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gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 18:44:27
October 06 2012 18:44 GMT
#23701
On October 07 2012 03:30 FinestHour wrote:
would be an awful waste of gold and exp in my opinion, did those teams actually win the game?


Having a veno with a quick ultimate lvl 1 2 and 3 is rediculously strong, most people underrate his ultimate because normally he is so lowlevel but if he's on an appropiate level or even higher than his targets it's insane. (Especially because its guaranteed 3+)
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 06 2012 18:52 GMT
#23702
New(?) Drow build from M5's Nexus: 1 point in arrows, 1 in silence, rest into stats into max aura first. A bit of utility, sacrificing damage until level 7, seems like an interesting alternative to aura-stats.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 18:58:57
October 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#23703
On October 07 2012 03:36 Kipsate wrote:
He pointed this out, I believe that while indeed Veno with farm is good an Invoker will be able to make much more use of it(or other solo mid heroes). Ideally you will want your 2nd position mid more then often either way instead of a 3rd. An 8min meka level 7 Venomancer does have its merits though.

Only because the 3-1-1 dominated DotA 2 metagame pretty much automatically implies your off-laner getting lower farm/farm priority than your solo mid.

This is not always going to be the case in a 2-1-2 game (as many pubs are).
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 06 2012 18:57 GMT
#23704
On October 07 2012 03:52 ChrisXIV wrote:
New(?) Drow build from M5's Nexus: 1 point in arrows, 1 in silence, rest into stats into max aura first. A bit of utility, sacrificing damage until level 7, seems like an interesting alternative to aura-stats.

old build really. got popular when chinese drow came onto the scene
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 19:03:58
October 06 2012 18:59 GMT
#23705
On October 07 2012 03:42 meijin wrote:
is there a way to see what your MMR is? at least some sort of way to know if you're playing with players of a higher caliber?

The only way to get an estimate of your mmr is to go to the watch tab and filter the games by your name and by the skill bracket. You can only tell if you are normal/high/very high. I read some where (not sure) that high is top 30% and very high is top 5% but I don't even think this was a reliable source.

As I said I'm not a big fan of veno mid but he is quite strong with early levels. I remember getting soloed by a quick level 11 venomancer with a blink dagger and a gale/ulti combo and thinking many other solo mids couldn't have pulled that off.
Road to 6sange
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 06 2012 19:00 GMT
#23706
I believe people used Veno as a longlane or easylane solo TI1 frequently. Which probably contributed to his 20% (It was ridiculously low) winrate. For HoN players it's incredibly normal to see a solo long lane Veno. Granted the HoN version of Veno was way different but the reasons for soloing them are the same (diving into a wall of plague wards isn't fun for anyone).
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 06 2012 19:11 GMT
#23707
On October 07 2012 03:57 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 03:52 ChrisXIV wrote:
New(?) Drow build from M5's Nexus: 1 point in arrows, 1 in silence, rest into stats into max aura first. A bit of utility, sacrificing damage until level 7, seems like an interesting alternative to aura-stats.

old build really. got popular when chinese drow came onto the scene

Had the feeling something like that was the case, hence the question mark. ^^ Why did it die out?
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 06 2012 19:12 GMT
#23708
On October 07 2012 04:11 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 03:57 rabidch wrote:
On October 07 2012 03:52 ChrisXIV wrote:
New(?) Drow build from M5's Nexus: 1 point in arrows, 1 in silence, rest into stats into max aura first. A bit of utility, sacrificing damage until level 7, seems like an interesting alternative to aura-stats.

old build really. got popular when chinese drow came onto the scene

Had the feeling something like that was the case, hence the question mark. ^^ Why did it die out?

yes, sorry if i was too direct there

it died out because drow died out
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
October 06 2012 19:18 GMT
#23709
Have anyone tried jungle doombringer after patch?
Tried it today, worked semi okish, only had centaur/ursa spawns for 10 min, but ended up with about 40-50 ck at the 10 min mark and a gank.
Pros / cons ? I think if you get armor or troll warlord to eat, you will have an easier time.
And how do people like to build him?
I tried out bfury - for regen / dmg, into A/C.
Then with the boar crit / att. dmg buff, i ended up hitting quite ok and had ok surviability also.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 06 2012 19:19 GMT
#23710
Is it just me or the new gold/exp system makes comeback much harder to happen?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
October 06 2012 19:42 GMT
#23711
On October 07 2012 04:19 NB wrote:
Is it just me or the new gold/exp system makes comeback much harder to happen?


Not enough games to say, but i've been having much more close games since the patch, almost never stomps, dunno why. Maybe people think ganks are more rewarding than they actually are and are losing way too much farm, today a game was a permagankfest from the other team that always roamed in group but in the end they didn't get enough gold and got steamrolled even with ~10 kill advantage.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 19:59:45
October 06 2012 19:58 GMT
#23712
I stumbled upon this.

I've always found it funny how SEA girls hate Dota because it takes away their boyfriends, which I've even heard from some who went to my College in London. I didn't know it was 15 million views and lets make a cheesy song bad, but it's pretty bad apparently.
Once you Goblak...
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 06 2012 20:10 GMT
#23713
On October 07 2012 04:58 teapoted wrote:
I stumbled upon this.

I've always found it funny how SEA girls hate Dota because it takes away their boyfriends, which I've even heard from some who went to my College in London. I didn't know it was 15 million views and lets make a cheesy song bad, but it's pretty bad apparently.

that made we wana shoot myself... bc i came from SEA... and the video is true.... *BANG*
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 06 2012 20:36 GMT
#23714
can anyone translate that lol
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
October 06 2012 20:40 GMT
#23715
On October 07 2012 03:44 gaymon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 03:30 FinestHour wrote:
would be an awful waste of gold and exp in my opinion, did those teams actually win the game?


Having a veno with a quick ultimate lvl 1 2 and 3 is rediculously strong, most people underrate his ultimate because normally he is so lowlevel but if he's on an appropiate level or even higher than his targets it's insane. (Especially because its guaranteed 3+)


problem with his ult is that its slow dmg. in most situations the fight is decided shortly after he gets a okish ult off. the remaining dmg is often just useful for keeping them low so they go reg instead of pushing.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
October 06 2012 20:48 GMT
#23716
On October 07 2012 04:58 teapoted wrote:
I stumbled upon this.

I've always found it funny how SEA girls hate Dota because it takes away their boyfriends, which I've even heard from some who went to my College in London. I didn't know it was 15 million views and lets make a cheesy song bad, but it's pretty bad apparently.

I'm Pinoy and I always find Filipino pop culture (soap operas, game shows, music, etc.) embarrassingly bad, but this is amazing LOL.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 06 2012 21:11 GMT
#23717
i have a great idea for the next internation, inspired by german tv

while the international is happening, we hold another live shows which reads random messages from twitter about the international
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
October 06 2012 21:25 GMT
#23718
On October 07 2012 04:18 Kanaz wrote:
Have anyone tried jungle doombringer after patch?
Tried it today, worked semi okish, only had centaur/ursa spawns for 10 min, but ended up with about 40-50 ck at the 10 min mark and a gank.
Pros / cons ? I think if you get armor or troll warlord to eat, you will have an easier time.
And how do people like to build him?
I tried out bfury - for regen / dmg, into A/C.
Then with the boar crit / att. dmg buff, i ended up hitting quite ok and had ok surviability also.


I devoured what I could depending on the camps for the first 10 min, when I got an alpha wolf my farming speed increased. I had Radiance+Phase Boots+Vanguard+Magic Wand completed in 30min. Eventually I got an Assault Cuirass and we won the game. The gpm was sick, I could even go for a Midas and that would make everything sicker.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 06 2012 21:35 GMT
#23719
t best way to jungl doom is to stack the hard camp at lvl1, several times, then eat a wildkin and kill the stack with tornado
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
October 06 2012 21:35 GMT
#23720
found this. Can someone describe what they are talking about overall? :p
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