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On November 08 2012 14:05 Nilrem wrote: Alright folks, that is enough with the LoL trolling :-) I realize it is fun and all but let us not degrade this thread further.
The champion we need
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On November 08 2012 14:31 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 14:05 Nilrem wrote: Alright folks, that is enough with the LoL trolling :-) I realize it is fun and all but let us not degrade this thread further. The champion we need
I hate you torte :-P
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OMG these wards so cute!!!! I am going to make people donate them to me!!!!
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On November 08 2012 09:34 Torte de Lini wrote: Blahz0r was talking shit last night rofl. What do you suggest?
Yea. Here's an example: Using a Disruptor over say a Rubick is more useful? Even if you consider using glimpse to get an opposing hero to Rosh faster it doesn't make up for the lack of damage he can do. Rubick's nuke does as much as Disruptor's ulti (and when time starts to drop, duration of this skill is even more worthless) and he can spell steal for 2 more possible nukes if that's what you choose. TP time starts to matter more when the record is going to be less than 3 seconds.
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New cycle with the pathc? :D
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Medusa first or Slark first?
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Again, sorry about last night guys. I was really cranky and irritable ):
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Give this lineup a try imo: ES lina lion naga pugna undying LD rubick ogre SF (this is not sorted by teams)
Someone told me sleep works and if so, you can have rubick copy it. Also find a xboct tier ogre otherwise sub it for a different hero.
I hope people can understand the xboct tier joke here...
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On November 08 2012 15:25 blahz0r wrote: Give this lineup a try imo: ES lina lion naga pugna undying LD rubick ogre SF (this is not sorted by teams)
Someone told me sleep works and if so, you can have rubick copy it. Also find a xboct tier ogre otherwise sub it for a different hero.
I hope people can understand the xboct tier joke here... Sleep prevents you from getting stunned, it doesn't prevent you from getting moved to fountains. So practically speaking, you want at least 3 people who have movement skills that bring them back once they've been fountain-ported. That's the purpose of Morph/Kunkka/etc.
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Being there instantly isn't important unless you're going for one shots. You don't have enough time on your spells to use them a third time over. The only difference is that it makes getting there more complicated.
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On November 08 2012 15:40 blahz0r wrote: Being there instantly isn't important unless you're going for one shots. You don't have enough time on your spells to use them a third time over. The only difference is that it makes getting there more complicated. It does because of the issue of staggered TP channel times. If you have more than 2 people TPing in, you can't guarantee that everyone will get there in time for the kill.
At this point, there are two possibilities: - Kill with Orchid--there are enough ways to get a kill with Orchid that the minor differences don't matter. It comes down to execution. The Orchid user just needs to Orchid Rosh, everyone dumps their shit, and then Rosh dies after 5 seconds. The current record uses Orchid, meaning their Orchid went down at 20:00.13, which requires extremely good ping to be able to beat. By the end of last night, we were at the point where we were just trying to execute this, and just couldn't quite beat their execution. - Kill without Orchid--theorized that it's possible to get a sub-5 second kill without using Orchid (Orchid use guarantees a 5+ second kill because you're waiting on the Orchid's 30% extra damage to finish him off), but it requires all 10 people to be there virtually immediately (leeway for 1-2 TPs). Less than that and you don't have enough damage to clear him before 5 seconds if it's even possible.
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No you can put creeps enough distance away to prevent TP time issue(meaning you get hod for everyone in p1 and place creeps at blink distance away since everyone has afree slot for a blink anyways). Just roughly put this into test in a practice lobby.
Also kupon says chen for LD. whatever
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The minor details don't matter on 5+ second with-Orchid kills. There are enough ways to do it that it's pretty much just execution/luck beating someone able to cast Orchid at 20:00.13. It's just whether sub-5 second Orchid-less kills are possible/feasible at this point.
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Sure they are. That's what Ogre and SF are for. I got around 30k ish on Ogre damage output and checked with others to see what they got. Assuming everything goes right, you can meet/exceed orchid's damage output. Also because being there instantly doesn't matter as much since you can execute everything within 2 seconds with more damage from heroes that have higher damage output (along with more multipliers being present).
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On November 08 2012 15:05 dragonblade369 wrote: Medusa first or Slark first? definitely slark... WHO WOULD WANT A SECOND AM? -_-...
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LOL nexon supporting dota 2, where my nx points at
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I have a hard time seeing dota 2 getting anywhere in Korea, LoL is just too integrated there now I think. The ones that wants to play dota play dota, the masses there that doesn't know about dota and its charm will probably have the same kind of attitude torwards it like the LoL core here in the west has and neglect it.
But maybe I'm wrong? I hope I'm wrong because it would be alot of fun to have Korea in the game.
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On November 08 2012 18:30 Gosi wrote:I have a hard time seeing dota 2 getting anywhere in Korea, LoL is just too integrated there now I think. The ones that wants to play dota play dota, the masses there that doesn't know about dota and its charm will probably have the same kind of attitude torwards it like the LoL core here in the west has and neglect it. But maybe I'm wrong? I hope I'm wrong because it would be alot of fun to have Korea in the game. believe it or not most people in korea are actually waiting for Dota2 alot
koreans did have a dislike for HoN but most netizens believe Dota2 will be interesting, not to mention many koreans are more open to trying 'new' games
also guys please dont start that "but koreans hate dota and played chaos" stuff its not true. while koreans did play chaos a vast amount played dota
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