legit strategy? Maybe one for crowing and one for the jungler?

It was quite common in dota 1 in the Filipino scene, where bottle crowing was running rampant, you would get two couriers and get like 3 bottles and keep on constantly bottle crowing and spamming. i don't know how common it is now though, most people would probably say its a waste, you can probably just get most of it done with one courier.

CROW CROW CROW
CROW CROW CROW
(It's actually one for long lane solo or the mid typically and the other for typical use. It really depends on the heroes but super mana dependent heroes do benefit greatly from it. I don't see it done often anymore but it was frequently done by fnaticrc back in their hon days.

I really need to stop posting drunk.

In dota 1 I saw people go guinsoo's more than orchid on clinkz, which makes sense to me. I understand the change in item preference (orchid is now far cheaper) but guinsoo's is so much better on him.

guinsoos costs a lot more and the duration is less. it really depends on what heroes you're killing since the only thing stopping them from getting away is what items they have and use

having 2 couriers is nice to have if you have multiple randoms, but its not easy to get away with in competitive games


2 Couriers aren't that hard to get. You mostly don't want to though since the early gold is so important. You basically run 3 buyers early game, the support, the jungler, one of the core heroes. Or if you predict you will have safe tri vs solo you can send out both of your support on ~200 gold to get that fast courier. Problem comes in upgrading it, the one bottle crowing usually has to do that for one.

You could also rosh level one to get the extra gold needed for it, probably the most viable way of doing it.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
December 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#31851
Due to a very friendly TL member I recently came into possession of a Key.

Are the servers perpetually offline?

I can't seem to login, it just says something about establishing connection and nothing happens for ages.
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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
December 04 2012 08:16 GMT
#31852
On December 04 2012 17:10 kafkaesque wrote:
Due to a very friendly TL member I recently came into possession of a Key.

Are the servers perpetually offline?

I can't seem to login, it just says something about establishing connection and nothing happens for ages.


Servers sometimes go on maintenance, but they announce it at dev.dota2.com
Logic fails because we are lazy.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
December 04 2012 08:17 GMT
#31853
On December 04 2012 17:16 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 17:10 kafkaesque wrote:
Due to a very friendly TL member I recently came into possession of a Key.

Are the servers perpetually offline?

I can't seem to login, it just says something about establishing connection and nothing happens for ages.


Servers sometimes go on maintenance, but they announce it at dev.dota2.com


But they haven't been offline permanently for the past 3 days, I assume?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 04 2012 08:20 GMT
#31854
On December 04 2012 17:17 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 17:16 Pseudoku wrote:
On December 04 2012 17:10 kafkaesque wrote:
Due to a very friendly TL member I recently came into possession of a Key.

Are the servers perpetually offline?

I can't seem to login, it just says something about establishing connection and nothing happens for ages.


Servers sometimes go on maintenance, but they announce it at dev.dota2.com


But they haven't been offline permanently for the past 3 days, I assume?

Definitely not. That's something wrong on your end. :/
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
December 04 2012 08:27 GMT
#31855
Any notion what might be wrong? SC2 works flawlessly.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 04 2012 08:28 GMT
#31856
On December 04 2012 17:27 kafkaesque wrote:
Any notion what might be wrong? SC2 works flawlessly.

Has your firewall blocked the connection?
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
December 04 2012 08:36 GMT
#31857
Nah, I've got Dota and Steam whitelisted @ windows firewall.

Such a pitty, I really wanted to check it out.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 04 2012 08:39 GMT
#31858
Have you tried verifying game files or reinstalling? Or even rebooting your computer/router?
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
December 04 2012 09:58 GMT
#31859
I do not know why but I really hate playing shadow demon. Sometimes it can be fun but I often find him to be such a bore.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 04 2012 10:33 GMT
#31860
Bc you're not playing him right. Go mid, kill lane, get blink/eblade win game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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