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Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
October 03 2012 17:32 GMT
#23061
For those who didn't see talkdota yesterday, you need to check out the vods where syndereN and puppy discuss the patch notes.
http://www.own3d.tv/DotA/video/826179
http://www.own3d.tv/DotA/video/826227
"Yeah buddy"
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 17:33 GMT
#23062
On October 04 2012 02:32 Ramong wrote:
For those who didn't see talkdota yesterday, you need to check out the vods where syndereN and puppy discuss the patch notes.
http://www.own3d.tv/DotA/video/826179
http://www.own3d.tv/DotA/video/826227

Be warned it's 3 hours total
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CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
October 03 2012 17:56 GMT
#23063
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 03 2012 17:58 GMT
#23064
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?

There is an excellent description of this in the second post of this thread.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 03 2012 17:59 GMT
#23065
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?

It was first coined by a chap called HunteR_ that started many Dota 1 leagues. He promised great things, only to go back on his word and disappear each time. He was a really dodgy figure that people grew to distrust greatly and so no one wants to use a term he came up with.

Secondly, it barely describes Dota as a game. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena? Doesn't that describe almost every online game? Valve have written a short blurb on this but I cbf to find it.
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
October 03 2012 17:59 GMT
#23066
Nice movie Firebolt!
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 17:59 GMT
#23067
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?

Coz it can describe Quake too. Multiplayer online battle arena. The term fits most multiplayer games involving fighting in a enclosed area. It's therefore not fit for purpose and shouldn't be used
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 03 2012 18:01 GMT
#23068
On October 04 2012 01:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
So a friend of mine enjoys making movies and decided to make a montage of Invoker clips from a week's worth of games to help promote my stream. I thought it was pretty well done :D





sexy stuff, i especially like the intro, showing all the kills and then you are dead, most videos out there just cut the death out, showing how the real game usually goes.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
October 03 2012 18:01 GMT
#23069
On October 04 2012 02:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?

It was first coined by a chap called HunteR_ that started many Dota 1 leagues. He promised great things, only to go back on his word and disappear each time. He was a really dodgy figure that people grew to distrust greatly and so no one wants to use a term he came up with.

Secondly, it barely describes Dota as a game. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena? Doesn't that describe almost every online game? Valve have written a short blurb on this but I cbf to find it.

Wait, the HunteR that got busted with CP or some shit like that some years back now?
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 03 2012 18:03 GMT
#23070
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?


Is Battlefield a MOBA ? Yes.
Is CoD a MOBA ? Yes.
Is SC2 a MOBA ? Yes ( 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 ).
Is WoW a MOBA ? Yes.
Is DayZ a MOBA ? Yes.

I can go on for days...
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 03 2012 18:04 GMT
#23071
On October 04 2012 03:03 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?


Is Battlefield a MOBA ? Yes.
Is CoD a MOBA ? Yes.
Is SC2 a MOBA ? Yes ( 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 ).
Is WoW a MOBA ? Yes.
Is DayZ a MOBA ? Yes.

I can go on for days...


You can do the same thing for practically any game genre. None of them are good indicators.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 03 2012 18:05 GMT
#23072
On October 04 2012 03:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:03 BlitzerSC wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?


Is Battlefield a MOBA ? Yes.
Is CoD a MOBA ? Yes.
Is SC2 a MOBA ? Yes ( 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 ).
Is WoW a MOBA ? Yes.
Is DayZ a MOBA ? Yes.

I can go on for days...


You can do the same thing for practically any game genre. None of them are good indicators.


That's the point. MOBA is a generic term which can be used to describe every single multiplayer game that has been made.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 03 2012 18:06 GMT
#23073
On October 04 2012 03:01 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?

It was first coined by a chap called HunteR_ that started many Dota 1 leagues. He promised great things, only to go back on his word and disappear each time. He was a really dodgy figure that people grew to distrust greatly and so no one wants to use a term he came up with.

Secondly, it barely describes Dota as a game. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena? Doesn't that describe almost every online game? Valve have written a short blurb on this but I cbf to find it.

Wait, the HunteR that got busted with CP or some shit like that some years back now?

Yep, the very same.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 18:07 GMT
#23074
On October 04 2012 03:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:03 BlitzerSC wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?


Is Battlefield a MOBA ? Yes.
Is CoD a MOBA ? Yes.
Is SC2 a MOBA ? Yes ( 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 ).
Is WoW a MOBA ? Yes.
Is DayZ a MOBA ? Yes.

I can go on for days...


You can do the same thing for practically any game genre. None of them are good indicators.

RTS and FPS are a bit more specific
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:09:27
October 03 2012 18:09 GMT
#23075
On October 04 2012 03:01 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
So a friend of mine enjoys making movies and decided to make a montage of Invoker clips from a week's worth of games to help promote my stream. I thought it was pretty well done :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH-DFPphLAo



sexy stuff, i especially like the intro, showing all the kills and then you are dead, most videos out there just cut the death out, showing how the real game usually goes.

Yeah I thought the beginning was done really well. Skips the teamfight leading to that clip but whatever :D

Would appreciate if people upvoted it on Reddit. Obviously only if you feel it deserves it

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/10vtc1/invidious_a_dota_2_montage/
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
October 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#23076
On October 04 2012 03:07 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:03 BlitzerSC wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:56 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I'm genuinely curious; why do so many DotA players hate the word "MOBA"?


Is Battlefield a MOBA ? Yes.
Is CoD a MOBA ? Yes.
Is SC2 a MOBA ? Yes ( 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 ).
Is WoW a MOBA ? Yes.
Is DayZ a MOBA ? Yes.

I can go on for days...


You can do the same thing for practically any game genre. None of them are good indicators.

RTS and FPS are a bit more specific


FPS is pretty specific but RTS is actually horrible, you can use strategy on almost every game and as long as it is not turn-based.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:41:30
October 03 2012 18:36 GMT
#23077
dota type games are dota type games. Its a pretty esoteric genre. I guess when Tides of Blood and DotA were being played at the same time some people called them AoS but for so long it was only dota being played to any significant degree that it became the type set.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
October 03 2012 18:42 GMT
#23078
Steam / Dota 2 down atm for everyone?
Whats the altitude?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 03 2012 18:42 GMT
#23079
On October 04 2012 03:42 Chewits wrote:
Steam / Dota 2 down atm for everyone?

Confirmed down
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 03 2012 18:43 GMT
#23080
On October 04 2012 03:42 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:42 Chewits wrote:
Steam / Dota 2 down atm for everyone?

Confirmed down

They really need to fix those downtimes. It's pretty obvious why Dota 2 isn't free to play yet...^^
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
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