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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 08 2012 05:31 GMT
#28861
On November 08 2012 14:05 Nilrem wrote:
Alright folks, that is enough with the LoL trolling :-) I realize it is fun and all but let us not degrade this thread further.


The champion we need
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 08 2012 05:35 GMT
#28862
On November 08 2012 14:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 14:05 Nilrem wrote:
Alright folks, that is enough with the LoL trolling :-) I realize it is fun and all but let us not degrade this thread further.


The champion we need


I hate you torte :-P
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 08 2012 05:41 GMT
#28863
On November 08 2012 12:24 Fwizzz wrote:
Slark
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Also cosmetic wards
http://imgur.com/a/vn7Lj#0


OMG these wards so cute!!!! I am going to make people donate them to me!!!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
November 08 2012 05:46 GMT
#28864
On November 08 2012 09:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
Blahz0r was talking shit last night rofl.
What do you suggest?


Yea. Here's an example: Using a Disruptor over say a Rubick is more useful? Even if you consider using glimpse to get an opposing hero to Rosh faster it doesn't make up for the lack of damage he can do. Rubick's nuke does as much as Disruptor's ulti (and when time starts to drop, duration of this skill is even more worthless) and he can spell steal for 2 more possible nukes if that's what you choose. TP time starts to matter more when the record is going to be less than 3 seconds.

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 08 2012 06:03 GMT
#28865
New cycle with the pathc? :D
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
November 08 2012 06:05 GMT
#28866
Medusa first or Slark first?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 08 2012 06:15 GMT
#28867
Again, sorry about last night guys. I was really cranky and irritable ):
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
November 08 2012 06:25 GMT
#28868
Give this lineup a try imo:
ES lina lion naga pugna undying LD rubick ogre SF (this is not sorted by teams)

Someone told me sleep works and if so, you can have rubick copy it. Also find a xboct tier ogre otherwise sub it for a different hero.

I hope people can understand the xboct tier joke here...
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 06:37:34
November 08 2012 06:37 GMT
#28869
On November 08 2012 15:25 blahz0r wrote:
Give this lineup a try imo:
ES lina lion naga pugna undying LD rubick ogre SF (this is not sorted by teams)

Someone told me sleep works and if so, you can have rubick copy it. Also find a xboct tier ogre otherwise sub it for a different hero.

I hope people can understand the xboct tier joke here...

Sleep prevents you from getting stunned, it doesn't prevent you from getting moved to fountains. So practically speaking, you want at least 3 people who have movement skills that bring them back once they've been fountain-ported. That's the purpose of Morph/Kunkka/etc.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
November 08 2012 06:40 GMT
#28870
Being there instantly isn't important unless you're going for one shots. You don't have enough time on your spells to use them a third time over. The only difference is that it makes getting there more complicated.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:00:15
November 08 2012 06:58 GMT
#28871
On November 08 2012 15:40 blahz0r wrote:
Being there instantly isn't important unless you're going for one shots. You don't have enough time on your spells to use them a third time over. The only difference is that it makes getting there more complicated.

It does because of the issue of staggered TP channel times. If you have more than 2 people TPing in, you can't guarantee that everyone will get there in time for the kill.

At this point, there are two possibilities:
- Kill with Orchid--there are enough ways to get a kill with Orchid that the minor differences don't matter. It comes down to execution. The Orchid user just needs to Orchid Rosh, everyone dumps their shit, and then Rosh dies after 5 seconds. The current record uses Orchid, meaning their Orchid went down at 20:00.13, which requires extremely good ping to be able to beat. By the end of last night, we were at the point where we were just trying to execute this, and just couldn't quite beat their execution.
- Kill without Orchid--theorized that it's possible to get a sub-5 second kill without using Orchid (Orchid use guarantees a 5+ second kill because you're waiting on the Orchid's 30% extra damage to finish him off), but it requires all 10 people to be there virtually immediately (leeway for 1-2 TPs). Less than that and you don't have enough damage to clear him before 5 seconds if it's even possible.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:00:33
November 08 2012 06:59 GMT
#28872
No you can put creeps enough distance away to prevent TP time issue(meaning you get hod for everyone in p1 and place creeps at blink distance away since everyone has afree slot for a blink anyways). Just roughly put this into test in a practice lobby.

Also kupon says chen for LD. whatever

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:04:02
November 08 2012 07:03 GMT
#28873
The minor details don't matter on 5+ second with-Orchid kills. There are enough ways to do it that it's pretty much just execution/luck beating someone able to cast Orchid at 20:00.13. It's just whether sub-5 second Orchid-less kills are possible/feasible at this point.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
November 08 2012 07:51 GMT
#28874
Sure they are. That's what Ogre and SF are for. I got around 30k ish on Ogre damage output and checked with others to see what they got. Assuming everything goes right, you can meet/exceed orchid's damage output. Also because being there instantly doesn't matter as much since you can execute everything within 2 seconds with more damage from heroes that have higher damage output (along with more multipliers being present).
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 08 2012 09:08 GMT
#28875
http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/11/08/4397293/nexon-and-valve-partner-to-launch.html

doterz coming to korea and japan :O
dats racist
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 08 2012 09:12 GMT
#28876
On November 08 2012 15:05 dragonblade369 wrote:
Medusa first or Slark first?

definitely slark... WHO WOULD WANT A SECOND AM? -_-...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 08 2012 09:21 GMT
#28877
LOL nexon supporting dota 2, where my nx points at
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
November 08 2012 09:30 GMT
#28878
On November 08 2012 18:08 MrHoon wrote:
http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/11/08/4397293/nexon-and-valve-partner-to-launch.html

doterz coming to korea and japan :O

I have a hard time seeing dota 2 getting anywhere in Korea, LoL is just too integrated there now I think. The ones that wants to play dota play dota, the masses there that doesn't know about dota and its charm will probably have the same kind of attitude torwards it like the LoL core here in the west has and neglect it.

But maybe I'm wrong? I hope I'm wrong because it would be alot of fun to have Korea in the game.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 09:38:52
November 08 2012 09:38 GMT
#28879
On November 08 2012 18:30 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 18:08 MrHoon wrote:
http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/11/08/4397293/nexon-and-valve-partner-to-launch.html

doterz coming to korea and japan :O

I have a hard time seeing dota 2 getting anywhere in Korea, LoL is just too integrated there now I think. The ones that wants to play dota play dota, the masses there that doesn't know about dota and its charm will probably have the same kind of attitude torwards it like the LoL core here in the west has and neglect it.

But maybe I'm wrong? I hope I'm wrong because it would be alot of fun to have Korea in the game.

believe it or not most people in korea are actually waiting for Dota2 alot

koreans did have a dislike for HoN but most netizens believe Dota2 will be interesting, not to mention many koreans are more open to trying 'new' games


also guys please dont start that "but koreans hate dota and played chaos" stuff its not true. while koreans did play chaos a vast amount played dota
dats racist
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
November 08 2012 09:39 GMT
#28880
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