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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 11:27:11
October 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#26021
On October 22 2012 20:16 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 20:07 Kipsate wrote:
On October 22 2012 20:05 Senx wrote:
On October 22 2012 20:03 Kipsate wrote:
Animations/spell cast timing are part of the game balance and the way it works. Streamlining every animation would make the game retarded. Just look at how Batrider has improved by such a significant amount by changing his turn rate and giving him a strength buff.

It also makes each hero more unique and diverse.


Its not like lol or hon has done that either, atleast in lol every animation is different, its just more responsive and crisp.

And they just dont mean the attack animations, just the way a hero responds when moving around or when using abilities etc feels slower and more delayed.

Try Kiting in LoL

Try Kiting in Dota

come back with your results.


Don't have enough experience to surely tell if its easier in dota 2, but more woods/jungle and high ground to block LoS probably helps with kiting VS having flash at level 1 and slightly crisper movement?


Since your hero actually takes time to turn around, you can't kite while running away from someone unless they are slowed. That's the main thing. It's not "slightly crisper", it's a huge diference.

Casting animations can go from 0 to around ~0.7s. It's a huge diference, getting close to a full second before casting a spell is big. The backswing can go past 2s for some heroes, but you can cancel that.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
October 22 2012 11:47 GMT
#26022
"Nick Plott @CallMeTasteless

Everyone plz tune into my League of Legends cast that starts at 9 pm KST at http://GomTV.net ! Should be fun"

W....why??
super gg
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 22 2012 11:56 GMT
#26023
AH ye so it begins here. So many tears where shed in r/starcraft yesterday(Or was it saturday can't remember)
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 22 2012 11:57 GMT
#26024
--- Nuked ---
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 22 2012 12:01 GMT
#26025
Blasphemy!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
October 22 2012 12:09 GMT
#26026
Didn't he ask Tobi to help him understand Dota2 via twitter just a week ago?
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
October 22 2012 12:10 GMT
#26027
On October 22 2012 20:57 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 20:47 cecek wrote:
"Nick Plott @CallMeTasteless

Everyone plz tune into my League of Legends cast that starts at 9 pm KST at http://GomTV.net ! Should be fun"

W....why??

He works for GOM -> GOM hosts IPL qualifier -> GOM wants english cast -> ???

Oh, well... It's a shame Koreans are into LoL that much. Nothing we can do about that, I guess..
super gg
Osteriet
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark149 Posts
October 22 2012 12:13 GMT
#26028
On October 22 2012 20:47 cecek wrote:
"Nick Plott @CallMeTasteless

Everyone plz tune into my League of Legends cast that starts at 9 pm KST at http://GomTV.net ! Should be fun"

W....why??


This is one tear-milkshake I am SO looking forward to enjoying!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 12:17:03
October 22 2012 12:15 GMT
#26029
LoL's release in Korea was pretty much in the right place at the right time to fill the gap in Korean E-Sports after the "death" of BW--which SC2 ended up being altogether inadequate to fill.

Valve pretty much missed the boat on this one. As you said, nothing we can do about it.

On October 22 2012 21:09 Talron wrote:
Didn't he ask Tobi to help him understand Dota2 via twitter just a week ago?

I don't think it's altogether implausible that he'd want to learn both games (or alternatively, he wants to learn DotA 2, but has to learn LoL in order to fulfill his obligations to GOM).
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Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
October 22 2012 12:31 GMT
#26030
So I've been sitting here for 20 minutes waiting for our opponents to kill us. So much fucking waiting.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
October 22 2012 12:45 GMT
#26031
The battle of teh MOBAS will probably be decided in China.... Everything else doesn't really matter imho. I also wouldn't worry about Dota 2, Dota 1 is around since an eternity with no lobby/money whatsoever behind it. Quality will win.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#26032
So I just converted my friends to switch Dota2 from Dota1.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 22 2012 12:55 GMT
#26033
On October 22 2012 21:53 Fwizzz wrote:
So I just converted my friends to switch Dota2 from Dota1.

Isn't that just a matter of getting the key and actually playing some games?
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
October 22 2012 13:03 GMT
#26034
On October 22 2012 21:55 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 21:53 Fwizzz wrote:
So I just converted my friends to switch Dota2 from Dota1.

Isn't that just a matter of getting the key and actually playing some games?

Not in the Philippines, I don't think.
super gg
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 13:11:37
October 22 2012 13:08 GMT
#26035
On October 22 2012 21:55 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 21:53 Fwizzz wrote:
So I just converted my friends to switch Dota2 from Dota1.

Isn't that just a matter of getting the key and actually playing some games?


Not in PH. Most people still play Dota1. But I think my friends eventually got tired of quitters.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 22 2012 14:35 GMT
#26036
More people still play Dota 1 than Dota 2 if that means anything to anyone. Dota 1 is still the main thing in China.
if you can believe you can concieve
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
October 22 2012 15:19 GMT
#26037
On October 22 2012 23:35 TheWarbler wrote:
More people still play Dota 1 than Dota 2 if that means anything to anyone. Dota 1 is still the main thing in China.


Might change now considering Valve partnered up with Perfect World to distribute Dota 2 in China. Problem was probably because people weren't getting keys in China
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 22 2012 18:26 GMT
#26038
Just played 2 games today and... people were really chilled. WTF IS HAPPENING TO THE DOTO I KNEW ?????
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 19:01:54
October 22 2012 18:52 GMT
#26039
Valve step up your advertising game SON!!!!!!

Also as someone mentioned.....everyone in /LoL subreddit is delusional. They actually think LoL and Dota take equal skill to play at high level. I quote "Just because Dota has more complex things to do, once you get used to doing them, it takes same skill as LoL".

@Qbek - Few posts above discusses Valve missing the boat on S.Korea eSports. That was a big blunder, and all it took from LoL was a few advertisements and a NaDa commercial. Perhaps it could've been split 50/50 market share if Valve was more aggressive.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 22 2012 18:54 GMT
#26040
On October 23 2012 03:52 Slardar wrote:
Valve step up your advertising game SON!!!!!!

They don't need to
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