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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 21:47:00
November 02 2012 21:44 GMT
#28061
It takes at least three seconds to get outside of fountain range and then an extra two seconds to kill so given 4 second respawn earliest assuming you have 5 people sitting just out of fount. you can get a kill is 10 seconds after previous kill which is at best 30 kills a minute and that still only 300 kills which is 540 strength still no where near half of what you say you can easily get. even ignoring respawn time altogether you'd only get just over a thousand strength add to that your spells won't cooldown 5 times every 10 seconds so you'll need to be doing it solely with autos which means you need to somehow get enough damage on the 5 of you to deal 500 damage in 1 hit, and then there is projectile travel time adding a second on to each kill ect ect ect ect it's just not possible
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 02 2012 21:50 GMT
#28062
Assuming 5 people camping the pool plus every hero dying every 5 seconds (4 s respawn 1 s kill) then you are talking 600 deaths at 10 minutes, ignoring getting to the pool and early slow kill speed.

So absolute best case scenario is 1200 Kills (and 5 level 1 heroes to attack rosh lol).

Doesn't seem like it will work too hot TBH. Pudge kinda lacks any steriod skills to take advantage of the extra damage too.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 22:11:51
November 02 2012 21:50 GMT
#28063
i just tried it
let me upload this screenshot
it's EASILY doable rofl

edit: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=106244114
here it is, the first 2 minutes were leveling up
after that it's instant kill on spawn
i didn't put pudge in the right spot for ~2 minutes, i didn't realize he wasn't getting str from every kill
go test it yourself if you want, just spawn drow + pudge + sniper next to their fountain

edit2: okay easily might be a bit of an overstatement
i think 1000+ is definitely easily doable
2000+ is doable but it's kinda hard, the problem is positioning pudge so he gets maximum str
after a while it doesn't matter though, you can just courier a heart + ac and tank it forever after 10ish minutes
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 21:51:42
November 02 2012 21:51 GMT
#28064
On November 03 2012 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Assuming 5 people camping the pool plus every hero dying every 5 seconds (4 s respawn 1 s kill) then you are talking 600 deaths at 10 minutes, ignoring getting to the pool and early slow kill speed.

So absolute best case scenario is 1200 Kills (and 5 level 1 heroes to attack rosh lol).

Doesn't seem like it will work too hot TBH. Pudge kinda lacks any steriod skills to take advantage of the extra damage too.

and that best case scenerio is no where near realistic at all, given the nature of the fountain with regards to healing and range. let alone kill speed
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 02 2012 22:17 GMT
#28065
On November 03 2012 06:50 Dead9 wrote:
edit2: okay easily might be a bit of an overstatement
i think 1000+ is definitely easily doable
2000+ is doable but it's kinda hard, the problem is positioning pudge so he gets maximum str
after a while it doesn't matter though, you can just courier a heart + ac and tank it forever after 10ish minutes

The thing is, you don't have the full 20 minutes, because after some time, you have to start getting gold/levels on everyone.

1000+ seems practical, 2000+ seems ambitious. Possibly useful, but not so much so that it completely trumps everything else. It could probably oust some of the poorer performers among the existing clearing heroes (e.g. Ursa becomes less and less useful for shorter kills).
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 02 2012 22:20 GMT
#28066
Have the record replays made sure that there was a DD rune active for the start of the rosh fight to go in with a DD on someone?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 02 2012 22:20 GMT
#28067
yeah 2000 probably isn't a good idea
i don't even think pudge is a good idea
this was mostly in response to this tho
On November 03 2012 06:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 06:26 Dead9 wrote:
On November 03 2012 06:21 NB wrote:
On November 03 2012 06:03 Dead9 wrote:
you might be able to feed pudge fast enough, there's no base towers so he can just sit there and kill things
might be worth it, you can probably get 2000+ str pretty comfortably

hero level up when we put candies in the bucket therefore increase death time, not sure if 2000+ is really possible that case.

obviously if you put candies in the bucket it's not gonna be possible
guess how u solve that

you'll get 180 strength if you feed pudge 5 men for 10 minutes. no where near 2000.

even if you spend the entire time feeding pudge it won't be anywhere close to 1k let alone 2k

NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 03 2012 00:45 GMT
#28068
how do you transfer items from smurf to main steam account without a 2nd computer .

Also: are we doing the golden thingy tonight? NADotA is also doing a run as PainItGold posted earlier on his twitter.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 03 2012 00:55 GMT
#28069
On November 03 2012 09:45 NB wrote:
how do you transfer items from smurf to main steam account without a 2nd computer .

Also: are we doing the golden thingy tonight? NADotA is also doing a run as PainItGold posted earlier on his twitter.


Have a trusted friend? I know there are times when I need the help of a friend to transfer items between my main and smurf account. Can't be helped; of course there are other ways but depends on your Pc. Like, there is always the use of a virtual machine but friends just be simpler.

Also, why does Quas refuse to drop for me... this game hates me.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
November 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#28070
On November 03 2012 09:55 Nilrem wrote:
Also, why does Quas refuse to drop for me... this game hates me.

I've got the opposite problem, all I've been getting is Quas.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#28071
Got three exorts in a row and im growing tired of diretide, so i guess im pretty much set.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
November 03 2012 01:17 GMT
#28072
I have my seraphic egg completed, no more diretide for me! ^_^
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 03 2012 01:23 GMT
#28073
congrats lol. i'd probably just want a black one if i had the patience to play diretide.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
November 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#28074
Koroks finally streaming.

Christmas arrived early for me.
Skol
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 02:05:18
November 03 2012 01:33 GMT
#28075
On November 03 2012 10:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
I have my seraphic egg completed, no more diretide for me! ^_^


I have 5 essences of all colours (and 2 unusuals) and I have 2 eggs! Still haven't decide what should i go for, i am thinking to make a purple for a special someone.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#28076
On November 03 2012 10:12 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 09:55 Nilrem wrote:
Also, why does Quas refuse to drop for me... this game hates me.

I've got the opposite problem, all I've been getting is Quas.


We may have to trade haha.

I found out the ahrd way that this minipatch they added made it so when we sheep Rosh, he comes a massive pig and the person who sheeps it, gets hex'd as well. So, no more perma sheep for tinker.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
November 03 2012 01:46 GMT
#28077
so seems like tinker has been countered for cycle 3

pretty cool how they are making it harder and harder

wonder what it will be for cycle 12 or whatever the last one is
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 03 2012 01:54 GMT
#28078
I think this means cycle 3 starting soon, ASSEMBLING THE 10 MEN TRAIN?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
November 03 2012 02:22 GMT
#28079
On November 03 2012 09:45 NB wrote:
how do you transfer items from smurf to main steam account without a 2nd computer .

Also: are we doing the golden thingy tonight? NADotA is also doing a run as PainItGold posted earlier on his twitter.

Sandboxie
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 03 2012 02:30 GMT
#28080
On November 03 2012 10:54 NB wrote:
I think this means cycle 3 starting soon, ASSEMBLING THE 10 MEN TRAIN?


I was just thinking, Avengers Assemble! Maybe come up with another name.. hmm
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
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