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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 25 2012 11:14 GMT
#26381
So EG playing on SEA server? The ping man.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#26382
Jesus, stampede sure is crazy. It's basically a sukuchi without invis but with a massive nuke and a stun instead. For your entire team O.o And new drow also kinda crazy. At level seven with PT and a wraith band , no stats, you double the ranged creep damage (+25). They hit like a level one hero
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#26383
Drow is op in pubs. My friend yesterday played drow. In the laning phase he just bought 9 tangoes and nothing.
Went for straight Phase,Dominator,Manta,Daedalus/MKB. And dominated the game.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 25 2012 11:53 GMT
#26384
You can literally split push from under a fountain while being downstairs doing tea, shit so broken it ain't funny. Also 40 free agi at level 6 isn't cool at all too.
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 25 2012 12:46 GMT
#26385
Great... Drow will get picked now but will and always still be a glass cannon. She is the same thing as she was before the patch.
if you can believe you can concieve
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 25 2012 12:47 GMT
#26386
On October 25 2012 21:46 TheWarbler wrote:
Great... Drow will get picked now but will and always still be a glass cannon. She is the same thing as she was before the patch.

Yeah, that was the point of the changes, make her viable without changing the concept too much
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 25 2012 12:57 GMT
#26387
http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201210/147555.html

If you use google tranlaste he said in the first question that they will try to release dota2 as soon as possible
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 25 2012 13:01 GMT
#26388
On October 25 2012 21:47 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:46 TheWarbler wrote:
Great... Drow will get picked now but will and always still be a glass cannon. She is the same thing as she was before the patch.

Yeah, that was the point of the changes, make her viable without changing the concept too much


I think she is still bad. I'd rather have sniper anyday over her.
if you can believe you can concieve
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 25 2012 13:02 GMT
#26389
Drow is really good, you deal like 300+ damage just with hotd/treads/yasha
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 25 2012 13:02 GMT
#26390
On October 25 2012 22:01 TheWarbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:47 Qbek wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:46 TheWarbler wrote:
Great... Drow will get picked now but will and always still be a glass cannon. She is the same thing as she was before the patch.

Yeah, that was the point of the changes, make her viable without changing the concept too much


I think she is still bad. I'd rather have sniper anyday over her.

That's an opinion
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 25 2012 13:03 GMT
#26391
Ganking her consntantly early will shut her down. She's paper early and has no escape.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 25 2012 13:06 GMT
#26392
On October 25 2012 22:03 Fwizzz wrote:
Ganking her consntantly early will shut her down. She's paper early and has no escape.

She compensates by having probably the highest natural dps in the game. Drow with just PT is really scary and she is now strong enough to build a team around her
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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
October 25 2012 13:11 GMT
#26393
Maybe this is already understood and being glossed over, but it's important for Dota to have heroes like Drow and Sniper that are glass cannons with no escape. It keeps variety in the game and gives Icefrog an interesting balance challenge--how much do you have to buff a glass cannon with no escape to get people to try it in tournaments? When does it become worth it to have that glass cannon in case you can defend it long enough for it to get strong?

We shouldn't want every hero to have an escape, a slow, a nuke, a silence, or whatever combination of things. That's League of Legends. Let Dota be Dota. Not every hero needs to be competitive, and the competitive ones don't need to be viable in every circumstance.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 13:12:48
October 25 2012 13:11 GMT
#26394
On October 25 2012 13:38 FinestHour wrote:
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On October 25 2012 13:26 TheEmulator wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:13 FinestHour wrote:
Fuck my undefeated streak against bumblebee is broken.

Ahh, too bad. Was it at least a good game?


Bounty hunter got caught one too many times cuz his game was bugged and he couldn't see any of the enemy heroes which made us get raxed and teamwiped. We would have won otherwise.

https://dotabuff.com/matches/53052287

I don't agree with this statement, haha. You got demolished almost all game long except for a couple of levels where you could do stuff with your Storm Spirit from like level 8-11.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 25 2012 13:12 GMT
#26395
I think Drow's will build PT into BKB then Manta. You need the surviavbility that both items offer. You gain a escape via Manta and immunuity in BKB. Shadowblade is complete ass so don't bring that up for dissucstion as an item. Drums is also a very viable item on her.
if you can believe you can concieve
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 25 2012 13:15 GMT
#26396
If you are farming well a yasha before BKB is good coz it really is awesome on drow. Shadow blade sucks coz it has no agi, with the new aura an agi less item needs to be really great for you to get it.
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Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
October 25 2012 13:18 GMT
#26397
On October 25 2012 22:15 Qbek wrote:
If you are farming well a yasha before BKB is good coz it really is awesome on drow. Shadow blade sucks coz it has no agi, with the new aura an agi less item needs to be really great for you to get it.

It gives her the escape that she really needs. The problem with Drow is not really fighting or laning her. It's the time in between these things because she can't flashfarm, she doesn't have an escape and she's not really mobile. It's too easy to gank her and you really need to play 4 protect 1 if you want to play her as a carry.

What I could see happening here is that she'll be used in heavy push strategies with minions and generally just strong pushing/teamfighting heroes (Enigma, Undying, Batrider, Tidehunter, Venomancer, etc.)
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#26398
Daedalus and Dominator/Satanic is absolutely awesome for Drow.
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
October 25 2012 13:42 GMT
#26399
I know this might be QQ that you guys hear often but .. I recently bought dota2 pass. And im amazed by how much of bads i got in my games (ive been playing inhouse dota1). Is there way of efficiently improve my mmr or smth beacause I just can pick hard carry each game and go 1v5 untill i get decent teammates .. If i pair up with my friend we end up vs premades of 3-5 ppl.
Im pretty frustrated>.>
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 13:45:33
October 25 2012 13:44 GMT
#26400
On October 25 2012 22:12 TheWarbler wrote:
I think Drow's will build PT into BKB then Manta. You need the surviavbility that both items offer. You gain a escape via Manta and immunuity in BKB. Shadowblade is complete ass so don't bring that up for dissucstion as an item. Drums is also a very viable item on her.


Drums is a decent item on her, but not the best choice. I basically foresee Yasha into BKB-manta-HotD.

On October 25 2012 22:42 Veriol wrote:
I know this might be QQ that you guys hear often but .. I recently bought dota2 pass. And im amazed by how much of bads i got in my games (ive been playing inhouse dota1). Is there way of efficiently improve my mmr or smth beacause I just can pick hard carry each game and go 1v5 untill i get decent teammates .. If i pair up with my friend we end up vs premades of 3-5 ppl.
Im pretty frustrated>.>



If you are as good as you say you are you can win 70% of your matches at the very least. Just grind out 50 games and it will be fine.
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