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On October 06 2012 04:07 Heh_ wrote:
I think the moral of the story is that if you say something and get flamed for the next 20 posts, stop arguing and apologize that you were wrong. Yes, everything is situational. But if you're discussing a situation that's virtually impossible to pull off, then stop discussing it.
You should make a 2000th post blog on dota, item builds, and flaming. It'd be more interesting to read than the girl/boy blogs as of late.
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On October 06 2012 03:46 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 03:41 Kupon3ss wrote:On October 06 2012 03:33 Shikyo wrote:On October 06 2012 03:32 Kupon3ss wrote:On October 06 2012 03:31 Shikyo wrote:On October 06 2012 03:28 Kupon3ss wrote:On October 06 2012 03:24 Shikyo wrote:On October 06 2012 03:21 Kupon3ss wrote:
I did, thats why I assumed that he can't
It's as though none of you have read any of the standards for strategy suggestions here at TL
From the SC2 Forums strategy section
Rule No 1: Everything you say must be supported by evidence.
The game is evolving all the time and no one has a definite answer for every strategy related question for SC2. Thus, it is extremely important that you back up everything with sound reasoning, a replay, or a VOD, anything that supports the point you are making. Your word is not enough. A one-line response to a post without anything to support it is not acceptable. In the same token, simply posting stories of what you do without any analysis or explanation in response to another post is not acceptable. Do note that the evidence doesn't have to be my own games. If I say that AM can get naked battle fury by 11min consistantly and then show pajkatt doing that it's fine. That would be perfectly fine, what is expected, and good discussion, but instead you post like this On October 05 2012 19:11 Shikyo wrote:
Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o On October 05 2012 19:22 Shikyo wrote:On October 05 2012 19:16 Prime`Rib wrote:On October 05 2012 19:11 Shikyo wrote:
Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o Drum and Diffusal Blade made him a sick mid game hero. In my opinion if you pick a midgame hero PL is a terrible idea. On October 06 2012 01:21 Shikyo wrote:On October 06 2012 01:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Why would you go soul ring when you are farming? I wouldn't, I'd probably rush straight radiance with nothing for a 13min radiance etc. However if you do need to lane like in pubs, tranquil + soul ring lets you win it against just about anything I think Can you... point out the problems? The second one is echoing many progamers, don't see the problem. The third one's what I'd do in the situation I don't need soul ring(complete freefarm). What's wrong with those? Would the progamers not go for a 13min radi when given complete freefarm? The first one you might have a problem with, that I can see. But what's wrong with it? I think it's pretty accurate... On October 06 2012 03:21 Kupon3ss wrote:
I did, thats one of the reasons, along with the fact that he's in a skill bracket with said players to begin with, is why I assumed that he can't
It's as though none of you have read any of the standards for strategy suggestions here at TL
From the SC2 Forums strategy section
Rule No 1: Everything you say must be supported by evidence.
The game is evolving all the time and no one has a definite answer for every strategy related question for SC2. Thus, it is extremely important that you back up everything with sound reasoning, a replay, or a VOD, anything that supports the point you are making. Your word is not enough. A one-line response to a post without anything to support it is not acceptable. In the same token, simply posting stories of what you do without any analysis or explanation in response to another post is not acceptable.
Above is why many posters have issue with Shikyo This isn't the SC2 strategy forums, I know that's really strict. I wouldn't post wonky theorycraft ideas there. In fact I've never done so. Oh yeah that's for OPs also, I'm pretty sure. Especially the evidence part. What happened to the Bfury Dusa? I didn't make an OP of it in the SC2 strategy forums. It's a situational build, viable but not optimal, generally for pubs. Posted as a tongue-in-cheek because I at the time had given the impression that I like building Battle Fury on everything, so I figured it'd be nice to post about a semi-viable build on a ranged hero as self-satire. Also, it's really not a troll build, though not considered optimal. I don't get the big deal with that, would people really freak out like that if I posted about another non-optimal but still viable build that doesn't have such an inbuilt "OMG CLEAVE DOESN'T WORK ON RANGED HERO" controversy baiter? (I guess they actually do freak out but <.<) Yeah of course, though I'm not sure if this really is theorycraft at all o_O
Bfury medusa
"situational"
ok lets work out what situation.
when you want to lose. or your team is carrying you.
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I think Bfury on ranged heroes isn't so much the cleave not working but generally not giving a mix of stats they need. Damage and regen isn't as useful as say survivability and regen early on. You don't need such an expensive damage/regen item really.
Anyway I don't see point of guys making a big deal of Shikyo. Anyone who visits these boards most likely knows enough to listen to guys like Yango and kipsate anyway. Some people you just can't change no matter what.
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On October 06 2012 04:12 blahz0r wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 04:07 Heh_ wrote:
I think the moral of the story is that if you say something and get flamed for the next 20 posts, stop arguing and apologize that you were wrong. Yes, everything is situational. But if you're discussing a situation that's virtually impossible to pull off, then stop discussing it. You should make a 2000th post blog on dota, item builds, and flaming. It'd be more interesting to read than the girl/boy blogs as of late.
FUCKKKKKK I wasted it replying a dumb post on website feedback.
I'll create a 2002th post or something then. =(
Edit: After some thinking, I don't have much good ideas to write a blog about. I think I'll make a guide about techies when he (finally) gets released...
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Any news on the release date? 2012 is the year but the year is so close to ending with no new about the releasevyet.
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Just found a Sven chest. Is there another new one? DotA2wiki doesn't have it yet.
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Ive heard the aren't releasing it until they have better server stability and better servers to handle capacity. It's not because they don't think the game is ready. I might be wrong though. I think they need to make major improvements to the MM and the horrendous lag spike problem before we see a real release.
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Had a great game as Jakiro last night. Magnataur ult + my aoe combo was absolutely devastating.
In other news, Puck might be the most fun hero in the game.
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Some funny screenshots of bugged models.. Let's play guess the hero!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PRmqK.jpg)
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On October 06 2012 04:39 BadAssJ wrote:
Any news on the release date? 2012 is the year but the year is so close to ending with no new about the releasevyet.
Probably when all these criteria are filled
- Valve are happy with server coverage (more needed in SEA, China, SA server needs a rework as well I think)
- All heroes are released. (;_;)
- Tutorial system implemented
- MM fleshed out with team MM, other modes, general fixes.
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just had my first game as PL and I have to say...this guy really isn't fun to play at all. It felt pretty much like just attack-moving, while using my nuke once in a while and the doppleganger to run away if needed
maybe I should have gotten a blink dagger - god knows I had enough dps.
any suggested builds, ways to play him so that he isn't just a 1a hero?
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I'd watch but seems like the obs is afking 80% of the time
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On October 06 2012 04:53 hooahah wrote:
just had my first game as PL and I have to say...this guy really isn't fun to play at all. It felt pretty much like just attack-moving, while using my nuke once in a while and the doppleganger to run away if needed
maybe I should have gotten a blink dagger - god knows I had enough dps.
any suggested builds, ways to play him so that he isn't just a 1a hero?
Welcome to carries.
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On October 06 2012 04:53 hooahah wrote:
just had my first game as PL and I have to say...this guy really isn't fun to play at all. It felt pretty much like just attack-moving, while using my nuke once in a while and the doppleganger to run away if needed
maybe I should have gotten a blink dagger - god knows I had enough dps.
any suggested builds, ways to play him so that he isn't just a 1a hero?
I dont think a blink dagger is good on him as you can do other things to help him run down heroes or chase. He also has invisibility with passive speed increase to get in, or get out.
I suggest building a soul ring in the beginning and then treads. The soul ring allows you to spam your spear and control your lane. Then get the regular items, diffusal blade (or lifesteal), SnY, butterfly, manta, bkb, Since his agility gain is so good, you can drop the treads once you have Yasha for example, and get TP boots since they are better than Tranq boots.
Or go ethereal blade and "shotgun" enemies with your lance + blade.
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TranQ
Drums
Diffusal
Manta
gogo midgame ganking
but yeah, its the life of a carry, farming.
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On October 06 2012 04:57 Bash wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 04:53 hooahah wrote:
just had my first game as PL and I have to say...this guy really isn't fun to play at all. It felt pretty much like just attack-moving, while using my nuke once in a while and the doppleganger to run away if needed
maybe I should have gotten a blink dagger - god knows I had enough dps.
any suggested builds, ways to play him so that he isn't just a 1a hero? Welcome to carries.
wat
jugger, SF, and maybe PA and Meepo disagree
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Eblade PL is fun if a bit weak.
but once you get Eblade you can gank like crazy and then eblade manta lets you hit a point you can farm AND gank at the same time 
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On October 06 2012 04:53 hooahah wrote:
just had my first game as PL and I have to say...this guy really isn't fun to play at all. It felt pretty much like just attack-moving, while using my nuke once in a while and the doppleganger to run away if needed
maybe I should have gotten a blink dagger - god knows I had enough dps.
any suggested builds, ways to play him so that he isn't just a 1a hero? Interesting way to play as PL?
Insane Agi -> get Ethereal Blade. Also get a Dagon(5 pref). Then you can oneshot people with Ethereal Q Dagon. You probably still want Diffusal. You'll want to Nuke -> run close -> purge -> hit until purge's running out -> Ethereal -> Nuke -> Dagon.
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