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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 25 2012 20:49 GMT
#26461
On October 26 2012 05:29 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 05:17 BurningSera wrote:
I.........dont even know what to say about this MM. So i was smurfing, yes and i feel dirty but i really enjoy doing 2bstone on my undying, so, 2 games later i am in High skill game (I have a total of 5 games on this account) and suddenly the whole team is retarded while the opponents have smoke/ward 24/7 etc. Still manage to make a long game til 50mins because I was void. But this MM...are we supposed to carry this whole team 2v5???

the point of smurfing is to lose games. otherwise you might as well get on your actual account


T_T And i thought the whole point of smurfing is to do 5bufry qop or VANGOD builds etc.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 25 2012 20:54 GMT
#26462
I'm actually worried, I've been winning too many games on my smurf even with the most retarded builds.

I went double bfury on Lion the other day, when asked I explained it was 'to cleave the PL illusions', and the enemy bounty hunter + PL spent the next 40 minutes trying to explain to me that cleave doesn't work for ranged. I ended up winning with a score of 25/10.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 20:58:15
October 25 2012 20:57 GMT
#26463
On October 26 2012 05:49 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 05:29 rabidch wrote:
On October 26 2012 05:17 BurningSera wrote:
I.........dont even know what to say about this MM. So i was smurfing, yes and i feel dirty but i really enjoy doing 2bstone on my undying, so, 2 games later i am in High skill game (I have a total of 5 games on this account) and suddenly the whole team is retarded while the opponents have smoke/ward 24/7 etc. Still manage to make a long game til 50mins because I was void. But this MM...are we supposed to carry this whole team 2v5???

the point of smurfing is to lose games. otherwise you might as well get on your actual account


T_T And i thought the whole point of smurfing is to do 5bufry qop or VANGOD builds etc.


5bfury QOP and losing are not mutually exclusive. In fact, you might say one is highly conducive to the other

IMO, the point of smurfing is to lose in fun ways, so that you can win however you wish.

Edit: ROFL at firebolt. Good thing your opponents are so knowledgeable XD
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 25 2012 20:57 GMT
#26464
I received yet another key today (got one in the wave of keys last week).
I guess they've increased their servers =)
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 21:22:26
October 25 2012 21:20 GMT
#26465
On October 26 2012 05:29 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 05:17 BurningSera wrote:
I.........dont even know what to say about this MM. So i was smurfing, yes and i feel dirty but i really enjoy doing 2bstone on my undying, so, 2 games later i am in High skill game (I have a total of 5 games on this account) and suddenly the whole team is retarded while the opponents have smoke/ward 24/7 etc. Still manage to make a long game til 50mins because I was void. But this MM...are we supposed to carry this whole team 2v5???

the point of smurfing is to lose games. otherwise you might as well get on your actual account


I thought you smurfed to smash people and inflate your ego
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
October 25 2012 21:24 GMT
#26466
We've all been through the "6 game lose streak. 9 game win streak, 9 game lose streak because of my teammates" in this MMR.

*sigh* Sometimes, I just wanna quit solo queuing, but I just can't help it.
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
October 25 2012 21:55 GMT
#26467
On October 26 2012 05:57 MrCon wrote:
I received yet another key today (got one in the wave of keys last week).
I guess they've increased their servers =)


same, keep selling them for treasure keys got a strange invoker hood and cloak

and on mm, i assumed all 10 people are taken from similiar mmr and it's multiplayer. So everytime one side has a good game the other side might not be experiencing the same 'great' game as you are. Or does the mm actually 'average' out the mmr levels? If so it's stupid lol
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 25 2012 21:58 GMT
#26468
On October 26 2012 05:54 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm actually worried, I've been winning too many games on my smurf even with the most retarded builds.

I went double bfury on Lion the other day, when asked I explained it was 'to cleave the PL illusions', and the enemy bounty hunter + PL spent the next 40 minutes trying to explain to me that cleave doesn't work for ranged. I ended up winning with a score of 25/10.

I don't see the problem when BF makes your Finger of Death cleave - it seems the most obvious item choice?
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 25 2012 22:07 GMT
#26469
On October 26 2012 06:58 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 05:54 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm actually worried, I've been winning too many games on my smurf even with the most retarded builds.

I went double bfury on Lion the other day, when asked I explained it was 'to cleave the PL illusions', and the enemy bounty hunter + PL spent the next 40 minutes trying to explain to me that cleave doesn't work for ranged. I ended up winning with a score of 25/10.

I don't see the problem when BF makes your Finger of Death cleave - it seems the most obvious item choice?

It also makes your stun cleaves. That's why you don't level it up until you get your first bfury. This is actually why Lion isnt picked much in competitive, he really requires a lot of farm to be effective. blink + bfury + manaboots = 8k gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
October 25 2012 22:15 GMT
#26470
Question. Its a scrim, and you are playing Natures Prophet in the safe lane alone vs a solo WR. Your team has aggressive tri lane. Your setup is for pushing early and fast. What is best way to play? As in, best starting items, best skill build, playstyle etc? Should NP focus more on last hits or denies ? Should NP be leaving the lane alot to help gangs or stay and farm?

And to expand, what about vs BH or DS ?

(maybe this should be in Dota 2 strategy, but didn't think it warranted a new thread though.)
Whats the altitude?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 25 2012 22:18 GMT
#26471
you're overthinking it just outlane them and kill things with teleport
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
October 25 2012 22:21 GMT
#26472
I really hope they will introduce a separate "ranked" matchmaking eventually, if only for full team CM. Which could serve as platform for system matched scrims of different levels and as a base for in-game tournament platform.

I think the in-game tournament system of Bloodline Champions was pretty fun, with cosmetic rewards, titles etc. for well performing teams. Also with the quality of spectating system it would be pretty fun to root to your friends, maybe allow few first spectators to choose if they want to cast the game?

Then again, Dota matches are pretty longish so it would either require multiple mini-tournaments or just over weekend larger one with bo1? There would probably have to be separate skill tiers based on teammatchmaking ranks, a division system? Would anyone of you play in such if it was implemented?

I remember picking up teams from chat in BLC if my friends weren't online for one, but I don't know how valid it would be for Dota.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 25 2012 22:30 GMT
#26473
On October 26 2012 07:18 Dead9 wrote:
you're overthinking it just outlane them and kill things with teleport


Basically this. You don't really care about winning lane, you just want levels and whatever farm you can get while tping around the map raping face.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 25 2012 22:40 GMT
#26474
On October 26 2012 06:20 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 05:29 rabidch wrote:
On October 26 2012 05:17 BurningSera wrote:
I.........dont even know what to say about this MM. So i was smurfing, yes and i feel dirty but i really enjoy doing 2bstone on my undying, so, 2 games later i am in High skill game (I have a total of 5 games on this account) and suddenly the whole team is retarded while the opponents have smoke/ward 24/7 etc. Still manage to make a long game til 50mins because I was void. But this MM...are we supposed to carry this whole team 2v5???

the point of smurfing is to lose games. otherwise you might as well get on your actual account


I thought you smurfed to smash people and inflate your ego

well that means eventually games will get harder unless you lose, get somebody to lose for you on that account, or you get more smurf accounts.

or you win all the time.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 25 2012 23:03 GMT
#26475
Harass WR with treants.
WriterXiao8~~
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
October 25 2012 23:25 GMT
#26476
On October 26 2012 08:03 Kipsate wrote:
Harass WR with treants.


Yeah well I put 1 level of Treants and harass her with that to push her back. Then maxed TP out. So the consensus is you are not there to farm, but to gang, and its not really a problem if WR gets decent farm.
Whats the altitude?
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 25 2012 23:26 GMT
#26477
Such a fan of Razor. His midgame is decently strong and if he gets rollin' then he'll be a force lategame. So fun.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
October 25 2012 23:28 GMT
#26478
On October 26 2012 08:26 Testuser wrote:
Such a fan of Razor. His midgame is decently strong and if he gets rollin' then he'll be a force lategame. So fun.

Yeah Razor can be fun if you get your game going. But I don't really play him unless I get him in random because I'm really bad at feeling his attack animation and suck at last hitting with him.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
October 25 2012 23:32 GMT
#26479
On October 26 2012 06:24 myrmidon2537 wrote:
We've all been through the "6 game lose streak. 9 game win streak, 9 game lose streak because of my teammates" in this MMR.

*sigh* Sometimes, I just wanna quit solo queuing, but I just can't help it.


i agree. i hate solo queue and have avoided it for months, i play with at least 2 friends, just find it more fun and less rage filled. =[
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 25 2012 23:34 GMT
#26480
On October 26 2012 08:28 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 08:26 Testuser wrote:
Such a fan of Razor. His midgame is decently strong and if he gets rollin' then he'll be a force lategame. So fun.

Yeah Razor can be fun if you get your game going. But I don't really play him unless I get him in random because I'm really bad at feeling his attack animation and suck at last hitting with him.

Just tell yourself that you're storm with longer range :p
afaik projectile speed are close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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